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Good job making sorcs completely useless in PvE
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO
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Now we can just kick them in any group we end up with them in as they're just a liability compared to all other classes. 
Edited by cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO on June 2, 2016 6:26PM R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
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✭Agree with OP, nuff said.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.3 -
NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭Meta sorcs suck so bad it's ridicules, all I see them doing in pvp is literally running...then dying because gap closers are far more powerful then streak and major expedition. That and their shields just go down constantly making them easy peasy targets. like seriously, it takes 2 hits to kill them. Officially a "pet" takes more hits to kill then a Sorc does in pvp lol
As for pve.... Yeah Cosmic said it. Don't bother with sorcs.Edited by NativeJoe on June 2, 2016 4:25PM650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
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Don't just do that, kick any sorc you come in contact with and let them know exactly why they're being kicked.
R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD2 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Well, having a sorcerer in your group is definitely a liability! We all know assassins don't like leaving witnesses and the brotherhood is trying to extinguish sorcerers. I hear those allowed to survive are all putting away their weapons and becoming either harvesters or bankers.2 -
sirrmattus✭✭✭✭✭So funny. Now sorcs will actually have to slot some comparable health and l2p vs just going in max magick max damageEbonheart Pact - North American Server
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭sirrmattus wrote: »So funny. Now sorcs will actually have to slot some comparable health and l2p vs just going in max magick max damage
Says the ones playing the godmode class, LOL. Play another class and L2P before you speak.R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
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✭✭My main was a sorc, and this patch broke my heart. I was a sorc since beta, through buffs and nerfs. This? What they did with Dark Brotherhood made me straight up strip the gear from her, put it in the bank, and let anyone else take it. I'm normally of the philosophy of roll with the buffs and the nerfs, been that way since I started playing MMOs, but this patch is officially the one that pushed me too far to stick to that mentality."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
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✭✭✭✭✭sirrmattus wrote: »So funny. Now sorcs will actually have to slot some comparable health and l2p vs just going in max magick max damage
Slot wut? With that awesome health passive... wait...
Or the light armor mitigation.... wait
Or the dps... wait
Or the resource management... wait...
Or the CCs... wait a sec...
Or the instant abilities.... wait...
Or the...
Wait f-it, it's bad and we all know it. Gtfo34 -
DHale✭✭✭✭✭
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I made it close will do some revising soon....
Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.1 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭ParaNostram wrote: »My main was a sorc, and this patch broke my heart. I was a sorc since beta, through buffs and nerfs. This? What they did with Dark Brotherhood made me straight up strip the gear from her, put it in the bank, and let anyone else take it. I'm normally of the philosophy of roll with the buffs and the nerfs, been that way since I started playing MMOs, but this patch is officially the one that pushed me too far to stick to that mentality.
R.I.P. Para Nostram
VR16 Bosmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
She was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Update your signature and join the clan @ParaNostram , I also mained a sorcerer since beta, many of us have. We feel your pain...Edited by Grao on June 2, 2016 4:39PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭sirrmattus wrote: »So funny. Now sorcs will actually have to slot some comparable health and l2p vs just going in max magick max damage
People say this ... yet people have been putting 64 points into either magicka or stamina on their "skillfully" played templars, DKs, and nightblades.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.33 -
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✭Joy_Division wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »So funny. Now sorcs will actually have to slot some comparable health and l2p vs just going in max magick max damage
People say this ... yet people have been putting 64 points into either magicka or stamina on their "skillfully" played templars, DKs, and nightblades.
This is the truth of it. everyone puts max points into their offensive stats regardless of class.
i don't get that argument.Invictus14 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I didn't name my sorcerer "Muscle Mage" in an obscure language just for him to wimp out at the first sign of danger.
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Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭Joy_Division wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »So funny. Now sorcs will actually have to slot some comparable health and l2p vs just going in max magick max damage
People say this ... yet people have been putting 64 points into either magicka or stamina on their "skillfully" played templars, DKs, and nightblades.
Hey @Joy_Division ^^ Hope you are doing well.
Of course you are right about that, its been ages since adding points to health was the way to go even for DPSers.0 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I didn't name my sorcerer "Muscle Mage" in an obscure language just for him to wimp out at the first sign of danger.
Sorcs can't even run away anymore, lol. They're just a "class" to send in as cannon fodder to die at the first signs of trouble. xD
Should just rename them that instead.Edited by cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO on June 2, 2016 4:52PMR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
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✭sirrmattus wrote: »So funny. Now sorcs will actually have to slot some comparable health and l2p vs just going in max magick max damage
Exactly how many points and health enchants and heavy armour pieces do you have, if I may ask Mr. Loudmouth?Sometimes, I dream about...cheese...
Dermont - v16 Pompous Altmer Sorcerer (With a very arrogant face!)
Egonieser - v16 Nord Stamina Dragonborn Wannabe
Endoly - v16 Tiny Redguard Sharpened MaceBlade
Egosalina - v16 Breton Cheesus Beam Specialist
Egowen - v16 Dunmer Whipping Expert (Riding crops eluded her)
(Yes, I had to grind all these to v16)
Akamanakh - lvl 22 Khajiit GankBlade (Inspired by Top Cat)
Targos Icewind - lvl 34 Imperial (Future) Jabplar
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I see that! So the brotherhood allowed your sorcerer to retire to be a banker and a crafter? Lucky man...
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✭sirrmattus wrote: »So funny. Now sorcs will actually have to slot some comparable health and l2p vs just going in max magick max damage
Exactly how many points and health enchants and heavy armour pieces do you have, if I may ask Mr. Loudmouth?
Protect Dermont @Egonieser , the Dark Brotherhood is hunting sorcerers and they are coming for blood.Edited by Grao on June 2, 2016 5:00PM0 -
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✭✭I think the only way your Sorcerer survives, is if the build didn't require Shields or Surge in the first place.
Just looking at the Patch Notes, my Sorcerer uses neither of those Skills, nor really any of the ones negatively affected.
I mean, I'll read over the Sorc changes again, but I think mine might be alright...
That said: I also do not PvP, nor am I anywhere close to being a top DPS character (that's what I have my Templar for...). Its easily possible that Sorcs are dead-in-the-water in those regards, but that falls well out of my realm of knowledge for the Sorcerer Class.
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✭✭✭✭✭My Sorc is NOT useless! He is a master crafter and mixes a martini with panache.."Get off my lawn!"15 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭After the last year of Sorc reign. The tears are like a sweet waterfall.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
Jcon V16 Orc DK
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✭sirrmattus wrote: »So funny. Now sorcs will actually have to slot some comparable health and l2p vs just going in max magick max damage
So I have to slot some health, cos 23k isn't enough, and then learn to play the class I've been playing since launch? Hilarious.PC | EU6 -
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✭✭✭✭I wonder how long it will take before the Scrubcerers adapt and threads like this stop appearing.Edited by Lava_Croft on June 2, 2016 5:01PM10 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »I wonder how long it will take before the Scrubcerers adapt and threads like this stop appearing.
I wonder how long it will be until scrubblades stop appearing in our threads.
And we should nerf you down to PC release state, then we can talk againEdited by cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO on June 2, 2016 5:03PMR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
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Arkvoril✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »I wonder how long it will take before the Scrubcerers adapt and threads like this stop appearing.
I wonder how long it will be until scrubblades stop appearing in our threads.
+1
This was great!NA/PC
Arkvoril
Level 50 Altmer Sorcerer
A Vampire with a Werewolf Companion.
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Kungfu✭✭✭✭I find it kinda funny - all these rants.
*MY* sorc didn't break. Unless everyone here is talking pve...
I played my sorc in Cyrodiil for 2 hours last night and had a blast. Some of you AD fed me quite a few AP at Sej, actually.
I think maybe the problem is not that sorcs are "broken" so much as your preferred, shield-dependant builds are LESS EFFECTIVE. Harness magicka is the only shield I have on either bar now and even then, it's generally a waste of time. Magicka builds are weaker overall now, I do think. But I was STILL able to land some combos that other classes just can't time.
So sorcs aren't gods of the field anymore. But they are far from broken. For a patch that's been out for what? 48 hours --ish, it certainly shows a lack of effort to test previously "unconventional" builds.
I bet anyone a dollar that sorcs will be right back up in the upper damage dealers as soon as people figure out how to land combos quickly.Edited by Kungfu on June 2, 2016 5:12PM13 -
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Stuck with Magicka Melee from nearly the start until now, will stick with it, whether it sucks or not.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »I wonder how long it will take before the Scrubcerers adapt and threads like this stop appearing.
I wonder how long it will be until scrubblades stop appearing in our threads.
And we should nerf you down to PC release state, then we can talk again
Time to adapt, feeble Dunmer. Your bitter tears will at most wash the ash from your face.
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✭Lava_Croft wrote: »I wonder how long it will take before the Scrubcerers adapt and threads like this stop appearing.
Hopefully we will outlast trolls like you.rotaugen454 wrote: »My Sorc is NOT useless! He is a master crafter and mixes a martini with panache..
LOL, alright, you are one of the lucky ones that survive the Dark Brotherhood and retired to be crafters, bankers, mixologists...? That last one is a new one XDAfter the last year of Sorc reign. The tears are like a sweet waterfall.
Exactly what planet are you inhabiting that sorcerers have been so good for the past year? I want to move there...1