Volkodav wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

Wolfshead wrote: »

One thing people keep forgett is that as Smileybones say "What people need to understand is that people with limited playtime are a big part of playerbase now and this have many consequences." and which many "pro player" keep forgett which is are even more import is that the so call "casual gamers" is the one the normal spend more money in game like ESO.

Sure a "casual gamers" have limited playtime but it normal have to do with that work and therefore can keep spend more money on buy thing in crown store.

I can say i went from pro gamer in mmo to a casual gamer in mmo for back in -99 to -08 at the end of The Burning Crusade (WoW 1st expansion) i play between 8 to 16 hours all most very day back then i have only parttime jobs and no girlfriend but somewhere in The Burning Crusade i meet my girl of my dream which im live with now and but by that time i was so hook on play so it was more import them anything else almost i would say i was addiction to playing mmo.

But my girlfriend help out off it and today i have fulltime job and both me and my girlfriend basically only play few hours on weekend if we have time for it but i guess my point is that even pro gamer that play mmo can trun in to addiction for you only want to be best and have best item and honest i would not recommend spend so much time with one game.

I would say it is way better to be a "casual gamer" then a "pro gamer" for get more out of life

Volkodav wrote: »

BlitzGirl41 wrote: »

Ah, yes, this topic... In every gaming forum I frequent, be it the Bethesda or Halo forums, this always pops up.

Even if the terms "hardcore" and "casual" are not necessarily negative, it is unfortunate that plenty of people out there truly do use such terms as derogatory insults - "casual" more often than any other label, I've noticed. In the end, the terms are only what you define them as.

Personally, I consider myself a casual gamer, and I am not embarrassed to admit it. Mostly because I do not see anything negative about being casual. I don't have the free time to put hours into a game, and therefore I don't go around running dungeons or doing PvP, because those things take more time than going about questing. As many other people have pointed out, for those of us who do consider ourselves "casuals", gaming is a means to relax after the end of a long day of work or school.

That being said, I don't agree with people wanting to force the developers to make a game insanely easy, even if I struggle with some things in games at times. There needs to be a balance.

I understand that you consider yourself casual.Cool.
However,what would you call the person who plays every day for several hours,even up to five? Ones who arent into PvP,and just play that long because they have the time and get lost in the gameplay?
There should be a name for us,..since we dont fit the term "casual" in that we play a lot of our time.
(not being snarky,just wondering. I promise)

You need to break casual and hardcore down into two elements.
Mindset & hours logged

You can be casual or hardcore at either.
I'm hardcore mindset, casual hours
Your casual mindset, hardcore hours

Hallothiel and I have decided we are "Regular Gamers".Dont like the term casual,so we're going for a better term.
I have tons of hours to play,and do so every day.
So what would that make me going by your ideas?

Wolfshead wrote: »

@Guppet

Mindset & hours logged is not everything when you talk about a casual gamer and hardcore gamer beside true is that most time that casual gamer do tend to spend more money in game shop in game like this and also most of time the casual gamer are the biggest % of playerbase and hardcore player is smallest % of playerbase.

And also most of those hardcore player im talk and which i count myself which was active in begin off 2000 have more or less grow up and move on by that i mean the have familys, jobs and so on.

Also if you read my hold post if you play to much game like this can be very very addiction off them if dont have much else in your life.