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Calling All DC and EP to Kick AD from Haderus

  • Rylana
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    AD thinks EP zurgs in Haderus when we wipe thier 24-30 with 12 people lol. Gg wp

    Pretty much you nailed by this "EP zurgs". The best you can do with your 12 people is to take a resource and try farm. I have hardly ever seen a keep taken from AD if there is 12 people against 24-30 nor I have hardly seen that happpen in any circumstances by you. Lets be clear I don´t think there is another 12 people group on EP that can do it apart from the obvious top guilds Haxus and Invictus. I think you refer to Darkest Requiem. And no doubt you have made quite a lot for EP but lets not pretend you don´t often group up with pugs or whoever to zerg. Yes you play medium sized pvp too but that is less of a threat to AD.

    Incorrect. If its Haddy, then yes we are always playing 4 to 1. And who are you? You opinion is literally 100% INVALID. You are one of the zerglings in the sea of AD. What do you know? Who gave you big boy permissions to speak here?

    I have the Forums warrior license just like you. You don´t always 4 to 1. Sometimes you are very easily outmannered. Looks like you think too big of yourself. Yes on Haddy there is no other EP guild of your quality but you don´t seriously think your 12 people comparisons to 24-40 AD? I am sorry to say your ego is bigger than your b***s.
    Rylana wrote: »
    AD thinks EP zurgs in Haderus when we wipe thier 24-30 with 12 people lol. Gg wp

    Pretty much you nailed by this "EP zurgs". The best you can do with your 12 people is to take a resource and try farm. I have hardly ever seen a keep taken from AD if there is 12 people against 24-30 nor I have hardly seen that happpen in any circumstances by you. Lets be clear I don´t think there is another 12 people group on EP that can do it apart from the obvious top guilds Haxus and Invictus. I think you refer to Darkest Requiem. And no doubt you have made quite a lot for EP but lets not pretend you don´t often group up with pugs or whoever to zerg. Yes you play medium sized pvp too but that is less of a threat to AD.

    As the Second in Command of Darkest Requiem, and a former elite member/raid lead of our parent guild GoS, i will tell you right now we do not group with pugs, run all within the guild, and rarely run more than 20 people all told, and usually less than 15.

    Also, Invictus is the other half of GoS, we are just as good as they are, period. So shut up with comparisons about the guilds.

    To put this more bluntly the Invictus core, and the DR core, are the original GoS A-team combined. All of the officers/raid leads, and elites from GoS comprise both guilds at the top. We are separate guilds because they wanted to play together on their own. But make no mistake, Darkest Requiem IS Guild of Shadows born, hell Zazeer is even one of us, the GM of GoS.

    You are very much like GoS. Your tactics are pain in the a** but you pretend to be fighting (farming) like Haxus. And no you are nothing like them. You rather travel lightyears to some remote resource or keep to ninja it. As much as I have seen you fight the numbers you boast here are much less and you often die. Much more than the top guilds I know. You are hard working guild but not the pain train similar to the guilds that are on top.

    Edit. I see you read that I meant you literally group up with pugs. Nope that you are surrounded by 30 to 40+ pugs. That is not exactly guild play then. Btw Invictus roster has many familiar faces from Havoc etc so don´t try to say it is you. If you had the same names Haddy EP would do something. I mean actually own the map.

    Members of Invictus that are former GoS:

    Vjori, Rozenwyn, Big Ernie, Vortex, Clerod, Teut, Nymeria (yes she was in GoS, in havoc later), Indra, Stewie, Purry, Sinister, Xkira, and thats just off the top of my head without going to look at the other thread with their roster. We ran together, trained together, came into our own together.

    All of those people except Nym who was gone before I joined were in GoS with me until Zaz basically disbanded the guild. We ran as one big unit of talent 20 deep, and it ended up 10-12 there, 10-12 here, and then built from there.

    So its literally half in each guild. If youre implying they are better than the 10 with me, then unfortunately your view is skewed because a lot of them are only better than us in their own minds, hell some of them came after me from other guilds and werent even in GoS as long as I was.

    Are they good? Absolutely, everyone is GoS was good. There were differences of opinion, differences in who wanted to play with who, but not even once will i accept an argument of skill disparity. If anything there isnt a single member of Invictus thats better than me, nor am I better than they, and id say that for any core member of DR as well.
    Edited by Rylana on May 22, 2016 6:42AM
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  • Minnesinger
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    Rylana wrote: »
    AD thinks EP zurgs in Haderus when we wipe thier 24-30 with 12 people lol. Gg wp

    Pretty much you nailed by this "EP zurgs". The best you can do with your 12 people is to take a resource and try farm. I have hardly ever seen a keep taken from AD if there is 12 people against 24-30 nor I have hardly seen that happpen in any circumstances by you. Lets be clear I don´t think there is another 12 people group on EP that can do it apart from the obvious top guilds Haxus and Invictus. I think you refer to Darkest Requiem. And no doubt you have made quite a lot for EP but lets not pretend you don´t often group up with pugs or whoever to zerg. Yes you play medium sized pvp too but that is less of a threat to AD.

    Incorrect. If its Haddy, then yes we are always playing 4 to 1. And who are you? You opinion is literally 100% INVALID. You are one of the zerglings in the sea of AD. What do you know? Who gave you big boy permissions to speak here?

    I have the Forums warrior license just like you. You don´t always 4 to 1. Sometimes you are very easily outmannered. Looks like you think too big of yourself. Yes on Haddy there is no other EP guild of your quality but you don´t seriously think your 12 people comparisons to 24-40 AD? I am sorry to say your ego is bigger than your b***s.
    Rylana wrote: »
    AD thinks EP zurgs in Haderus when we wipe thier 24-30 with 12 people lol. Gg wp

    Pretty much you nailed by this "EP zurgs". The best you can do with your 12 people is to take a resource and try farm. I have hardly ever seen a keep taken from AD if there is 12 people against 24-30 nor I have hardly seen that happpen in any circumstances by you. Lets be clear I don´t think there is another 12 people group on EP that can do it apart from the obvious top guilds Haxus and Invictus. I think you refer to Darkest Requiem. And no doubt you have made quite a lot for EP but lets not pretend you don´t often group up with pugs or whoever to zerg. Yes you play medium sized pvp too but that is less of a threat to AD.

    As the Second in Command of Darkest Requiem, and a former elite member/raid lead of our parent guild GoS, i will tell you right now we do not group with pugs, run all within the guild, and rarely run more than 20 people all told, and usually less than 15.

    Also, Invictus is the other half of GoS, we are just as good as they are, period. So shut up with comparisons about the guilds.

    To put this more bluntly the Invictus core, and the DR core, are the original GoS A-team combined. All of the officers/raid leads, and elites from GoS comprise both guilds at the top. We are separate guilds because they wanted to play together on their own. But make no mistake, Darkest Requiem IS Guild of Shadows born, hell Zazeer is even one of us, the GM of GoS.

    You are very much like GoS. Your tactics are pain in the a** but you pretend to be fighting (farming) like Haxus. And no you are nothing like them. You rather travel lightyears to some remote resource or keep to ninja it. As much as I have seen you fight the numbers you boast here are much less and you often die. Much more than the top guilds I know. You are hard working guild but not the pain train similar to the guilds that are on top.

    Edit. I see you read that I meant you literally group up with pugs. Nope that you are surrounded by 30 to 40+ pugs. That is not exactly guild play then. Btw Invictus roster has many familiar faces from Havoc etc so don´t try to say it is you. If you had the same names Haddy EP would do something. I mean actually own the map.

    Members of Invictus that are former GoS:

    Vjori, Rozenwyn, Big Ernie, Vortex, Clerod, Teut, Nymeria (yes she was in GoS, in havoc later), Indra, Stewie, Purry, Sinister, Xkira, and thats just off the top of my head without going to look at the other thread with their roster. We ran together, trained together, came into our own together.

    All of those people except Nym who was gone before I joined were in GoS with me until Zaz basically disbanded the guild. We ran as one big unit of talent 20 deep, and it ended up 10-12 there, 10-12 here, and then built from there.

    So its literally half in each guild. If youre implying they are better than the 10 with me, then unfortunately your view is skewed because a lot of them are only better than us in their own minds, hell some of them came after me from other guilds and werent even in GoS as long as I was.

    Are they good? Absolutely, everyone is GoS was good. There were differences of opinion, differences in who wanted to play with who, but not even once will i accept an argument of skill disparity. If anything there isnt a single member of Invictus thats better than me, nor am I better than they, and id say that for any core member of DR as well.

    This isn´t some rant about EP guilds. Over the period of 2 years many good guilds have played the game. More like I don´t buy your boast about the numbers you claim to defeat nor the results of it. I just don´t see you dominating in many or some fights if the numbers are even. This against Haddy AD. I get it you know more about your guild thus I just offer my view from an enemy perspective. It is all cool I don´t want to be disrecpectful to EP. Good fights.
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  • Darnathian
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    Rylana wrote: »
    AD thinks EP zurgs in Haderus when we wipe thier 24-30 with 12 people lol. Gg wp

    Pretty much you nailed by this "EP zurgs". The best you can do with your 12 people is to take a resource and try farm. I have hardly ever seen a keep taken from AD if there is 12 people against 24-30 nor I have hardly seen that happpen in any circumstances by you. Lets be clear I don´t think there is another 12 people group on EP that can do it apart from the obvious top guilds Haxus and Invictus. I think you refer to Darkest Requiem. And no doubt you have made quite a lot for EP but lets not pretend you don´t often group up with pugs or whoever to zerg. Yes you play medium sized pvp too but that is less of a threat to AD.

    Incorrect. If its Haddy, then yes we are always playing 4 to 1. And who are you? You opinion is literally 100% INVALID. You are one of the zerglings in the sea of AD. What do you know? Who gave you big boy permissions to speak here?

    I have the Forums warrior license just like you. You don´t always 4 to 1. Sometimes you are very easily outmannered. Looks like you think too big of yourself. Yes on Haddy there is no other EP guild of your quality but you don´t seriously think your 12 people comparisons to 24-40 AD? I am sorry to say your ego is bigger than your b***s.
    Rylana wrote: »
    AD thinks EP zurgs in Haderus when we wipe thier 24-30 with 12 people lol. Gg wp

    Pretty much you nailed by this "EP zurgs". The best you can do with your 12 people is to take a resource and try farm. I have hardly ever seen a keep taken from AD if there is 12 people against 24-30 nor I have hardly seen that happpen in any circumstances by you. Lets be clear I don´t think there is another 12 people group on EP that can do it apart from the obvious top guilds Haxus and Invictus. I think you refer to Darkest Requiem. And no doubt you have made quite a lot for EP but lets not pretend you don´t often group up with pugs or whoever to zerg. Yes you play medium sized pvp too but that is less of a threat to AD.

    As the Second in Command of Darkest Requiem, and a former elite member/raid lead of our parent guild GoS, i will tell you right now we do not group with pugs, run all within the guild, and rarely run more than 20 people all told, and usually less than 15.

    Also, Invictus is the other half of GoS, we are just as good as they are, period. So shut up with comparisons about the guilds.

    To put this more bluntly the Invictus core, and the DR core, are the original GoS A-team combined. All of the officers/raid leads, and elites from GoS comprise both guilds at the top. We are separate guilds because they wanted to play together on their own. But make no mistake, Darkest Requiem IS Guild of Shadows born, hell Zazeer is even one of us, the GM of GoS.

    You are very much like GoS. Your tactics are pain in the a** but you pretend to be fighting (farming) like Haxus. And no you are nothing like them. You rather travel lightyears to some remote resource or keep to ninja it. As much as I have seen you fight the numbers you boast here are much less and you often die. Much more than the top guilds I know. You are hard working guild but not the pain train similar to the guilds that are on top.

    Edit. I see you read that I meant you literally group up with pugs. Nope that you are surrounded by 30 to 40+ pugs. That is not exactly guild play then. Btw Invictus roster has many familiar faces from Havoc etc so don´t try to say it is you. If you had the same names Haddy EP would do something. I mean actually own the map.

    Members of Invictus that are former GoS:

    Vjori, Rozenwyn, Big Ernie, Vortex, Clerod, Teut, Nymeria (yes she was in GoS, in havoc later), Indra, Stewie, Purry, Sinister, Xkira, and thats just off the top of my head without going to look at the other thread with their roster. We ran together, trained together, came into our own together.

    All of those people except Nym who was gone before I joined were in GoS with me until Zaz basically disbanded the guild. We ran as one big unit of talent 20 deep, and it ended up 10-12 there, 10-12 here, and then built from there.

    So its literally half in each guild. If youre implying they are better than the 10 with me, then unfortunately your view is skewed because a lot of them are only better than us in their own minds, hell some of them came after me from other guilds and werent even in GoS as long as I was.

    Are they good? Absolutely, everyone is GoS was good. There were differences of opinion, differences in who wanted to play with who, but not even once will i accept an argument of skill disparity. If anything there isnt a single member of Invictus thats better than me, nor am I better than they, and id say that for any core member of DR as well.

    I disagree. I have fought you all. Nym, Vortex, and Big Ernie are better. Your good but they have an edge imo.

    Also. Stop replying to forum smack talking. Just kill them in game. Thats what the great guilds do. No need to banter on the forums with dudes that no one knows. Especially from those who dont respect their elders. lol
  • rfennell_ESO
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    holosoul wrote: »
    Incorrect. If its Haddy, then yes we are always playing 4 to 1. And who are you? You opinion is literally 100% INVALID. You are one of the zerglings in the sea of AD. What do you know? Who gave you big boy permissions to speak here?

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    For those of us who really only play during prime time hours (after work and before dinner), this is how the servers look when we log on.

    Precisely.

    That's how it always (well, or nearly always) looks if you are a primetime(s) player.

    Oh and it's nearly always purple alliance in effect at those times.

    Here is what it looks like if you get home a bit earlier and log on. Note the scrolls with pop locked EP (or 3 bars) and 1 bar AD and 1 bar DC.

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  • rfennell_ESO
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    AD thinks EP zurgs in Haderus when we wipe thier 24-30 with 12 people lol. Gg wp

    Pretty much you nailed by this "EP zurgs". The best you can do with your 12 people is to take a resource and try farm. I have hardly ever seen a keep taken from AD if there is 12 people against 24-30 nor I have hardly seen that happpen in any circumstances by you. Lets be clear I don´t think there is another 12 people group on EP that can do it apart from the obvious top guilds Haxus and Invictus. I think you refer to Darkest Requiem. And no doubt you have made quite a lot for EP but lets not pretend you don´t often group up with pugs or whoever to zerg. Yes you play medium sized pvp too but that is less of a threat to AD.

    Incorrect. If its Haddy, then yes we are always playing 4 to 1. And who are you? You opinion is literally 100% INVALID. You are one of the zerglings in the sea of AD. What do you know? Who gave you big boy permissions to speak here?

    I guess just making things up runs in the guild.

    You are NEVER outnumbered 4 to 1. You are always a zerg, and just because the rest of the zerg isn't currently in your group... doesn't make it not a zerg.
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    Bump for hypocrisy
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    Anazasi wrote: »
    Bump for hypocrisy

    Its about as hypocritical as a starving person and a rich person complaining over who shouldn't eat the last donut.
    Edited by Armitas on June 6, 2016 3:46PM
    Retired.
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  • Delphinia
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    I haven't had Haderus as a home or guest campaign in months. How are the state of things there now overall?
    The last I heard, DC owned everything, every last resource on the map, up to every gate.
    Was wondering if that was just a snapshot of a short lived moment, or if it's like this most days.
    Edited by Delphinia on July 19, 2016 3:05PM
  • Rylana
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    Delphinia wrote: »
    I haven't had Haderus as a home or guest campaign in months. How are the state of things there now overall?
    The last I heard, DC owned everything, every last resource on the map, up to every gate.
    Was wondering if that was just a snapshot of a short lived moment, or if it's like this most days.

    Depends on the night. When i field a full raid the map swaps around pretty quickly, but it cant be sustained by the EP pugs, the DC zerg is real and they just take back all gains once we are off the field.

    A lot of EP seems to only want to play here during fair weather times when the map is already fully red or dominant, they give up and crawl into sewers or trueflame the moment it gets "hard". Two weeks ago id have told you that EP was the dominant faction, holding emp and score pretty much solid, but then another DC guild swapped over from true, and the campaign went to chaos.

    That being said, the DC zerg in prime approaches stupid levels, ive seen trueflame levels of zergballing here. Oftentimes one raid of 24+ down south, one raid of 24+ up north, and small groups all over the place.

    When they combine its easily 100+ DC zerging down things like last emp keep. Sometimes the lag approaches 999+ ping, gets very much like lolflame. if anything I have lost most of my old respect for DC, they who cried in streams and on the forums about "muh smallmanz" now running 40+ deep and Xv1ing every single they come across. Call me bad for running 16-20 a couple nights a week, 12-16 most other nights, come back and see them running two full raids (two stacked guilds) on top of each other. Seems legit.

    Off hours its better, if you like being hit by 20 DC every time you take a farm or mine. But when the guilds are on its not so bad, the DC just sit on defense the whole time then.

    AD is "mostly" irrelevant now, I think that zerg got beat pretty well into submission from their antics a couple months ago, along with one group swapping to true, but they still try to throw 50+ bodies at BRK front door on occasion and get farmed.

    So basically the bottom line of Haderus - its been balanced some weeks, EP dominant others, most recently DC have completely overrun it, and AD seemed to have finally thinned out nicely. The lag between 6pm and 10pm central can be ridiculous though, especially if final emp defenses or major objective fights are happening.

    There is no more room for DC here, maybe room for a guild of EP, AD could use a guild but not one thats gonna just push BRK all day like usual.
    Edited by Rylana on July 19, 2016 3:26PM
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  • Ghostbane
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    Haderus IC has been off the roof.
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  • NBrookus
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    Delphinia wrote: »
    I haven't had Haderus as a home or guest campaign in months. How are the state of things there now overall?
    The last I heard, DC owned everything, every last resource on the map, up to every gate.
    Was wondering if that was just a snapshot of a short lived moment, or if it's like this most days.

    I've been in and out at all hours farming dolmens and such lately. It's not DC has too many or EP has too many, it's that they aren't all on at the same time.

    Lately the day goes like this:
    EP starts zerging about 1-2PM in the afternoon against often very outnumbered DC. Mostly randoms it seems, but 30-40 red deep is not unusual at that hour against 5-10 DC. DC just tries to slow the push. The EP guilds come on later. About 7 Central time all of DC logs on and pushes back. It's Truelag Zergwars II but less organized. Then much of EP goes to bed earlier and DC sometimes runs over the map after I've logged out for the night.

    All of that may change when school goes back in session. It might be a lot of kids playing EP in the afternoon.

    AD is in a sad state on Haderus. Every now and then they'll field a big zerg but it's not a steady presence.
    Rylana wrote: »
    if anything I have lost most of my old respect for DC, they who cried in streams and on the forums about "muh smallmanz" now running 40+ deep and Xv1ing every single they come across. Call me bad for running 16-20 a couple nights a week, 12-16 most other nights, come back and see them running two full raids (two stacked guilds) on top of each other. Seems legit.

    You may have a group of 12-20, but you tend to pick up a lot of randoms. I've seen you running 40 deep often. That's not blame: it isn't like you can make them stop following you. But if I see DR I definitely don't assume there's 12 of you.

    Speaking of zerging down single players... it was just the other day when I was trying to stay out of the way of a DR-fronted zerg when my hiding spot was detected and you and dozens of EP all had to rush over and jump on me outside Bleakers. There were 5 ults from 5 different players on my death recap for one very squishy sorc. (What a terrible waste of ultimate.)

    Xv1 is not an exclusive DC problem, nor an EP or AD. All factions do it. It's a pack behavior issue; that zerg train starts running and people just mow down everything in their path.

    And it seems Wrobel wants the game to work this way.
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    Delphinia wrote: »
    I haven't had Haderus as a home or guest campaign in months. How are the state of things there now overall?
    The last I heard, DC owned everything, every last resource on the map, up to every gate.
    Was wondering if that was just a snapshot of a short lived moment, or if it's like this most days.

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  • WuffyCerulei
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    ignore this comment.
    Edited by WuffyCerulei on July 19, 2016 9:03PM
    Sorcerer's pretty much been the same for years. Nerf Rush of Agony and Saints&Seducer's
  • WuffyCerulei
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    I need to make new threads pertaining to Haderus and Trueflame.
    Sorcerer's pretty much been the same for years. Nerf Rush of Agony and Saints&Seducer's
  • Minalan
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    Delphinia wrote: »
    I haven't had Haderus as a home or guest campaign in months. How are the state of things there now overall?
    The last I heard, DC owned everything, every last resource on the map, up to every gate.
    Was wondering if that was just a snapshot of a short lived moment, or if it's like this most days.

    mission-accomplished-gif-i5.jpg

    Awesome. Just awesome.

    :lol:
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    cute pic Roehamad.. not sure I get the reference.. but, still cute :)
    anyway, thanks for the honest responses.. I was trying to get an idea as to whether it would be worth trying that campaign out again from time to time. I re homed elsewhere a while ago, and am looking to guest in a fairly balanced campaign.
  • Minalan
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    Delphinia wrote: »
    cute pic Roehamad.. not sure I get the reference.. but, still cute :)
    anyway, thanks for the honest responses.. I was trying to get an idea as to whether it would be worth trying that campaign out again from time to time. I re homed elsewhere a while ago, and am looking to guest in a fairly balanced campaign.

    The pic is a direct answer to the thread title... AD are not strong in this campaign, people like yourself left.

    Now you just made the whole joke not funny anymore. Shame!
  • Barlthump
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    NBrookus wrote: »
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    I haven't had Haderus as a home or guest campaign in months. How are the state of things there now overall?
    The last I heard, DC owned everything, every last resource on the map, up to every gate.
    Was wondering if that was just a snapshot of a short lived moment, or if it's like this most days.

    I've been in and out at all hours farming dolmens and such lately. It's not DC has too many or EP has too many, it's that they aren't all on at the same time.

    Lately the day goes like this:
    EP starts zerging about 1-2PM in the afternoon against often very outnumbered DC. Mostly randoms it seems, but 30-40 red deep is not unusual at that hour against 5-10 DC. DC just tries to slow the push. The EP guilds come on later. About 7 Central time all of DC logs on and pushes back. It's Truelag Zergwars II but less organized. Then much of EP goes to bed earlier and DC sometimes runs over the map after I've logged out for the night.

    All of that may change when school goes back in session. It might be a lot of kids playing EP in the afternoon.

    AD is in a sad state on Haderus. Every now and then they'll field a big zerg but it's not a steady presence.
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    if anything I have lost most of my old respect for DC, they who cried in streams and on the forums about "muh smallmanz" now running 40+ deep and Xv1ing every single they come across. Call me bad for running 16-20 a couple nights a week, 12-16 most other nights, come back and see them running two full raids (two stacked guilds) on top of each other. Seems legit.

    You may have a group of 12-20, but you tend to pick up a lot of randoms. I've seen you running 40 deep often. That's not blame: it isn't like you can make them stop following you. But if I see DR I definitely don't assume there's 12 of you.

    Speaking of zerging down single players... it was just the other day when I was trying to stay out of the way of a DR-fronted zerg when my hiding spot was detected and you and dozens of EP all had to rush over and jump on me outside Bleakers. There were 5 ults from 5 different players on my death recap for one very squishy sorc. (What a terrible waste of ultimate.)

    Xv1 is not an exclusive DC problem, nor an EP or AD. All factions do it. It's a pack behavior issue; that zerg train starts running and people just mow down everything in their path.

    And it seems Wrobel wants the game to work this way.

    Sssh your logic has no place here. They gonna deny that they zerg. They gonna say they run 50 groups of 2 man. That's how pvp works. When they win they be like that ain't a zerg. But when they lose they be omg omg what a zergfest. I've learned to read all these posts and laugh and wait for the day the next gvg comes and put them in their place.
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    It's not just on the forums, @Barlthump. "OMG huge zerg at ____!" goes out in zone chat... and it's 6 people.
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    Rolled 18 tonight, decided to take a trip to aleswell farm

    Holy mother of god what did I invoke? 2 raids? more like 3 raids of DC, completely discombobulated, just a mass of hell lag and siege came out of that keep. i couldnt even pick a guild out of that mess, it was just a sea of blues.

    Made for some craaaaaazy fighting back along the road to bleakers, but dear lord.

    Then the EP pugs hitting alessia pissed me off, so i left the north and let DC just have chal and arrius to punish my own faction as i took faregyl and bloodmayne.

    >_> But BAW GAWD THE DC HOARRRRRDDD
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    18?
    dVIS2TE.jpg

    Was fun till you started tower farming, but the lag was pretty bad. I thought the numbers actually at the farm were fairly even. Players stealthed up on the walls watching don't really count.

    (No making fun of my tank, it was only her second night in Cyrodiil.)
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    Ya the DR group was 18, 19 at high point iirc. I wasnt leading personally tonight Pug Shellshock was, i was just healing all the things.

    I remember specifically fighting your little group there a couple times really early on, and then the swarm just.... came out of nowhere really. We went into the tower because of the size of it, there was nothing we could do to keep up with infinite respawning and a dozen siege hitting us from every angle with all the bodies we had to contend with.

    We had some crazy moves and pushes, but it just got so outnumbered we had to go in there. I know a handful of pugs showed up at some point, but most of them died. Like the Son of Meridia in your screenshot there, not a DR member, dunno who that is.

    Also, dont forget that this whole time we are screwing around at the farm another full raid of DC was hitting bleakers behind our lines and one of the times we wiped out we had to go through that hot mess too. between that east wall and bleakers the whole field was just DC everywhere ya would turn.
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    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
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  • Barlthump
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    NBrookus wrote: »
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    Was fun till you started tower farming, but the lag was pretty bad. I thought the numbers actually at the farm were fairly even. Players stealthed up on the walls watching don't really count.

    (No making fun of my tank, it was only her second night in Cyrodiil.)

    Sssh don't invoke the zerg gods. They were 5 groups of 18 each. That ain't zerg
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    GAWD THE HORDE is in the eye of the beholder.

    Ran with 6 tonight, decided to respond to a flag flipped at aleswell farm.

    Holy mother of god what did I find! 2 raids? more like 3 raids of EP, completely discombobulated, just a mass of hell lag came off that flag. It was just a sea of red.


    100% accurate, right? B)


    Anywho... mad props to the small group of AD running last night against the purple tide. Bring friends.
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    What is the best solution? Do we balance the campaigns by encouraging folks to leave Had for TF? Or is better to bring groups from TF to Had? I personally think 1 organized DC guild from Had to TF would make it a three way race in TF. Not sure if any are willing.
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    I dont know if sending anyone to TF is a fair option. The server is laggy as hell.
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    A more consistent AD presence may be all that's needed here. "Mission Accomplished", per the thread' title. As ridiculous as the Ales farm conflagration was last night, I was not unhappy with the Red-Blue balance.
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    I don't know that AD has enough organized groups to spare one from TF and we aren't giving up Telel.
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    Send Telel to Haderus as an offering to The Lord.
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Send Telel to Haderus as an offering to The Lord.

    Why would you do that ? You know that's inviting 24 AD with pets too right ? The bombard spam is real with them . AOEs everywhere and camp after camp makes the nightmare that much longer ...
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