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The CXP given at DB release is unfair
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Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
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iam117✭✭✭no the problem is its not the closer i get to v16. im already v16 i grind every day but right now it costs me 240,000 xp per CP at 270 cp so for me to get to like 400 its around 40 million xp. theres only so much grinding i can do before DB releases if i dont wanna get sick of this game bro. ive already been going hard since cake week so i dont wanna push it with the grinding i have time to do some forum browsing once or twice a day lol i cant just sit grinding the whole time
understood, since your at v16 then you will get the same flat 40 cp that everyone at that level gets, the way they implemented the cp bonus is very simple, as it should be. they are not basing it off of how many cp you have, or how much exp you need to get per cp, but what VR level your highest toon is, so regardless of how many cp anyone has they will get a flat rate of 2.5 per VR level. it may not seem fair when you look at it from the cp/exp side, but it was never designed to be based on that.<Liv3mind><PC/NA - Legion Of The Bloodworks>Snowflake Patrol1 -
MaddPowered✭✭✭✭✭You are all wrong. You do not get 40 CP per character. You can only get bonus CP once you log into your HIGHEST character. And it is not 40 off the bat, it is 2.5 CP per champion level you have. If you are vr16, you will get 40. Where as if you are veteran 4 you will get 10 CP.World's First Planesbreaker
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vAA - 4D (PC NA) - 154,068 - 8:31 Greymoor
vSO - 4D (PC NA) - 180,238 - 11:28 Greymoor
vHRC - 4D (PC NA) - 163,258 - 8:28 Greymoor
vMOL - Calamity (PC NA) - 174,680 - 9:42 Stonethorn
vHOF - 4D (PC NA) - 232,362 - 14:11 Greymoor
vAS - 4D (PC NA) - 117,014 - 2:41 Stonethorn
vCR - Calamity (PC NA) - 136,091 - 3:45 Stonethorn
vSS - 4D (PC NA) - 255,552 - 21:34 Greymoor
vKA - 4D (PC NA) - 247,292 - 16:19 Greymoor
vRG - Calamity (PC NA) - 301,438 - 24:21 Blackwood0 -
iam117✭✭✭MaddPowered wrote: »You are all wrong. You do not get 40 CP per character. You can only get bonus CP once you log into your HIGHEST character. And it is not 40 off the bat, it is 2.5 CP per champion level you have. If you are vr16, you will get 40. Where as if you are veteran 4 you will get 10 CP.
i dont remember anyone saying you got it for all toons, simply your highest vr toon will be awarded 2.5 cp per vr level. so no we are not all wrong<Liv3mind><PC/NA - Legion Of The Bloodworks>Snowflake Patrol0 -
zFib✭✭✭no the problem is its not the closer i get to v16. im already v16 i grind every day but right now it costs me 240,000 xp per CP at 270 cp so for me to get to like 400 its around 40 million xp. theres only so much grinding i can do before DB releases if i dont wanna get sick of this game bro. ive already been going hard since cake week so i dont wanna push it with the grinding i have time to do some forum browsing once or twice a day lol i cant just sit grinding the whole time
understood, since your at v16 then you will get the same flat 40 cp that everyone at that level gets, the way they implemented the cp bonus is very simple, as it should be. they are not basing it off of how many cp you have, or how much exp you need to get per cp, but what VR level your highest toon is, so regardless of how many cp anyone has they will get a flat rate of 2.5 per VR level. it may not seem fair when you look at it from the cp/exp side, but it was never designed to be based on that.
lol i know how it works man. and no it doesnt seem unfair. it is unfair lol. some people get 40 million worth of CXP in CP and some get 10 million worth of CXP in CP. its not the end of the world i still love the game and will be playing everyday i was just pointing something out.1 -
zFib✭✭✭MaddPowered wrote: »You are all wrong. You do not get 40 CP per character. You can only get bonus CP once you log into your HIGHEST character. And it is not 40 off the bat, it is 2.5 CP per champion level you have. If you are vr16, you will get 40. Where as if you are veteran 4 you will get 10 CP.
no one said anywhere you get it per character. youre wrong.1 -
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Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you1 -
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Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you
edit: and no obviously they shouldnt remove the catch up mechanic youre joining the train of people saying pointless things.Edited by zFib on May 25, 2016 11:41PM1 -
zFib✭✭✭PurifedBladez wrote: »It's not even that much cp. Why is this a big deal?
a 30 million difference in CXP is a huge deal thats almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. go back and read the thread
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Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you
See, you see it as exp points...which is meaningless in this context. There will be no gap. Everyone with a v16 will get 40 CP, there will be no gap, if I was 100 CP ahead of you, I'll still be 100 CP ahead of you. It's fair.
It is 100% NOT fair that you get, say, 100 CP from a flat value, and I get 40 or whatever. Because it's not equal. Fair is equal, and that's not equal -- and your twisted little view of things is not fair, equal, or anything of that ilk no matter how many times you go crying to the forums that people have more CP than you.Edited by Valrien on May 25, 2016 11:49PMValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
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Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you
It is fair. More time put in equals more rewards. Bottom line. But realistically, this was the simplest way got zos to do it. Even if they thought about it your way, it would take too much time and effort to do it that way.0 -
MaddPowered✭✭✭✭✭MaddPowered wrote: »You are all wrong. You do not get 40 CP per character. You can only get bonus CP once you log into your HIGHEST character. And it is not 40 off the bat, it is 2.5 CP per champion level you have. If you are vr16, you will get 40. Where as if you are veteran 4 you will get 10 CP.
i dont remember anyone saying you got it for all toons, simply your highest vr toon will be awarded 2.5 cp per vr level. so no we are not all wrong
Where did i say you get it for all toons? I said you only get the bonus once. And that you get 2.5 cp per veteran rank your highest character has.World's First Planesbreaker
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World's First Dawnbringer
World's Third Godslayer
World's Second Immortal Redeemer
World's Third Gryphon Heart
Top scores :
vAA - 4D (PC NA) - 154,068 - 8:31 Greymoor
vSO - 4D (PC NA) - 180,238 - 11:28 Greymoor
vHRC - 4D (PC NA) - 163,258 - 8:28 Greymoor
vMOL - Calamity (PC NA) - 174,680 - 9:42 Stonethorn
vHOF - 4D (PC NA) - 232,362 - 14:11 Greymoor
vAS - 4D (PC NA) - 117,014 - 2:41 Stonethorn
vCR - Calamity (PC NA) - 136,091 - 3:45 Stonethorn
vSS - 4D (PC NA) - 255,552 - 21:34 Greymoor
vKA - 4D (PC NA) - 247,292 - 16:19 Greymoor
vRG - Calamity (PC NA) - 301,438 - 24:21 Blackwood0 -
iam117✭✭✭MaddPowered wrote: »MaddPowered wrote: »You are all wrong. You do not get 40 CP per character. You can only get bonus CP once you log into your HIGHEST character. And it is not 40 off the bat, it is 2.5 CP per champion level you have. If you are vr16, you will get 40. Where as if you are veteran 4 you will get 10 CP.
i dont remember anyone saying you got it for all toons, simply your highest vr toon will be awarded 2.5 cp per vr level. so no we are not all wrong
Where did i say you get it for all toons? I said you only get the bonus once. And that you get 2.5 cp per veteran rank your highest character has.
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MaddPowered wrote: »MaddPowered wrote: »You are all wrong. You do not get 40 CP per character. You can only get bonus CP once you log into your HIGHEST character. And it is not 40 off the bat, it is 2.5 CP per champion level you have. If you are vr16, you will get 40. Where as if you are veteran 4 you will get 10 CP.
i dont remember anyone saying you got it for all toons, simply your highest vr toon will be awarded 2.5 cp per vr level. so no we are not all wrong
Where did i say you get it for all toons? I said you only get the bonus once. And that you get 2.5 cp per veteran rank your highest character has.
He's simply saying that your statement saying we are all false is false because we never said it was for all characters in the first place
Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you
See, you see it as exp points...which is meaningless in this context. There will be no gap. Everyone with a v16 will get 40 CP, there will be no gap, if I was 100 CP ahead of you, I'll still be 100 CP ahead of you. It's fair.
It is 100% NOT fair that you get, say, 100 CP from a flat value, and I get 40 or whatever. Because it's not equal. Fair is equal, and that's not equal -- and your twisted little view of things is not fair, equal, or anything of that ilk no matter how many times you go crying to the forums that people have more CP than you.
ok 1. i think you have serious comprehension issues bud. i havent complained once about people having more cp than me. youre pulling stuff out of nowhere which just shows how ignorant that comment is. im 100% fine with people having more cp than me just not fine with people who have more cp to get an even bigger advantage at DB release for the future of the game.
2. and the CXP points are NOT meaningless thats your twisted way of thinking because you just simply cant comprehend the math i guess. Do you realize that each cp costs more and more the more you get? you having 600 cp and getting 40 cp means ALOT more than someone with say 160 cp and a V16 getting 40 cp. He could get those 40 cp in a day but once hes at 600 cp like you, hes gonna have to work his ass off for those 40 cp you got which had a bonus of 30 MILLION CXP. youre not thinking about the future because its your twisted way of thinking about things. youre just thinking about the DAY that db released nothing else. youre just considering one day of this game not the long term future for thousands of players who have lower cp than you and are gonna have to work there asses off to get that 30 million CXP that was just GIVEN to the people who are ALREADY at an advantage
i love this game i know ZOS wont change anything im not expecting them to change anything with the 40 cp obviously thats not why im making this post. theres way more things they need to worry about like lag and balance and stuff and i would rather see other things fixed first like MAG DK
but i just wanted to point this out because i was thinking about it one day so i made this forum post Edited by zFib on May 26, 2016 12:06AM1 -
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Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you
See, you see it as exp points...which is meaningless in this context. There will be no gap. Everyone with a v16 will get 40 CP, there will be no gap, if I was 100 CP ahead of you, I'll still be 100 CP ahead of you. It's fair.
It is 100% NOT fair that you get, say, 100 CP from a flat value, and I get 40 or whatever. Because it's not equal. Fair is equal, and that's not equal -- and your twisted little view of things is not fair, equal, or anything of that ilk no matter how many times you go crying to the forums that people have more CP than you.
ok 1. i think you have serious comprehension issues bud. i havent complained once about people having more cp than me. youre pulling stuff out of nowhere which just shows how ignorant that comment is. im 100% fine with people having more cp than me just not fine with people who have more cp to get an even bigger advantage at DB release for the future of the game.
2. and the CXP points are NOT meaningless thats your twisted way of thinking because you just simply cant comprehend the math i guess. Do you realize that each cp costs more and more the more you get? you having 600 cp and getting 40 cp means ALOT more than someone with say 160 cp and a V16 getting 40 cp. He could get those 40 cp in a day but once hes at 600 cp like you, hes gonna have to work his ass off for those 40 cp you got which had a bonus of 30 MILLION CXP. youre not thinking about the future because its your twisted way of thinking about things. youre just thinking about the DAY that db released nothing else. youre just considering one day of this game not the long term future for thousands of players who have lower cp than you and are gonna have to work there asses off to get that 30 million CXP that was just GIVEN to the people who are ALREADY at an advantage
Your point? Someone has to work their ass off to get points they can't use? Because after 501 you can't do anything with them. By the time the cap is raised the equation they use to calculate the curve will change the curve to where they have to work less to gain the CP. So if someone's working their ass off to get PAST 501 then they're idiots. At that point they should be passively gaining them not actively, simply due to the fact that they should just wait for the curve to change before they go grinding to the next cap. If I have 501 CP and get bumped to 541, then that 40 is useless. If someone hits 501 right as the cap changes, then that 40 CP will be effectively less EXP to require than what the net gain from my free 40 was.
TL;DR, people going past 501 CP aren't at an advantage, a curve exists so your comparisons are pointless, and 541 CP = 501 CP until the cap changes (which is AT LEAST 3 months from now, so it's nothing to worry about in any context).Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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zFib✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »
Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you
It is fair. More time put in equals more rewards. Bottom line. But realistically, this was the simplest way got zos to do it. Even if they thought about it your way, it would take too much time and effort to do it that way.
youre telling me it would be difficult for them to just give an amount of CXP
Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you
See, you see it as exp points...which is meaningless in this context. There will be no gap. Everyone with a v16 will get 40 CP, there will be no gap, if I was 100 CP ahead of you, I'll still be 100 CP ahead of you. It's fair.
It is 100% NOT fair that you get, say, 100 CP from a flat value, and I get 40 or whatever. Because it's not equal. Fair is equal, and that's not equal -- and your twisted little view of things is not fair, equal, or anything of that ilk no matter how many times you go crying to the forums that people have more CP than you.
ok 1. i think you have serious comprehension issues bud. i havent complained once about people having more cp than me. youre pulling stuff out of nowhere which just shows how ignorant that comment is. im 100% fine with people having more cp than me just not fine with people who have more cp to get an even bigger advantage at DB release for the future of the game.
2. and the CXP points are NOT meaningless thats your twisted way of thinking because you just simply cant comprehend the math i guess. Do you realize that each cp costs more and more the more you get? you having 600 cp and getting 40 cp means ALOT more than someone with say 160 cp and a V16 getting 40 cp. He could get those 40 cp in a day but once hes at 600 cp like you, hes gonna have to work his ass off for those 40 cp you got which had a bonus of 30 MILLION CXP. youre not thinking about the future because its your twisted way of thinking about things. youre just thinking about the DAY that db released nothing else. youre just considering one day of this game not the long term future for thousands of players who have lower cp than you and are gonna have to work there asses off to get that 30 million CXP that was just GIVEN to the people who are ALREADY at an advantage
Your point? Someone has to work their ass off to get points they can't use? Because after 501 you can't do anything with them. By the time the cap is raised the equation they use to calculate the curve will change the curve to where they have to work less to gain the CP. So if someone's working their ass off to get PAST 501 then they're idiots. At that point they should be passively gaining them not actively, simply due to the fact that they should just wait for the curve to change before they go grinding to the next cap. If I have 501 CP and get bumped to 541, then that 40 is useless. If someone hits 501 right as the cap changes, then that 40 CP will be effectively less EXP to require than what the net gain from my free 40 was.
TL;DR, people going past 501 CP aren't at an advantage, a curve exists so your comparisons are pointless, and 541 CP = 501 CP until the cap changes (which is AT LEAST 3 months from now, so it's nothing to worry about in any context).
so what about someone whos at 160 cp and someone else at 400cp then. lets consider the thousands in that situation. At 400 cp it costs 467786 xp per cp( i just checked with the equation: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/222867/champion-system-catch-up-mechanic) so for someone at 400 cp to get 40 cp theyre getiing 18 million xp while someone at 160 cp gets 8,000,000 thats a ton of xp difference the lower cp player will have to make up for when the person with 160 cp catches up to the person with 400 cp. its not the end of the world by any means but its still a pretty significant difference in terms of what theyre giving peopleEdited by zFib on May 26, 2016 12:24AM1 -
Ajaxduo✭✭✭✭✭Talk about over exaggerating.
I'd imagine most players that have grinded CP to the cap have already exceeded it and have points that they cannot spend...and they are being rewarded with more points that they cannot spend. I hit the cap through playing casually during enlightenment btw. CP cap won't be increased for another few months anyway, so you have plenty of time to catch up. In fact the only people who benefit from this are players such as yourself who haven't hit the cap yet.
Also with the changes in DB grinding CP is going to be far easier than it was before, craft a set of training gear (now increases XP earned), grab ambrosia and head to a gold zone grind spots. Profit.- - -
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✭bowmanz607 wrote: »
Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you
It is fair. More time put in equals more rewards. Bottom line. But realistically, this was the simplest way got zos to do it. Even if they thought about it your way, it would take too much time and effort to do it that way.
youre telling me it would be difficult for them to just give an amount of CXP
Flat amount of CP is more fair. I have account over cap and another at 155. Why on earth should the lower level account get more CP? Flat CXP would turn to more CP at lower level. I simply disagree with that logic. That would be double-dipping to catch-up.bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
The whole artificial reverse calculation would vanish, if we removed catch-up. So, do we remove the catch-up system then to solve this?
ok so you see it fair that you get 40 million CXP in CP and i get 10 million CXP in CP and when i ( and thousands of others) have to catch up to you in CP well also have to deal with that massive bonus of 30 million you guys got in CXP? 30 million xp is almost 3 vet 16s worth of grinding. thats ridiculous. Im going to have to disagree with you
See, you see it as exp points...which is meaningless in this context. There will be no gap. Everyone with a v16 will get 40 CP, there will be no gap, if I was 100 CP ahead of you, I'll still be 100 CP ahead of you. It's fair.
It is 100% NOT fair that you get, say, 100 CP from a flat value, and I get 40 or whatever. Because it's not equal. Fair is equal, and that's not equal -- and your twisted little view of things is not fair, equal, or anything of that ilk no matter how many times you go crying to the forums that people have more CP than you.
ok 1. i think you have serious comprehension issues bud. i havent complained once about people having more cp than me. youre pulling stuff out of nowhere which just shows how ignorant that comment is. im 100% fine with people having more cp than me just not fine with people who have more cp to get an even bigger advantage at DB release for the future of the game.
2. and the CXP points are NOT meaningless thats your twisted way of thinking because you just simply cant comprehend the math i guess. Do you realize that each cp costs more and more the more you get? you having 600 cp and getting 40 cp means ALOT more than someone with say 160 cp and a V16 getting 40 cp. He could get those 40 cp in a day but once hes at 600 cp like you, hes gonna have to work his ass off for those 40 cp you got which had a bonus of 30 MILLION CXP. youre not thinking about the future because its your twisted way of thinking about things. youre just thinking about the DAY that db released nothing else. youre just considering one day of this game not the long term future for thousands of players who have lower cp than you and are gonna have to work there asses off to get that 30 million CXP that was just GIVEN to the people who are ALREADY at an advantage
Your point? Someone has to work their ass off to get points they can't use? Because after 501 you can't do anything with them. By the time the cap is raised the equation they use to calculate the curve will change the curve to where they have to work less to gain the CP. So if someone's working their ass off to get PAST 501 then they're idiots. At that point they should be passively gaining them not actively, simply due to the fact that they should just wait for the curve to change before they go grinding to the next cap. If I have 501 CP and get bumped to 541, then that 40 is useless. If someone hits 501 right as the cap changes, then that 40 CP will be effectively less EXP to require than what the net gain from my free 40 was.
TL;DR, people going past 501 CP aren't at an advantage, a curve exists so your comparisons are pointless, and 541 CP = 501 CP until the cap changes (which is AT LEAST 3 months from now, so it's nothing to worry about in any context).
so what about someone whos at 160 cp and someone else at 400cp then. lets consider the thousands in that situation. At 400 cp it costs 467786 xp per cp( i just checked with the equation: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/222867/champion-system-catch-up-mechanic) so for someone at 400 cp to get 40 cp theyre getiing 18 million xp while someone at 160 cp gets 8,000,000 thats a ton of xp difference the lower cp player will have to make up for when the person with 160 cp catches up to the person with 400 cp. its not the end of the world by any means but its still a pretty significant difference in terms of what theyre giving people
Noni would not be difficult I imagine, but it requires more work. This way is more sumple.
As to your second comment, again more work put in the more rewards you get. Why is that bad? You work harder, you get more. Simple as that.0 -
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He has more visits than you though @zFib . Which doesn't really matter if you stay logged in, as I do. My profile has 0 visits, but I'm here daily on my cell.All hail the prophet that is Mike Judge, for his Idiocracy prophecy is near fruition.0 -
zFib✭✭✭GivvumBoane wrote: »
He has more visits than you though @zFib . Which doesn't really matter if you stay logged in, as I do. My profile has 0 visits, but I'm here daily on my cell.
lol i havent used the forums since XBOX release just been playing the game and i still have more insightfuls than him
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zFib✭✭✭Talk about over exaggerating.
I'd imagine most players that have grinded CP to the cap have already exceeded it and have points that they cannot spend...and they are being rewarded with more points that they cannot spend. I hit the cap through playing casually during enlightenment btw. CP cap won't be increased for another few months anyway, so you have plenty of time to catch up. In fact the only people who benefit from this are players such as yourself who haven't hit the cap yet.
Also with the changes in DB grinding CP is going to be far easier than it was before, craft a set of training gear (now increases XP earned), grab ambrosia and head to a gold zone grind spots. Profit.
you should go back and read my post about the amount of difference of CXP its gonna be fore some players. its pretty big.
and yeah thats exactly what im plannin to do when DB releases i already have the gear crafted really looking forward to actually having something to do next patch because im gonna be farming like crazy for the new PVE sets like vipers sting, WOTA, and ravager Edited by zFib on May 26, 2016 1:00AM1 -
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✭Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »Ive got 8 toons that are v16 pre-exp requirement nerf...
Wah wah all new players just need to worry about CP 160 with removal of vet ranks and thyre also getting CP exp curve boost? Where is my justice? wah wah!!
Ive got 600+ CP but Im capped at 501 cos of reasons. Wah wah? Where is my justice?
I need well over 600k exp per CP I cannot spend? wah wah? where is my justice?
In short. Wah WAH wWAHAHWHAWHHWHAWAH!
Sooooooooo, what are you trying to say?
Basically im trying to say my right to WAH WAH is far greater than OP's right to WAH WAH. So therefore, my WAH WAH>>his WAH WAH. Hence, me getting 40 CP and him getting 40CP can be justified and his WAH WAH should not be able to hold a candle to my WAH WAH. You get my WAH WAH?
no. just no. the whole point of ZOS implementing the catch up mechanic was so that it wasnt impossible for newer players to catch up to the older players. the old cp sysstem was a HUGE problem and that why the fixed it. ZOS is taking a big step back by giving the players who already have an advantage more of an advantage by giving them say 30 million CXP and giving others say 10 million. all your whining about being capped and needing 600k xp per cp and u whining about the change from 400k xp per cp to the new system is all irrelevant because ZOS changed ALL of that for a reason.
Here's a list of things you are getting:
1. CP cap to keep you safe from evil players like me who have 600+ CP
2. A no CP campaign for you to twirl around in to stay safe from players like me who have 600+ CP
3. A reduction curve for CP exp to help you catch up.
4. Free v16 for all your toons as long as you have 160CP.
Here's a list of things players like me are getting:
1. The shaft.
Seriously you still want to WAH WAH? *** do you want? ZOS to hand out 600 CP for you the day you start a level 1 toon? The audacity of some of you.... really....Edited by Vangy on May 26, 2016 1:18AM(2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
(2)V16 Sorc- mag dps/stam dps
(2)V16 nb- stam dps/mag dps
(1)v16 temp- mag tank/mag dps
CP: 610 and counting
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✭✭GivvumBoane wrote: »
He has more visits than you though @zFib . Which doesn't really matter if you stay logged in, as I do. My profile has 0 visits, but I'm here daily on my cell.
lol i havent used the forums since XBOX release just been playing the game and i still have more insightfuls than him
"But the internet says I'm better"
Because you gain CP at a curve for XP, there is less incentive to play more once you pass the CP Cap. So giving less rewards for people that have dedicated more consistent, heavy game time would be horribly unfair. ZoS is not going to hand you max level or max CP, go out and earn it yourself.1 -
iam117✭✭✭its not based on cp or exp or cxp, so none of this matters, its 2.5 per vet rank on your highest toon. the end?<Liv3mind><PC/NA - Legion Of The Bloodworks>Snowflake Patrol0
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Reapor✭✭✭Realisticly instead of moaning on the forums you and others alike, you should have just grinded cp on learning this info to say a max of 461 CP to take advantage.
Thats what i did
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Skitttles✭✭✭✭I 100% agree walking legacy . How you perform is too heavily dependent on your cp. they should either remove them or change the cp skills drastically to make it more balanced for people who are at a lower #.
You only need roughly 300 to be competitive, that takes care of regen and damage. Trust me, I did just fine with 300 CP. I'm still not at the cap.
Also people have put in more time in the game and it shows with their CP. If you want more then play the game more, simple as that.Skittles | DC Stem Sok and sumtimes Nertbled1
