Personally, I think they need to take more time to BOTH listen to player suggestions and to check for bugs, exploits, and inbalances. There's still a lot of outcry about many of the changes being put in.

The hype is there and many players are excited for one thing or another. But none of us want more issues to be put into the game with another premature DLC release. Are we really sure Dark Brotherhood won't add more issues or lag to the world we know and love?

I think another month, even another week or two, would give everyone enough time to double and triple check that everything will work.

I really hope they do this release right. I don't want to see a clusterfudge of issues and outrage when this highly anticipated and desired DLC is released.

I say release it now, not because I think all the bugs are fixed but because at the rate they are re-nerfing stamina skills since the initial set of patch notes I'd like it released before I actually end up weaker than I am now and just have to keep quiet and salute all the glorious magicka builds as they streak by with their proxy dets and pull 60k dps in pve while we can't find groups who won't laugh at you for being a stamina build.

poisons are gunna be quite overkill, cost poisons specifically, and they broke 2 key feature of all sorcs, shields and surge.

Always more changes I want but overall am happy and excited to test out the changes and get immersed in Dark Brotherhood.

The purpose of PTS is simply to get feedback, fix a few bugs, tune what can be tuned, and anything else that does not require a lot simulation, QA, or developer time. It is not really a beta. I barely consider it to be a "release candidate". It is more like a preview.

I post this every time a DLC comes out. They could beta test it for an entire year and there is nothing they could do to replicate tens of thousands of people all trying out the DLC at once.

We live in a world of patches. Almost nothing that you'll buy any more won't have some sort of bugs to be ironed out post launch. Just accept it. This is not a ZOS issue. It's a technology issue.

Docmandu wrote: »

No matter what happens.. PR is done, flyers were send out, commercials made/scheduled, ... the DLC IS going to be released on the planned date.. buggy, broken or not.

Nothing new.. just look at the TG release.. many of us are still playing without sound half of the time.

Sound? What's that?

This is such a funny question because while I think the DB release will be a significantly more polished product than TG...they can only include so many changes in the game at a time.

I'm ready for them to release it and start working on race/name change, new 4-man content, balancing %health abilities, and whatever other ideas are on the horizon.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I post this every time a DLC comes out. They could beta test it for an entire year and there is nothing they could do to replicate tens of thousands of people all trying out the DLC at once.

We live in a world of patches. Almost nothing that you'll buy any more won't have some sort of bugs to be ironed out post launch. Just accept it. This is not a ZOS issue. It's a technology issue.

This is true, and I mostly agree.

But... When bugs are brought to the proper areas and are discussed with the masses, it is important to clean those issues up during beta. This dates back as long as the PTS has been around.

ThePonzzz wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I post this every time a DLC comes out. They could beta test it for an entire year and there is nothing they could do to replicate tens of thousands of people all trying out the DLC at once.

We live in a world of patches. Almost nothing that you'll buy any more won't have some sort of bugs to be ironed out post launch. Just accept it. This is not a ZOS issue. It's a technology issue.

This is true, and I mostly agree.

But... When bugs are brought to the proper areas and are discussed with the masses, it is important to clean those issues up during beta. This dates back as long as the PTS has been around.

Thats not always possible. And pretending as if it is just shows your level of ignorance regarding programming. Some of these problems will never have a fix, some will have a touchy fix that breaks every time something changes, some will be pretty benign and will unfortunately be placed on a list of known issues that theyll get around to when they can.

I personally wish theyd patch more often. But thats a decision thats not being made on the developers level but the managements.

Good ol' excuse: "If there are bugs on the live servers, it is because we couldn't anticipate/replicate them on the test servers."

The DLC itself - area, quests, npcs - is pretty much ready. It doesn't have nearly as many bugs as the Thieves Guild had on release. In fact, DB was closer to being "ready for live" on the first week of testing than TG was upon actually reaching the live servers.

However...

Many changes made to the base game, especially regarding classes and the addition to the poison system, could use a little more testing time before reaching live. And a lot more tweaking, too.

Impossible to give it a thorough going over with the paltry number of people on PTS. Doubly so in PVP where it is hard to find enough people for a decent battle. If you care about the massive change coming to ESO, get over to PTS, help test, and give your feedback on the Public Test Server forum.

If not, don't come whining later about changes and bugs you don't like.