GivvumBoane wrote: »

How would it look with impenetrable on the heavy?

after 15,000 resist, impen provides more mitigation, your question is very valid indeed

I would think heavy armor and medium armor sets equally traited and improved to the same level, no buffs, heavy would be more resistant. I think that medium is preferred for resource management and dodging is better than absorbing. Just my take on it.

EquinoxS wrote: »

Did he crit the heavy? Did he crit the medium.

Should have tested crit and non crit on both armours...

Appears to only be one hit each. At v16 I think his surprise attack had a reasonably decent chance of crit it's possible both hits were crits. My v13 has a 60% crit chance without crunching numbers.

Ok so after reading your comments, its clear to see that your test is invalid.

To conduct a conclusive test it would imply that you were testing 2 equal sets of armor one in Heavy one in Medium both with the same traits, temper and level quality.

What you effectively tested was a potato vs an onion and in know way could you possibly say that heavy armor is useless.

If you wanted to make a conclusive test I would suggest making a heavy armor set of hundings with impen and run your test again to get a conclusive answer in which I'm pretty sure that you would have more resistances on your heavy armor.

if your unwilling to run a comparable test then please refrain from asking questions such as " why is Heavy so useless "

Dang, now what will I do with my 3,000 Rubidite Ingots?

CasNation wrote: »

While I somewhat agree with the posts questioning the validity of the actual test, I believe the point the OP is trying to make is that simply by using the Impen trait, medium provides better resistances (to crits) compared to heavy armor as a base. As a point of comparison, medium brings damage and sustain built in, while heavy armor needs to compensate by using traits like divines or infused paired with the appropriate Mundus stones to achieve a remotely similar effect.

I understand where your coming from however the issue here is the test.

If you was comparing damage taken in the respective test then what the OP was failing to mention / or did not test was base damage taken. In which case the OP would have taken less damage in heavy armor due to higher mitigation.

the fact is that heavy armor dose not reduce damage dealt by critical hits and even in 7 Heavy you still have 0 critical resistances.

the test conducted was that he took less damage on a critical when wearing a medium set with impen which the trait is designed to do.

The Issue is that the OP would have taken a higher amount of damage from non critical damage. and over a sustained fight taken more damage ( overall ) unless he was facing an opponent running a damage build based off of critical hits and damage.

Divines is not in and of itself a defensive trait.

With 7 divines you can have 2k armor, or 2k spell resist, or 2k health, or 320 stamina recovery, or 18.3% crit damage, or 213 weapon damage, or 17% crit....

Oh, and you can go 8 divines with a shield.

Now use the twice born star set with all divines in heavy armor and you can double up.

See where I am going with this?

Reinforced armour master is the way to go. Much better flat out max resistance. Go 8pc with a shield. Tanky as. With the right cp the shield alone gives 3.5k armor, use that for maxing out to 35k res with immovable and then use cp to max out crit reduction. Far tankier for pvp.

GivvumBoane wrote: »

A test should be controlled and results must be able to be replicated. If it's about resource management, then it becomes a play style preference issue. You can't take your favorite pvp medium set and run it against some random heavy stuff thrown together. It loads the test and skews the results

I used 5x impenetrable hunding medium vs 5x heavy armor master divine. It's wasn't thrown together. One is my tanking pve set and the other is my medium pvp.