What alliance would you join in real life?

Autolycus · May 2016

None of the three alliance leaders are fit to rule Tamriel. Having aided all three of them numerous times, I can say with full confidence that any of them in position of prime authority would mean bad things for all of us.

Allow me to elaborate. There are actual spoilers here, if you haven't completed the story.

Emeric is lazy and incompetent. He can't do anything for himself, and always finds himself in the hands of the enemy. He even gets himself killed once, and is only alive today thanks to the Vestige.

Jorunn Skald-King is arrogant and stubborn. He does not have the intel he needs on his enemies to mount a proper assault or maintain a coordinated defense against any of them. Plus, he is almost always drunk. A legitimate attack on the Pact would be difficult no doubt, but primarily due to harsh terrain and conditions, as well as the hearty Nords willing to fight. It's definitely not because of his leadership, strategic capabilities, or combat prowess.

Ayrenn does not have a unified alliance to stand upon. Half of her alliance hates her and is actively trying to seize her throne. One cannot fight a civil war and fight two other alliances simultaneously. While she is a kind and respectable person, she cares far too much what her people think, to a fault. It is important to be supported by her people, but she is so concerned about being liked that it makes her appear to lack confidence.

Thanks for enduring my rant. I'll play along here too since you took the time to read this. If I had to choose one of the three, it'd probably be Ayrenn. She just needs the right people supporting her.

AugustoCP · May 2016

Lynx, the main reason the Dominion was formed was because they wouldn't accept the leadership of men. The whole premise of it is that men are not adequate to rule. Even inside the Dominion itself, the races other than the Altmer are seen as second class citizens.

Aisle9 · May 2016

Autolycus wrote: »

None of the three alliance leaders are fit to rule Tamriel. Having aided all three of them numerous times, I can say with full confidence that any of them in position of prime authority would mean bad things for all of us.

That.

But I'd go with Emeric, because he's voiced by Bill Nighy.

Ch4mpTW · May 2016

Easily the Aldmeri Doninion. They seem to be the most: Civilized, intelligent, and strongest (magically and stealth-wise). Not to mention that The Dominion has the most beautiful women. High Elf and Wood Elf women are gorgeous.

rotaugen454 · May 2016

AugustoCP wrote: »

Lynx, the main reason the Dominion was formed was because they wouldn't accept the leadership of men. The whole premise of it is that men are not adequate to rule. Even inside the Dominion itself, the races other than the Altmer are seen as second class citizens.

Taking a look around the actual world we live in, it's hard to disagree with them.

Lynx7386 · May 2016

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Easily the Aldmeri Doninion. They seem to be the most: Civilized, intelligent, and strongest (magically and stealth-wise). Not to mention that The Dominion has the most beautiful women. High Elf and Wood Elf women are gorgeous.

Come now, khajiit women are obviously the best

NateAssassin · May 2016

rotaugen454 wrote: »

AugustoCP wrote: »

Lynx, the main reason the Dominion was formed was because they wouldn't accept the leadership of men. The whole premise of it is that men are not adequate to rule. Even inside the Dominion itself, the races other than the Altmer are seen as second class citizens.

Taking a look around the actual world we live in, it's hard to disagree with them.

QFT

Father_X_Zombie · May 2016

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

I would join the Empire to unite with my fellow Imperial master race

But since that's not an option I'll join the next best thing. FOR THE COVENANT!

+1
The Empire, even after it has fallen, is causing all three factions grief. If it's life and death, go with the perpetual winner...

Good thing Tiber Septem will come in a few years and Jesus Beam everything and create the Empire we all know and love!

AugustoCP · May 2016

rotaugen454 wrote: »

AugustoCP wrote: »

Lynx, the main reason the Dominion was formed was because they wouldn't accept the leadership of men. The whole premise of it is that men are not adequate to rule. Even inside the Dominion itself, the races other than the Altmer are seen as second class citizens.

Taking a look around the actual world we live in, it's hard to disagree with them.

Take a look at Tamriel, do you really think elves are any better? Elves and humans are far more similar than any of them are willing to admit.

AugustoCP · May 2016

Autolycus wrote: »

Emeric is lazy and incompetent. He can't do anything for himself, and always finds himself in the hands of the enemy. He even gets himself killed once, and is only alive today thanks to the Vestige.

No, he is not. You mistake being thoughtful instead of passionate with lazy. Incompetent? Hardly, although I suppose it could be said in some areas. But no ruler is perfect, and the mark of a good one is to be able to admit his flaws and surround himself with advisors who can make up for said flaws. His flaws can be fixed by himself, as he is wise enough to do so. The same can't be said about Ayrenn or Jorunn.

Lightninvash · May 2016

AugustoCP wrote: »

It's sad how many people choose AD, I hope they only do it because they don't take it seriously.

I have an AD alt, yes, but only because I don't take him seriously, and I don't PvP on him. I would never support a racist empire who preaches about their superiority almost 100% of the time. Yes, you can say this is just a game, and you'd be right, but the poll asked if this was real, and if that was the case, the only possible answer would be DC. I want to unite Tamriel under a government where all are seen as equals, with no distinction of race, and all will have a voice in public decisions. The DC is the only one who aims for that.

@AugustoCP You know that queen Ayrenn actually hates the whole altmer superiority thing right? This is why the ancestors don't want to give her the blessing to be queen and in the beginning they try to assassinate her. She is disgusted by the altmer that believe they are superior beings. So saying that the empire preaches superiority is wrong. There are still people within the AD who have this belief, however the queen wants to do things differently. AD all the way!

Aisle9 · May 2016

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Easily the Aldmeri Doninion. They seem to be the most: Civilized, intelligent, and strongest (magically and stealth-wise). Not to mention that The Dominion has the most beautiful women. High Elf and Wood Elf women are gorgeous.

Come now, khajiit women are obviously the best

Come on... Lifts-Her-Tail anyone ? I mean...

Father_X_Zombie · May 2016

rotaugen454 wrote: »

AugustoCP wrote: »

Lynx, the main reason the Dominion was formed was because they wouldn't accept the leadership of men. The whole premise of it is that men are not adequate to rule. Even inside the Dominion itself, the races other than the Altmer are seen as second class citizens.

Taking a look around the actual world we live in, it's hard to disagree with them.

Your right, perhaps we should stop electing humans into government positions and replace them with monkeys.

Clearly makes sense

rotaugen454 · May 2016

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

rotaugen454 wrote: »

AugustoCP wrote: »

Lynx, the main reason the Dominion was formed was because they wouldn't accept the leadership of men. The whole premise of it is that men are not adequate to rule. Even inside the Dominion itself, the races other than the Altmer are seen as second class citizens.

Taking a look around the actual world we live in, it's hard to disagree with them.

Your right, perhaps we should stop electing humans into government positions and replace them with monkeys.

Clearly makes sense

I thought we already did...

Father_X_Zombie · May 2016

rotaugen454 wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

rotaugen454 wrote: »

AugustoCP wrote: »

Lynx, the main reason the Dominion was formed was because they wouldn't accept the leadership of men. The whole premise of it is that men are not adequate to rule. Even inside the Dominion itself, the races other than the Altmer are seen as second class citizens.

Taking a look around the actual world we live in, it's hard to disagree with them.

Your right, perhaps we should stop electing humans into government positions and replace them with monkeys.

Clearly makes sense

I thought we already did...

To whom are you referring?

rotaugen454 · May 2016

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

rotaugen454 wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

rotaugen454 wrote: »

AugustoCP wrote: »

Lynx, the main reason the Dominion was formed was because they wouldn't accept the leadership of men. The whole premise of it is that men are not adequate to rule. Even inside the Dominion itself, the races other than the Altmer are seen as second class citizens.

Taking a look around the actual world we live in, it's hard to disagree with them.

Your right, perhaps we should stop electing humans into government positions and replace them with monkeys.

Clearly makes sense

I thought we already did...

To whom are you referring?

Pretty much anyone in the U.S. Government of either party. I doubt elves would do worse.

Kendaric · May 2016

Pact, despite having to put up with those annoying lizards.

finalkingdom · May 2016

i would go aldmeri dominion simply beacause i always loved elven culture in games and i love playing magic based classes and high elves are the best magic race in lore. And i also love how summerset isle look

Autolycus · May 2016

AugustoCP wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

Emeric is lazy and incompetent. He can't do anything for himself, and always finds himself in the hands of the enemy. He even gets himself killed once, and is only alive today thanks to the Vestige.

No, he is not. You mistake being thoughtful instead of passionate with lazy. Incompetent? Hardly, although I suppose it could be said in some areas. But no ruler is perfect, and the mark of a good one is to be able to admit his flaws and surround himself with advisors who can make up for said flaws. His flaws can be fixed by himself, as he is wise enough to do so. The same can't be said about Ayrenn or Jorunn.

I respectfully disagree. Emeric is brave, but foolish. While it is respectable to admit one's own faults and mistakes, that alone does not make one a good ruler. Emeric is not surrounded by advisors who make up for those flaws. Three of those advisors were tricked into betraying him by daedra. Two others were too busy fighting over a provincial throne. He alone lost half of Bangkorai to the Tharns because he walked directly into a trap... twice.

His problems were fixed by a single individual throughout all of the Covenant's questline, being the Vestige. I'm not trying to say he isn't a "good" man or that he is necessarily unwise. I just don't agree that he is equipped to lead all of Tamriel, and he certainly isn't surrounded by people that can help him do that. Even at the moot between the three leaders to lay down arms to fight cooperatively against Molag Bal, he was the first to bark insults. Such behavior is foolish, and ultimately could (and likely would) lead to his downfall (and potentially all of Tamriel, were he the absolute authority).

menedhyn · May 2016

None of them. I bow my knee to nobody, but i'd swear an oath to protect those I care for - no matter what race they are.

Publius_Scipio · May 2016

No question about it.

theher0not · May 2016

SantieClaws wrote: »

Khajiit would form her own alliance - with booze and fishies.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Is that an option? Can I join?

If not I'll side with AD since they have the most khajiit, I wouldn't fight for them, but I'd live in their areas (and probably pay taxes to them).

Turelus · May 2016

Mead, Dark Elves and Lust Argonian Maids... I know the right choice.

BlackguardBob · May 2016

Gotta luv the bootiful people.

rotaugen454 · May 2016

Every alliance is going to have SOME people in it that think their race is superior. And each leader has good and bad points. I'd be willing to bet the average citizen is tired of the whole alliance war and just wants peaceful stability.

mwo1480 · May 2016

i would like to live in auridon, meet a cute bosmer girl, getting married in vunkelguard, having kids with a cute bosmer girl , taking over nirn, having a khajiit friend to drink with at the vunkelguard tavern, having a breton slave , playing chess with the queen

bloodenragedb14_ESO · May 2016

i feel the most tolerant faction is DC, plus the politics behind the alliance, in lore, are far better than the others.

mr1sho · May 2016

FOR THE COVENANT

Lynx7386 · May 2016

mwo1480 wrote: »

i would like to live in auridon, meet a cute bosmer girl, getting married in vunkelguard, having kids with a cute bosmer girl , taking over nirn, having a khajiit friend to drink with at the vunkelguard tavern, having a breton slave , playing chess with the queen

Just don't pick flowers for your bosmer girl.

leshpar · May 2016

After playing through all 3 alliances on my old main (cadwell's silver and gold) I have to say the faction I believe is the best is the daggerfall covenant. The way its run and their ideals I can support more than any other faction. They also seem the least racist and xenophobic. I like that a lot. So much so that I started a new character to replace my main in the DC. Long live the Covenant!