2017 If consoles upgrade...

idk · May 2016

bedlom wrote: »

But it would be a discussion about nothing since it's pure speculation.

So discussion, ESO will ensure the game works on the new console. Beyond that there is no reason for them to make changes. Zos has no vested interest in the sales of a new console so no reason to spend $$$ upgrading to serve theIr purpose.

[edited to remove quote]

NewBlacksmurf · May 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

bedlom wrote: »

Tbh the only thing I was expecting is a discussion but I know that can be asking too much of some forum users.

But it would be a discussion about nothing since it's pure speculation.

So discussion, ESO will ensure the game works on the new console. Beyond that there is no reason for them to make changes. Zos has no vested interest in the sales of a new console so no reason to spend $$$ upgrading to serve theIr purpose.

As much as I'd like to have graphics settings, you're pretty much correct

GreenhaloX · May 2016

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

Dahkoht · May 2016

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

Sugaroverdose · May 2016

bedlom wrote: »

Will ESO upgrade alongside them? And would you make the purchase?
If rumors are true then PS4 and Xbox One are getting slimmer (but more importantly) more powerful versions coming in 2017.
If this is true then can we expect ESO to make the purchase worthwhile? Because if ESO is the same I won't bother, I'll just wait till ESO does evolve with the hardware.
But remember these are just rumors ATM.

If rumors are true console upgrade will be seamless from architecture and API perspective, so devs will need to update sdk and make different settings set, which shouldn't require a lot of work.

Septimus_Magna · May 2016

I first wanted to play ESO on PS4 but I couldnt wait for the console release so I bought a modest gaming PC.

The benefit of a PC is that you can upgrade it to improve the performance. Now I have a 4,0GHz CPU, GTX970 GPU, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD and the game feels totally different than it did back in the beta (January 2014).

I would personally not like this game without add-ons, just simple stuff like Wykkyd outfitter for swapping gear/skills, AUI for dmg statistics and Srendarr for buff tracking.

The option to customize settings beyond the normal capabilities is also very useful, this allows me to fight in large scale pvp battles with a bearable frame rate. With the basic settings my fps would often drops to 1-2 which usually killed me.

The ability to send someone a quick text message is also nice, cant imaging hearing everyone in zone screaming WTS this and that.

Gidorick · May 2016

Thanks @Woeler & @NewBlacksmurf ... If ZOS does offer any upgrades I really don't think it'll be in the form of graphical settings. Sony is going to require new games to have a "Neo-Mode" so its more like a switch between two settings, not a myriad of settings a player can tweak.

I would assume the following:

Higher Resolution is not likely (already at 1080p)
Higher Frame Rates is likely
Higher Resolution textures is very likely (See DCUO PS3 vs PS4)
Higher draw distance is possible

Sallington · May 2016

bedlom wrote: »

Will ESO upgrade alongside them? And would you make the purchase?
If rumors are true then PS4 and Xbox One are getting slimmer (but more importantly) more powerful versions coming in 2017.
If this is true then can we expect ESO to make the purchase worthwhile? Because if ESO is the same I won't bother, I'll just wait till ESO does evolve with the hardware.
But remember these are just rumors ATM.

Sallington · May 2016

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Enjoy your mods, macro and bots. I will stick with a controller and a fair playing field in pvp.
Lets see how happy you are when ps4k forces ZOS to make it run in 4k before pc get it!

Cheers!

LOL I'm running it in 4k right now on my GPU I bought almost 2 years ago.

ZOS_CoriJ · May 2016

Guys, we understand that discussing any particular platform tends to lead to general platform discussion but please keep discussion civil. Most of the platform vs platform debate is already out of context with the subject of this topic, and arguments have already lead to a fair amount of posts being removed (or removed in relation).
We would like to keep this chat open so let's get this chat back on track.

bedlom · May 2016

Sallington wrote: »

bedlom wrote: »

Will ESO upgrade alongside them? And would you make the purchase?
If rumors are true then PS4 and Xbox One are getting slimmer (but more importantly) more powerful versions coming in 2017.
If this is true then can we expect ESO to make the purchase worthwhile? Because if ESO is the same I won't bother, I'll just wait till ESO does evolve with the hardware.
But remember these are just rumors ATM.

Pathetic!
Especially since this WILL happen at some point soon enough.

Conquistador · May 2016

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Sorry man, I feel your pain, and I get your doubts, but it was too good to pass...

Sorry, I played on a good rig for 8 months before switching to PS4. Won't ever go back. Plug n' play. You can keep yer masta race.

...what? lmfao.

Guppet · May 2016

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Sorry man, I feel your pain, and I get your doubts, but it was too good to pass...

Sorry, I played on a good rig for 8 months before switching to PS4. Won't ever go back. Plug n' play. You can keep yer masta race.

At least us PC players don't need to put disks into play and accidently risk scratching them.....

Gidorick wrote: »

Is Elder Scrolls Online on console significantly different than on PC? I've never done a side-by-side comparison of them so I don't know.

What could be improved with more powerful consoles? The only three things I can think of are faster loading times, higher resolution textures, and a better frame rate.

I can see all those coming to pass.

Graphically much better on PC. No add ons on console, so that's good or bad depending on if you like using them. If you don't use them on PC, your at a disadvantage, to those who do.

I played a year on PC before console release, for me it feels better on console. Much prefer a game pad for this game (would not work do well for less action orientsted MMO's though). Yes you can use s game pad on PC too.

For me it's the pick up and play nature of console, playing on my big tv, sat on my huge sofa.

Can you attach a PC to your tv, yes. If you have kids is that likely, no. Monopolising the PC and the TV? Not really a great idea.

The only thing I miss from PC is typed chat, but that's coming later.

The game does feel like it was developed for consoles. It was a constant joke before consoles launched that PC was the beta test for consoles. Sad thing is, it was actually not a joke.

NateAssassin · May 2016

Console peasant problems.

danno8 · May 2016

bedlom wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Sorry man, I feel your pain, and I get your doubts, but it was too good to pass...

Sorry, I played on a good rig for 8 months before switching to PS4. Won't ever go back. Plug n' play. You can keep yer masta race.

Well said : )

AFAIK the process for playing the game is the same on PC as it is on consoles.

1. Turn on machine.
2. Click the ESO icon.

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2016

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

danno8 · May 2016

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

I think you might be surprised at the resolution in that picture. Hint: It's not 1080p, or even 1440p.

Guppet · May 2016

danno8 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

I think you might be surprised at the resolution in that picture. Hint: It's not 1080p, or even 1440p.

Resolution beyond 1080 is mostly wasted anyway, ever watch game of thrones and think this needs to be higher resolution?. Even at 1080, PC does give better graphics. But beyond 1080, it's just a pointless p1551ng contest. It's like saying my car goes 180 miles an hour, that's great but how often is that in any way useful? That's right never and you pay through the nose for it.

GreenhaloX · May 2016

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

Agree with you, @Korah_Eaglecry, but nicely put together, @Dahkoht, if you did that. That dividing line between screens and being too close to those big screens would get to me, though. Nicely done, though. Good concept on the curve. I'm definitely not knocking or bashing on PC gamers. I'm just a console guy. Everybody has their preferences and choices. I'm thinking it would be awesome as well to play ESO on a big curve screen ultra 4D TV, especially those 80 something inches out right now. Plus, laptop have that option to plug the HDMI cable to the TV.

GreenhaloX · May 2016

ZOS_CoriJ wrote: »

Guys, we understand that discussing any particular platform tends to lead to general platform discussion but please keep discussion civil. Most of the platform vs platform debate is already out of context with the subject of this topic, and arguments have already lead to a fair amount of posts being removed (or removed in relation).
We would like to keep this chat open so let's get this chat back on track.

Agreed!

danno8 · May 2016

Guppet wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

I think you might be surprised at the resolution in that picture. Hint: It's not 1080p, or even 1440p.

Resolution beyond 1080 is mostly wasted anyway, ever watch game of thrones and think this needs to be higher resolution?. Even at 1080, PC does give better graphics. But beyond 1080, it's just a pointless p1551ng contest. It's like saying my car goes 180 miles an hour, that's great but how often is that in any way useful? That's right never and you pay through the nose for it.

Depends on your screen size. Does 2560x1440 really make sense on my Samsung Galaxy s6 5 inch screen? Not really, and I wish I could lower that to save battery power TBH.

But does 4k resolution look better than 1080p on a 60 inch screen? Absolutely it does. The bigger the screen the more lines of resolution you want. 1080p may look good on a 20 inch monitor, but take that same resolution and spread it out over 60 inches and it looks like mud.

For the record, I never thought there was any issue with my old tube TV back in the 90's watching TV at 640x320 4:3 ratio. "Who cares about HD?" I thought. Yah...just try to go back. I can barely stand looking at the standard definition channels included with my cable.

Guppet · May 2016

danno8 wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

I think you might be surprised at the resolution in that picture. Hint: It's not 1080p, or even 1440p.

Resolution beyond 1080 is mostly wasted anyway, ever watch game of thrones and think this needs to be higher resolution?. Even at 1080, PC does give better graphics. But beyond 1080, it's just a pointless p1551ng contest. It's like saying my car goes 180 miles an hour, that's great but how often is that in any way useful? That's right never and you pay through the nose for it.

Depends on your screen size. Does 2560x1440 really make sense on my Samsung Galaxy s6 5 inch screen? Not really, and I wish I could lower that to save battery power TBH.

But does 4k resolution look better than 1080p on a 60 inch screen? Absolutely it does. The bigger the screen the more lines of resolution you want. 1080p may look good on a 20 inch monitor, but take that same resolution and spread it out over 60 inches and it looks like mud.

For the record, I never thought there was any issue with my old tube TV back in the 90's watching TV at 640x320 4:3 ratio. "Who cares about HD?" I thought. Yah...just try to go back. I can barely stand looking at the standard definition channels included with my cable.

Totally agree, it makes a difference oh huge tellies. But it's PC people saying it matters on thier screens. You need to go much bigger than a standard monitor for it to be worth while, it needs to be so big that it's not really practical on anything other than a living room tv.

That picture of loads of monitors hooked up is so impractical it's pointless. It would actually detract from my viewing pleasure, with all those lines and sat on top of it.

Ser Lobo · May 2016

If a hypothetical upgraded Xbox offers more video ram, full support on an internal solid state hard drive (with more than 1tb of space), and full access to the other CPUs, these will offer quality of life improvements for all games without developers having to recode.

We're talking faster load times, longer draw distances, and quicker access to internal processes (i.e. faster switching and cleaner multitasking).

Whether ZOS releases an update that allows players on Xbox One to get better performance (which should really be as simple as increasing draw distances and tweaking what is essentially the PC .ini file), that is up to them. Seems like an easy no brainer to me, since all the game would have to do extra is verify which version of the console you have before turning up those easy options.

About the PC vs Console debate? I've owned both. After switching to consoles, I quickly turned off area voice chat and have never doubted a minute. I have plenty of people to play with, plenty of great conversations, and all the fundamental portions of the game work fine. I crash once in a blue moon, and many times that's been because live went down, not ESO.

I don't have even a portion of the issues on console I had on PC, and do half the work to get it to play, all from the comfort of my living room. If I wanted to get back into 'hardcore, professional' no life gaming, I would probably build me a new PC. But as a father, working adult and loving husband, I just don't have the want to chain myself back to the desk again.

Dahkoht · May 2016

Guppet wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

I think you might be surprised at the resolution in that picture. Hint: It's not 1080p, or even 1440p.

Resolution beyond 1080 is mostly wasted anyway, ever watch game of thrones and think this needs to be higher resolution?. Even at 1080, PC does give better graphics. But beyond 1080, it's just a pointless p1551ng contest. It's like saying my car goes 180 miles an hour, that's great but how often is that in any way useful? That's right never and you pay through the nose for it.

Yes yes , I expect some to say that. Just as some said 30fps is "more cinematic".

Some people can't tell the difference between wine out of a box at 10 dollars vs a reasonable tasting 100 dollar bottle.

Others though , appreciate quality.

You can go something like this , with a 48" 4k main screen flanked by two 40" 4k screens ,

Or you can go 65" Oled like this.

Currently running two 32" 4k BenQ 3201's(one rig for each one) with a 48" Samsung 4k for side monitor and Blu-Ray , Bloodborne on Potato use. Works well enough for the moment , waiting for the next gen OLED 65" like the above (never buy the first revision).

I assure you , whether it's my 32" 4K or my 48" 4k , right now 60 fps solid (never dips with Titan X SLI ) at 4k is night and day difference than 1080p 30fps console ESO (and neither potato's hold 30 fps even , so dips into the low 20's frequently.)

Again , 1080p might be good enough for you and some , but others don't like box wine.

Mettaricana · May 2016

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Sorry man, I feel your pain, and I get your doubts, but it was too good to pass...

Sorry, I played on a good rig for 8 months before switching to PS4. Won't ever go back. Plug n' play. You can keep yer masta race.

Left for ps4 after addons or gfx card or something was always wrong or crashing atleast on ps4 if I'm having the issue chances are someone else is also and it will have to be fixed...

Guppet · May 2016

Dahkoht wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

I think you might be surprised at the resolution in that picture. Hint: It's not 1080p, or even 1440p.

Resolution beyond 1080 is mostly wasted anyway, ever watch game of thrones and think this needs to be higher resolution?. Even at 1080, PC does give better graphics. But beyond 1080, it's just a pointless p1551ng contest. It's like saying my car goes 180 miles an hour, that's great but how often is that in any way useful? That's right never and you pay through the nose for it.

Yes yes , I expect some to say that. Just as some said 30fps is "more cinematic".

Some people can't tell the difference between wine out of a box at 10 dollars vs a reasonable tasting 100 dollar bottle.

Others though , appreciate quality.

You can go something like this , with a 48" 4k main screen flanked by two 40" 4k screens ,

Or you can go 65" Oled like this.

Currently running two 32" 4k BenQ 3201's(one rig for each one) with a 48" Samsung 4k for side monitor and Blu-Ray , Bloodborne on Potato use. Works well enough for the moment , waiting for the next gen OLED 65" like the above (never buy the first revision).

I assure you , whether it's my 32" 4K or my 48" 4k , right now 60 fps solid (never dips with Titan X SLI ) at 4k is night and day difference than 1080p 30fps console ESO (and neither potato's hold 30 fps even , so dips into the low 20's frequently.)

Again , 1080p might be good enough for you and some , but others don't like box wine.

Want to be a bit more patronising? Because I'm happy with 1080 does not mean I'd drink box wine. I spend hundreds on wine (well my work does) no boxes. I refuse to spend the crazy amount that the set ups you suggest would cost.

I have more important things in my life to spend that money on. You may not, that does not make my likes simple in the way you suggest!

Dahkoht · May 2016

Guppet wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

I think you might be surprised at the resolution in that picture. Hint: It's not 1080p, or even 1440p.

Resolution beyond 1080 is mostly wasted anyway, ever watch game of thrones and think this needs to be higher resolution?. Even at 1080, PC does give better graphics. But beyond 1080, it's just a pointless p1551ng contest. It's like saying my car goes 180 miles an hour, that's great but how often is that in any way useful? That's right never and you pay through the nose for it.

Yes yes , I expect some to say that. Just as some said 30fps is "more cinematic".

Some people can't tell the difference between wine out of a box at 10 dollars vs a reasonable tasting 100 dollar bottle.

Others though , appreciate quality.

You can go something like this , with a 48" 4k main screen flanked by two 40" 4k screens ,

Or you can go 65" Oled like this.

Currently running two 32" 4k BenQ 3201's(one rig for each one) with a 48" Samsung 4k for side monitor and Blu-Ray , Bloodborne on Potato use. Works well enough for the moment , waiting for the next gen OLED 65" like the above (never buy the first revision).

I assure you , whether it's my 32" 4K or my 48" 4k , right now 60 fps solid (never dips with Titan X SLI ) at 4k is night and day difference than 1080p 30fps console ESO (and neither potato's hold 30 fps even , so dips into the low 20's frequently.)

Again , 1080p might be good enough for you and some , but others don't like box wine.

Want to be a bit more patronising? Because I'm happy with 1080 does not mean I'd drink box wine. I spend hundreds on wine (well my work does) no boxes. I refuse to spend the crazy amount that the set ups you suggest would cost.

I have more important things in my life to spend that money on. You may not, that does not make my likes simple in the way you suggest!

You were the one that said there was no reason , pointless and so on to go beyond 1080p.

I was showing why I thought it was not pointless.

Theres's a huge difference between 1080p 30fps and 4k 60fps to me and others.

Guppet · May 2016

Dahkoht wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

PS4 is quite good now.. side from the non-back compatibility function. I wonder what kind of upgrades the next PS console would have. If it does come out with a new console, it may be a couple years before I upgrade to it. Took me a couple years to upgrade to PS4 from PS3.

I'm not a PC gamer guy.. always been console and better to play on a big screen TV than on a 15-17 inch PC screen. Also using console controller is much easier for me. I believe I finally upgraded to PS4 in anticipation for ESO and the soon-to-be released Dues Ex: Mankind Divided, but also to be able to play AC: Unity.

/pats poor console playeron the head , of course it's "easier" for you

[snip]

[edited for flaming]

You do understand Console players get that view WITHOUT having to plug numerous screens together right?

I think you might be surprised at the resolution in that picture. Hint: It's not 1080p, or even 1440p.

Resolution beyond 1080 is mostly wasted anyway, ever watch game of thrones and think this needs to be higher resolution?. Even at 1080, PC does give better graphics. But beyond 1080, it's just a pointless p1551ng contest. It's like saying my car goes 180 miles an hour, that's great but how often is that in any way useful? That's right never and you pay through the nose for it.

Yes yes , I expect some to say that. Just as some said 30fps is "more cinematic".

Some people can't tell the difference between wine out of a box at 10 dollars vs a reasonable tasting 100 dollar bottle.

Others though , appreciate quality.

You can go something like this , with a 48" 4k main screen flanked by two 40" 4k screens ,

Or you can go 65" Oled like this.

Currently running two 32" 4k BenQ 3201's(one rig for each one) with a 48" Samsung 4k for side monitor and Blu-Ray , Bloodborne on Potato use. Works well enough for the moment , waiting for the next gen OLED 65" like the above (never buy the first revision).

I assure you , whether it's my 32" 4K or my 48" 4k , right now 60 fps solid (never dips with Titan X SLI ) at 4k is night and day difference than 1080p 30fps console ESO (and neither potato's hold 30 fps even , so dips into the low 20's frequently.)

Again , 1080p might be good enough for you and some , but others don't like box wine.

Want to be a bit more patronising? Because I'm happy with 1080 does not mean I'd drink box wine. I spend hundreds on wine (well my work does) no boxes. I refuse to spend the crazy amount that the set ups you suggest would cost.

I have more important things in my life to spend that money on. You may not, that does not make my likes simple in the way you suggest!

You were the one that said there was no reason , pointless and so on to go beyond 1080p.

I was showing why I thought it was not pointless.

Theres's a huge difference between 1080p 30fps and 4k 60fps to me and others.

That would have been fine. But it's the box wine comparison. It was totally uncalled for. Implying because others can be happy with something they lack class. It's inflammatory no two ways about it.

KingYogi415 · May 2016

@Dahkoht

Now that the 1070 came out was it worth the thousands of extra you spent to be able to run 4k 1 year early?

Dahkoht · May 2016

KingYogi415 wrote: »

@Dahkoht

Now that the 1070 came out was it worth the thousands of extra you spent to be able to run 4k 1 year early?

To be able to play , (and still play ) all games at 4k for an entire year at 60 fps ?

Absolutely,

And neither the 1070 or 1080 competes with TitanX SLI , you have to have two of them still to do 4k with no dips at 60 fps.

Once the 1080 Ti or 1080 Titan versions come out I'll buy two of them , and give this rig to my son. His current original Titan rig I passed down will go to his little sister , and then next year we will repeat again.

I enjoy life , and so do they.

I could have ran a potato machine for a year , but instead go to enjoy 4k games for a year.

Everything is relative , could I have done that in my early 20's ? No.

But I can now , so why should't I ?