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The CXP given at DB release is unfair
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zFib✭✭✭Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »Ive got 8 toons that are v16 pre-exp requirement nerf...
Wah wah all new players just need to worry about CP 160 with removal of vet ranks and thyre also getting CP exp curve boost? Where is my justice? wah wah!!
Ive got 600+ CP but Im capped at 501 cos of reasons. Wah wah? Where is my justice?
I need well over 600k exp per CP I cannot spend? wah wah? where is my justice?
In short. Wah WAH wWAHAHWHAWHHWHAWAH!
Sooooooooo, what are you trying to say?
Basically im trying to say my right to WAH WAH is far greater than OP's right to WAH WAH. So therefore, my WAH WAH>>his WAH WAH. Hence, me getting 40 CP and him getting 40CP can be justified and his WAH WAH should not be able to hold a candle to my WAH WAH. You get my WAH WAH?
no. just no. the whole point of ZOS implementing the catch up mechanic was so that it wasnt impossible for newer players to catch up to the older players. the old cp sysstem was a HUGE problem and that why the fixed it. ZOS is taking a big step back by giving the players who already have an advantage more of an advantage by giving them say 30 million CXP and giving others say 10 million. all your whining about being capped and needing 600k xp per cp and u whining about the change from 400k xp per cp to the new system is all irrelevant because ZOS changed ALL of that for a reason.1 -
zFib✭✭✭Why do people worry so much about what other people get that they have earned? I just dont understand todays entitlement society. We wont be able to spend those points for over a year at the soonest.
i dont understand why some people feel entitled to certain things like yourself. Why do you feel entitled to get 30 million CXP while others get 10 million CXP?1 -
bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.0 -
zFib✭✭✭KingYogi415 wrote: »
OP's next post will be to sell top tier gear for crowns.
no thats not what im saying at all actually havent said anything close to that. do you just browse forums to try and make posts like that to be funny? cause what u said is completely irrelevant to this thread . My point is simple. Give an equal amount of CXP rather than 30 million to some and 10 million to some at DB release. Where do you even get this from? you must have not read anything on the thread.
and btw i wouldnt need gear from them if they sold it. Have 5 piece hundings v16 in impenand I have v16 hundings divines/infused. I have BS helms in L,M,H, kena shoulders in light and medium, v16 kags all impen and v16 kags divines/infused. i have 3 willpower all arcane and 3 agility all robust. i even have a maelstrom Maul, so what else do i need from the crown store??? nothing really get out of here with your unconstructive, "try to be funny" comments.1 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭my concern here is that people who are already at an advantage in terms of cp are getting even more of an advantage on DB release. Theyre getting more than double the amount of champion XP than people who are at lower cp.
Then get more cp before it comes out, its ok to reward the people who invest the most time.0 -
zFib✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed1 -
bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
So what your saying is that zos should not reward players for all of the hard work they put into the game after taking away something they worked hard to get simply because a casual or new player is behind? I'm sorry but I can never get on board with that.0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake1 -
zFib✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
So what your saying is that zos should not reward players for all of the hard work they put into the game after taking away something they worked hard to get simply because a casual or new player is behind? I'm sorry but I can never get on board with that.
no. im saying they should give an equal amount of CXP to everyone. go back and read the thread1 -
zFib✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one.Edited by zFib on May 25, 2016 10:42PM1 -
bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
So what your saying is that zos should not reward players for all of the hard work they put into the game after taking away something they worked hard to get simply because a casual or new player is behind? I'm sorry but I can never get on board with that.
no. im saying they should give an equal amount of CXP to everyone. go back and read the thread
Why? Again, if I spent a ton of time grinding multiple v16 toons, why should that time not be rewarded. I spent more time getting toons to max level than a new or casual player, yet we are treated equally? No, I want something to show for my time lost. Time that others did not spend doing this.0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
zFib✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
So what your saying is that zos should not reward players for all of the hard work they put into the game after taking away something they worked hard to get simply because a casual or new player is behind? I'm sorry but I can never get on board with that.
no. im saying they should give an equal amount of CXP to everyone. go back and read the thread
Why? Again, if I spent a ton of time grinding multiple v16 toons, why should that time not be rewarded. I spent more time getting toons to max level than a new or casual player, yet we are treated equally? No, I want something to show for my time lost. Time that others did not spend doing this.
the time will be rewarded. you would get a flat amount of CXP per VR level rather than an amount of CP per level, what dont u understand about this? its not like ur not being rewarded. ud be getting the same reward of CXP as everyone else with a v16.1 -
zFib✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?1 -
zFib✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
when i get to the cap and higher im gonna have to grind for that 30 million CXP to get me where you are thats not fair if you wanna keep talking about fair. they should give a lfat amount of CXP to everyone so those at low cp now dont have to grind for that extra bonus you guys get when its later in the game and we have higher cpEdited by zFib on May 25, 2016 10:48PM0 -
bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
So what your saying is that zos should not reward players for all of the hard work they put into the game after taking away something they worked hard to get simply because a casual or new player is behind? I'm sorry but I can never get on board with that.
no. im saying they should give an equal amount of CXP to everyone. go back and read the thread
Why? Again, if I spent a ton of time grinding multiple v16 toons, why should that time not be rewarded. I spent more time getting toons to max level than a new or casual player, yet we are treated equally? No, I want something to show for my time lost. Time that others did not spend doing this.
the time will be rewarded. you would get a flat amount of CXP per VR level rather than an amount of CP per level, what dont u understand about this? its not like ur not being rewarded. ud be getting the same reward of CXP as everyone else with a v16.
Yes, but your suggesting that I be awarded the same amount as a player that just got one too to v16 the day before it drops. How is that fair to a player with say 8 v16 toons? What don't u understand is the real question1 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Everyone that qualifies gets the 40 CP.
Awarding flat xp for cp would over complicate the distribution to hundreds of thousand players.
ZOS did it right by keeping it simple period.0 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭For those with at least 1 VR16 at DB release, ZOS will be giving you 40 cp's (or 2.5 cp per VR level) as a nice little compensation for VR's going away.
What most people seem to have forgotten is that when the champion system went live, players at max level were given 70 cp.
So for over 2 years of enjoying ESO, my "reward" is actually 110 cp's.
When DB launches, I'll collect my 40 cp's (that I won't be able to spend) and get right back to doing what I always do...playing the game and having fun.
Nailed it!
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GivvumBoane✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »So only players that have barely played should get it? What about the players that have grinder up multiple vets and with dB new players simply do to 50 which can be done in 1 day. So now all of that time players spent getting to v16 multiple times not only wasted their time, but also see no benefit for doing so. Ya sorry about your luck. Zos already caters to casuals and new players enough.
whos saying "only players that have barely played should get it?" go read the thread and come back when youre not misinformed
If people have so few CP that the difference between the effective exp between 40 CP on their account and 40 CP on someone else's, they've barely played. You effectively want those who barely have any CP to get more CP than those at or close to the cap. How is that fair? Someone who's played less than me gets more than me? Seems like pretty f'ed up logic.
the one with the F'ed up logic is you. How on earth do you not understand the simple concept of giving an equal amount of CXP to everyone. It may give people with the lower cp more than people with higher cp but what youre not understanding is its the same amount of CXP. this means that the people with the lower CP will still have to catch up and will have the same amount of grinding u had to do when they hit say 400 cp Lets say it costs 200k per cp. 200k * 400= 80 million xp for 400cp(hypothetical) so if they give everyone an equal amount of CXP that "xp bar" of 80 million xp is being evenly filled for every one. TH
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
when i get to the cap and higher im gonna have to grind for that 30 million CXP to get me where you are thats not fair if you wanna keep talking about fair. they should give a lfat amount of CXP to everyone so those at low cp now dont have to grind for that extra bonus you guys get when its later in the game and we have higher cp
Replying to your own post is a bumpAll hail the prophet that is Mike Judge, for his Idiocracy prophecy is near fruition.0 -
iam117✭✭✭
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
its fair that the game rewards based on effort put in, i understand that you were on console prior to and likely put in alot of effort into it but its a different server so unfortunately for you (and many others) that time does not matter. since you hopped on pc later than most of those that are at v16 your not going to be rewarded the same, the idea behind it is the closer you are to v16 the more you get, there are 2 reasons for this 1: is to reward those that have made it that far and make sure they are at 160cp or higher so they can equip their own gear (because you can get to v16 and have less) and 2: is to get people to buy exp scrolls before db drops, i suggest you buy some scrolls and get some more cp, becuase starting a thread about it isnt going to solve it. @valrien is correct, it just seems unfair because you cant have it, here is a hint get off the forum, get in game and get those levels :PEdited by iam117 on May 25, 2016 11:00PM<Liv3mind><PC/NA - Legion Of The Bloodworks>Snowflake Patrol1 -
iam117✭✭✭are you quoting yourself to argue with yourself OP?<Liv3mind><PC/NA - Legion Of The Bloodworks>Snowflake Patrol0
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GivvumBoane✭✭✭✭are you quoting yourself to argue with yourself OP?
That would be funny if the statements were contradictory.
but I think he intended to continue the rant and instead of editing his last post, he quoted himself. All hail the prophet that is Mike Judge, for his Idiocracy prophecy is near fruition.0 -
zFib✭✭✭
But it doesn't cost 200k per CP, that hypothetical isn't close to what we have. What we have is a curve determined by an equation. I don't even know why you're fixated on the exp gain. It's MORE fair to get 40 CP, because we're all gaining the same amount of power. Hell, people with less than 501 CP are gaining more power than the people with less than 501.
Once again, I ask. How is it fair that someone who put in less effort than me in getting these champion points deserves more bonus points? I don't see the fairness. I see 40 as fair.
so you see it fair that youre getting like 40 million CXP worth of CP and im getting like 10 million CXP worth of CP? how is that fair?
its fair that the game rewards based on effort put in, i understand that you were on console prior to and likely put in alot of effort into it but its a different server so unfortunately for you (and many others) that time does not matter. since you hopped on pc later than most of those that are at v16 your not going to be rewarded the same, the idea behind it is the closer you are to v16 the more you get, there are 2 reasons for this 1: is to reward those that have made it that far and make sure they are at 160cp or higher (because you can get to v16 and have less) and 2: is to get people to buy exp scrolls before db drops, i suggest you buy some scrolls and get some more cp, becuase starting a thread about it isnt going to solve it. @valrien is correct, it just seems unfair because you cant have it, here is a hint get off the forum, get in game and get those levels :P
no the problem is its not the closer i get to v16. im already v16 i grind every day but right now it costs me 240,000 xp per CP at 270 cp so for me to get to like 400 its around 40 million xp. theres only so much grinding i can do before DB releases if i dont wanna get sick of this game bro. ive already been going hard since cake week so i dont wanna push it with the grinding i have time to do some forum browsing once or twice a day lol i cant just sit grinding the whole timeEdited by zFib on May 25, 2016 11:05PM1 -
iam117✭✭✭GivvumBoane wrote: »
ahh, i agree, but i was hopeful, the irony would have been endlessly laughable<Liv3mind><PC/NA - Legion Of The Bloodworks>Snowflake Patrol0
