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Why New DLC Release on Console not Parallel with PC
Lord_Eomer
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I am a big fan of elder scrolls playing since Morrowind, I like ESO more on console than PC.
PC is always getting priority over consoles, is there a specific reason?
Why it can not be available on consoles same week or week after?
PC is always getting priority over consoles, is there a specific reason?
Why it can not be available on consoles same week or week after?
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phaneub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.4 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
I believe it's how developers need to adjust plan to release at same time.
It can be little hectic for them but consoles should have same time.Edited by Lord_Eomer on May 24, 2016 9:17AM2 -
nordsavage✭✭✭✭✭These things are never released together for many reason. Distribution capacity, troubleshooting even that companies will negotiate or pay a premium to have there platform be first to encourage sales of their product.I didn't choose tank life, tank life chose me.0 -
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✭I think they mentioned this on one of the Esolive streams.
It is because Sony and Microsoft approval process takes long and nothing can be pushed out without it unlike with PC which is an open platform you can push DLC out faster when there is no "Gatekeeper"Edited by Vipstaakki on May 24, 2016 9:22AM1 -
ginoboehm✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
I believe it's how developers need to adjust plan to release at same time.
It can be little hectic for them but consoles should have same time.
why sould we wait because you chose to play on the inferior platform?4 -
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✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
I believe it's how developers need to adjust plan to release at same time.
It can be little hectic for them but consoles should have same time.
You need to let the beta testers test it for us first
As others have said it is easier to release on PC first because Sony and Microsoft have an approval process ZOS has to go through to release on console. The PTS is PC only as well so all of the game testing and tweaking is done on one platform.PUG Life - the true test of your skill
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Marktoneth3✭✭✭IF they want to release the same time at console
All DLC will take longer time to launch because they have to finish console.1 -
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✭✭✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »I think they mentioned this on one of the Esolive streams.
It is because Sony and Microsoft approval process takes long and nothing can be pushed out without it unlike with PC which is an open platform you can push DLC out faster when there is no "Gatekeeper"
Pretty much this.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 500 -
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✭Because we (PC) beta test for consoles... easier to upload a new patch on PC than it is on consoles, where SoE/Microsoft needs to "validate" a build (ie. charge money to say it's ok).
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✭✭✭✭✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
^Exactly this.
PC can launch it normally, whereas Microsoft and Sony need to approve them over a process that takes like two weeks.
Plenty of games will hold on to the PC update for that time so the updates can coincide, but this isn't the case with ZOS.
Honestly as a PS4 player it does not affect me at all lol. I could care less if PC gets it two weeks later
Edited by Vaoh on May 24, 2016 10:55AM1 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
I believe it's how developers need to adjust plan to release at same time.
It can be little hectic for them but consoles should have same time.
why sould we wait because you chose to play on the inferior platform?
I also own PC version but console is so good, lag free and better managed,
Why Console users should wait???
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✭✭Doncellius wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
^Exactly this.
PC can launch it normally, whereas Microsoft and Sony need to approve them over a process that takes like two weeks.
Plenty of games will hold on to the PC update for that time so the updates can coincide, but this isn't the case with ZOS.
Honestly as a PS4 player it does not affect me at all lol. I could care less if PC gets it two weeks later
So approval for Sony can be applied earlier?0 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Curragraigue wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
I believe it's how developers need to adjust plan to release at same time.
It can be little hectic for them but consoles should have same time.
You need to let the beta testers test it for us first
As others have said it is easier to release on PC first because Sony and Microsoft have an approval process ZOS has to go through to release on console. The PTS is PC only as well so all of the game testing and tweaking is done on one platform.
I am also in software project management, it's all about how you manage (either expectations or delivery)0 -
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✭✭DCUO, FFXIV and even Warframe I believe, all have near or simultaneous patch launches. Most of the thinking in this thread is incorrect, misdated or plain wrong. This isn't 2008 where consoles have enigmatic architecture. They're PCs in a box.
There's also no reason why ZoS should keep the populations separate any longer, either. It's slowing down on PC and booming on console (PS4, at least, no idea about X1). I just made the swap and it's night and day. I wish I was playing my PC toon and not a copy from several months ago, however. So much to catch up on!1 -
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What the hell what game are you playing it'd laggy as hell on consoles.in PVe and PVP .Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
I believe it's how developers need to adjust plan to release at same time.
It can be little hectic for them but consoles should have same time.
why sould we wait because you chose to play on the inferior platform?
I also own PC version but console is so good, lag free and better managed,
Why Console users should wait???0 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am not be facing lags in PVE so can not complain.
It's running better that many other MMO0 -
ginoboehm✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Doncellius wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
^Exactly this.
PC can launch it normally, whereas Microsoft and Sony need to approve them over a process that takes like two weeks.
Plenty of games will hold on to the PC update for that time so the updates can coincide, but this isn't the case with ZOS.
Honestly as a PS4 player it does not affect me at all lol. I could care less if PC gets it two weeks later
So approval for Sony can be applied earlier?
because you chose to play on baisically bad pcs with old hardware that are gated and still owned by the cooperations you paid too much for to take them home/rent them? We the pc crowd actually decide what to install and when to install it. Don't blame anybody else for your bad shopping decissionEdited by ginoboehm on May 24, 2016 12:16PM1 -
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✭Simple answer, so PC players Beta test it!
You might be lucky and not get all the bugs and inbalance.0 -
CasNation✭✭✭✭✭Why would they delay PC DLC launches to coincide with console launch? They can't make console patches go live early, so they would have to push PC back. You know, the platform that does all the beta testing for the content...Besides, the 2 weeks in between PC and console launch are basically a second test period where we find all of the issues that made it to the live server, and then hope SOME of them get fixed. Pushing back PC launch by 2 weeks would just serve to delay the fix cycle for BOTH platforms. Why would you want this? It's not like there is cross play, so no one is gaining an advantage over you.PC NA AD
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What type of PVE do you play?Is it the sol . 1-50 content or dungeons and trials?I won't believe that you do any type of endgame content and you game doesn't lag.Lord_Dexter wrote: »I am not be facing lags in PVE so can not complain.
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Doncellius wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
^Exactly this.
PC can launch it normally, whereas Microsoft and Sony need to approve them over a process that takes like two weeks.
Plenty of games will hold on to the PC update for that time so the updates can coincide, but this isn't the case with ZOS.
Honestly as a PS4 player it does not affect me at all lol. I could care less if PC gets it two weeks later
So approval for Sony can be applied earlier?
because you chose to play on baisically bad pcs with old hardware that are gated and still owned by the cooperations you paid too much for to take them home/rent them? We the pc crowd actually decide what to install and when to install it. Don't blame anybody else for your bad shopping decission
This is not the reason, evey gamer have his own choice to choose platform.
And are not blaming anybody but asking Devopers to try having one release date...0 -
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What type of PVE do you play?Is it the sol . 1-50 content or dungeons and trials?I won't believe that you do any type of endgame content and you game doesn't lag.Lord_Dexter wrote: »I am not be facing lags in PVE so can not complain.
It's running better that many other MMO
I can not justify you if you do not want to believe,
I am not having lags in PVE...0 -
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Just tell me do you compete in endgame PVE or just the base game solo content that's all I am asking.Lord_Dexter wrote: »
What type of PVE do you play?Is it the sol . 1-50 content or dungeons and trials?I won't believe that you do any type of endgame content and you game doesn't lag.Lord_Dexter wrote: »I am not be facing lags in PVE so can not complain.
It's running better that many other MMO
I can not justify you if you do not want to believe,
I am not having lags in PVE...0 -
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✭✭Ok have 4 veteran v 16 characters all da time doing vet dungeons with PSN ID : Lord_StonnerEdited by Lord_Eomer on May 24, 2016 12:46PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Doncellius wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
^Exactly this.
PC can launch it normally, whereas Microsoft and Sony need to approve them over a process that takes like two weeks.
Plenty of games will hold on to the PC update for that time so the updates can coincide, but this isn't the case with ZOS.
Honestly as a PS4 player it does not affect me at all lol. I could care less if PC gets it two weeks later
So approval for Sony can be applied earlier?
because you chose to play on baisically bad pcs with old hardware that are gated and still owned by the cooperations you paid too much for to take them home/rent them? We the pc crowd actually decide what to install and when to install it. Don't blame anybody else for your bad shopping decission
This is not the reason, evey gamer have his own choice to choose platform.
And are not blaming anybody but asking Devopers to try having one release date...
It takes a lot more staff to do that in a big release on all platforms at the same time - if something goes wrong and shtf, they are better off to have to deal with just one platform at a time. You see already how they struggle to fix stuff, when it goes wrong, it takes them weeks or months even - I think they do not have the staff to do all releases at the same time.Edited by Lysette on May 24, 2016 12:46PM1 -
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I really don't believe your game doesn't lag in Vet dungeons but thank you for answering.Lord_Dexter wrote: »Ok have 4 veteran v 16 characters all da time doing vet dungeons with PSN ID : Lord_Stonner0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Doncellius wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Different encoding process, and their updates have to get a pass from Sony and Microsoft. PC has no third party vendor to get clearance.
^Exactly this.
PC can launch it normally, whereas Microsoft and Sony need to approve them over a process that takes like two weeks.
Plenty of games will hold on to the PC update for that time so the updates can coincide, but this isn't the case with ZOS.
Honestly as a PS4 player it does not affect me at all lol. I could care less if PC gets it two weeks later
So approval for Sony can be applied earlier?
No. Not really.
The update needs to be 100% "finished" before they send it to Sony and Microsoft. They send it ASAP when the update has been completed. A couple changes are probably made during the approval process though which is why Xbox and PS4 sometimes are a few days off from each other.
When the update is "finished" it is immediately applied to the PC servers.
If it was given approval earlier from Sony than expected then the update was completed earlier than expected and therefore applied to PC earlier as well.1 -
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✭Everyone blames Sony and Microsoft but yet there are plenty of other similar titles that get the DLC out at the samt time like DCUO or FFXIV, there are plenty of others.0 -
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✭Everyone blames Sony and Microsoft but yet there are plenty of other similar titles that get the DLC out at the samt time like DCUO or FFXIV, there are plenty of others.
Because they delay release so they go out together.Some of my favorite screenshots
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