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Nerf nightblade gap closer
Avenias
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Gap closures should not be used as a primary source of dps, it should only be used as a gap closure. Either nerf the damage significantly or increase its cost significantly.
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✭✭Already done as of last patch on pts so be patient....plus when you get a random snare from nowhere you know what to do......block?PC Master Race
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rotaugen454✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nerf all the things! Maybe if they just gave everyone the same one skill and weapons only did one HP damage, then we could stop with the nerf calls."Get off my lawn!"11 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭...Why dont just remove nb class? Everyday somebody jumps with something against nbs...
Depressing. Dude I have an stamblade,a magblade,an stamplar,an stamknight, a magsorc...why dont you just reroll and test other builds and classes instead of wanting to eliminate all the purposes of a class?? Plus they are nerfing nb gap closer and every update they nerf nbs.
What is this madness? Then remove 2handed too(for example)...
Edited by RazielSR on May 17, 2016 2:48PM10 -
Danksta✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Or just make it so they can't be used at point blank range, similar to crit rush, making it harder to spam.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA6 -
Avenias✭✭✭✭...Why dont just remove nb class? Everyday somebody jumps with something against nbs...
Depressing. Dude I have an stamblade,a magblade,an stamplar,an stamknight, a magsorc...why dont you just reroll and test other builds and classes instead of wanting to eliminate all the purposes of a class?? Plus they are nerfing nb gap closer and every update they nerf nbs.
What is this madness? Then remove 2handed too(for example)...
Because gap closures are not meant to be spammed as a primary source of dps.2 -
shadow071179✭✭✭Just get better at playing the Game instead of griping about it.
There are tons of ways to protect yourself vs NB. Go and learn them.
Edited for vularity.Edited by ZOS_DaryaK on May 17, 2016 4:33PM7 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭...Why dont just remove nb class? Everyday somebody jumps with something against nbs...
Depressing. Dude I have an stamblade,a magblade,an stamplar,an stamknight, a magsorc...why dont you just reroll and test other builds and classes instead of wanting to eliminate all the purposes of a class?? Plus they are nerfing nb gap closer and every update they nerf nbs.
What is this madness? Then remove 2handed too(for example)...
Because gap closures are not meant to be spammed as a primary source of dps.
Then some other skills could be deleted or nerfed to the ground.All classes spam something. Is how the game works.
That is a whole game concept design not "nerf nbs" again.
If thats your main problem with the game now....
If its not the cloack,is the gap closer,the ganking,the ultimates...this...that...
Edited by RazielSR on May 17, 2016 3:07PM7 -
Sunburnt_Penguin✭✭✭✭✭If a StamDK (naming no names
) is dodge-rolling and shuffling whilst running in a circle around a tree of course I'm going to spAmbush. 3 -
Avenias✭✭✭✭...Why dont just remove nb class? Everyday somebody jumps with something against nbs...
Depressing. Dude I have an stamblade,a magblade,an stamplar,an stamknight, a magsorc...why dont you just reroll and test other builds and classes instead of wanting to eliminate all the purposes of a class?? Plus they are nerfing nb gap closer and every update they nerf nbs.
What is this madness? Then remove 2handed too(for example)...
Because gap closures are not meant to be spammed as a primary source of dps.
Then some other skills could be deleted.
That is a whole game concept design not "nerf nbs" again.
If thats your main problem with the game now....
If its not the cloack,is the gap closer,the ganking,the ultimates...this...that...
Not talking about other skills in this thread, just the gap closure. I repeat, gap closures should not be the primary source of dps.1 -
Avenias✭✭✭✭Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »If a StamDK (naming no names ) is dodge-rolling and shuffling whilst running in a circle around a tree of course I'm going to spAmbush.
That does not justify spamming a gap closure as your main dps source.0 -
LForce✭✭...Why dont just remove nb class? Everyday somebody jumps with something against nbs...
Depressing. Dude I have an stamblade,a magblade,an stamplar,an stamknight, a magsorc...why dont you just reroll and test other builds and classes instead of wanting to eliminate all the purposes of a class?? Plus they are nerfing nb gap closer and every update they nerf nbs.
What is this madness? Then remove 2handed too(for example)...
Because gap closures are not meant to be spammed as a primary source of dps.
Then some other skills could be deleted.
That is a whole game concept design not "nerf nbs" again.
If thats your main problem with the game now....
If its not the cloack,is the gap closer,the ganking,the ultimates...this...that...
Not talking about other skills in this thread, just the gap closure. I repeat, gap closures should not be the primary source of dps.
Let's remove all the weapons and play with wood sticks for melee and rocks for range.
[Minor edit to remove insulting content]
Edited by [Deleted User] on May 17, 2016 11:29PM3 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Then ESO should be remodeled to another game. The whole combat design is about spamming,gapclosingdpsing,ccing and escapes.
Not because of nbs...is because of the whole game.
You want the nb gap closer nerfed...ok...will be nerfed in the next dlc. But the whole story of this game will be always like that...like chasing shadows...cause the shadow caster is the game as a whole. It is what it is. Since dk reign in early access all has been a rollercoaster.
Point a to c,then b,then a again...then c...etcetc...Edited by RazielSR on May 17, 2016 3:18PM0 -
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Of course it does: the DK is trying to establish distance to gain advantage, I'm reducing distance to nullify that advantage.Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »If a StamDK (naming no names ) is dodge-rolling and shuffling whilst running in a circle around a tree of course I'm going to spAmbush.
That does not justify spamming a gap closure as your main dps source.
Why waste my resources on dodge-rolling, sprinting and using SAttack when a spAmbush is far more efficient?
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »
Of course it does: the DK is trying to establish distance to gain advantage, I'm reducing distance to nullify that advantage.Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »If a StamDK (naming no names ) is dodge-rolling and shuffling whilst running in a circle around a tree of course I'm going to spAmbush.
That does not justify spamming a gap closure as your main dps source.
Why waste my resources on dodge-rolling, sprinting and using SAttack when a spAmbush is far more efficient?Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »
Of course it does: the DK is trying to establish distance to gain advantage, I'm reducing distance to nullify that advantage.Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »If a StamDK (naming no names ) is dodge-rolling and shuffling whilst running in a circle around a tree of course I'm going to spAmbush.
That does not justify spamming a gap closure as your main dps source.
Why waste my resources on dodge-rolling, sprinting and using SAttack when a spAmbush is far more efficient?
True...as if he couldnt spam ccrootsnare boom wb
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khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭...Why dont just remove nb class? Everyday somebody jumps with something against nbs...
Depressing. Dude I have an stamblade,a magblade,an stamplar,an stamknight, a magsorc...why dont you just reroll and test other builds and classes instead of wanting to eliminate all the purposes of a class?? Plus they are nerfing nb gap closer and every update they nerf nbs.
What is this madness? Then remove 2handed too(for example)...
Because gap closures are not meant to be spammed as a primary source of dps.
Source of dps? Please. Ill gladly trade that for a real source of sustained dps on my stamblade.Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on May 17, 2016 3:23PMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ambush already gets a damage reduction on the PTS, prob due to the upcoming poisons. Stealth -> stronger Ambush -> Empower -> Poison kicks in -> Incapacitating Strike -> ...
Right now, it doesn't need anything else. Cuz you also have to consider the PvE side of things, where StamBlades are underperforming.
Right, now that I've said my piece, I'm gonna enjoy this anti-NB thread with my trusty ol' bucket of popcorn"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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Kungfu✭✭✭✭Sorry but if you died to ambush or lotus spam you could have been killed MUCH faster by a NB that knew what he / she was doing.
Either that or you're an angry sorc that couldn't get away with streak spam.
No.
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Averya_Teira✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_DaryaK wrote: »We've removed a few posts that were not contributing to this discussion.
Stop *** writting this when you edit threads.... This useless reply puts a big ol' red Z next to the thread and baits people to click for an actual dev/CM answer...
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This is why we need separate skills, traits, etc. for PvP and PvE. If something needs to be nerfed for PvP, they should be able to do it without harming PvE where there is no issue with the mentioned ability.Right now, it doesn't need anything else. Cuz you also have to consider the PvE side of things, where StamBlades are underperforming.
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✭✭✭✭✭cyclonus11 wrote: »
This is why we need separate skills, traits, etc. for PvP and PvE. If something needs to be nerfed for PvP, they should be able to do it without harming PvE where there is no issue with the mentioned ability.Right now, it doesn't need anything else. Cuz you also have to consider the PvE side of things, where StamBlades are underperforming.
I alrdy suggested many times for ZOS to use the Battle Spirit/Levelling in Cyrodiil for that. That the classes are made with PvE in mind, purely focused on that aspect so that Battle Spirit could be used to temp change skills & passives for the classes while the character is in Cyrodiil. Not just a general +5k HP and halving of everything, but class based changes specifically for PvP"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭✭✭✭I understand that some of you are terrible players that think Teleport Strike is a main source of DPS, but raging at forum admins is not really going to accomplish anything.3 -
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✭STOP SAYING "GAP CLOSURE".
It is a GAP CLOSER. A maneuver designed to "close the gap" between you and your target.
That's almost as bad as "supposably" and "for all intensive purposes".
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magnusthorek✭✭✭✭✭
✭milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »STOP SAYING "GAP CLOSURE".
It is a GAP CLOSER. A maneuver designed to "close the gap" between you and your target.
That's almost as bad as "supposably" and "for all intensive purposes".
I wouldn't bother, just laugh in silent. A smashing amount of players seems to be school runaways. And it's not even a matter of writing a correct English because even a machine translation would keep the wrong/unknown word "as is"
Wrong grammar, fine, it's acceptable. I'm not a native English speaker myself and unfortunately, I'm still human.
I've already seen "Knightblade", "Sorceror", "Malstrom Arena" and many other... "pearls"I am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
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Sweet Jesus, those make my head explode. LOL!magnusthorek wrote: »I wouldn't bother, just laugh in silent. A smashing amount of players seems to be school runaways. And it's not even a matter of writing a correct English because even a machine translation would keep the wrong/unknown word "as is"
Wrong grammar, fine, it's acceptable. I'm not a native English speaker myself and unfortunately, I'm still human.
I've already seen "Knightblade", "Sorceror", "Malstrom Arena" and many other... "pearls"
You're right, I should probably walk away. But the Grammar *** in me just CAN'T.0 -
Avenias✭✭✭✭Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »
Of course it does: the DK is trying to establish distance to gain advantage, I'm reducing distance to nullify that advantage.Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »If a StamDK (naming no names ) is dodge-rolling and shuffling whilst running in a circle around a tree of course I'm going to spAmbush.
That does not justify spamming a gap closure as your main dps source.
Why waste my resources on dodge-rolling, sprinting and using SAttack when a spAmbush is far more efficient?
The point blank spam makes it even worse. Ambush, lotus blade must be adjusted to require a distance. Its ridiculous to let a gap closure be spammed at point blank, when there is no gap to close!
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Lucky28✭✭✭✭✭
✭...Why dont just remove nb class? Everyday somebody jumps with something against nbs...
Depressing. Dude I have an stamblade,a magblade,an stamplar,an stamknight, a magsorc...why dont you just reroll and test other builds and classes instead of wanting to eliminate all the purposes of a class?? Plus they are nerfing nb gap closer and every update they nerf nbs.
What is this madness? Then remove 2handed too(for example)...
Because gap closures are not meant to be spammed as a primary source of dps.
since they removed the root anyone who spams ambush is little more than free AP. if you get killed by such players, nerfing it's not gonna fix your problem.Edited by Lucky28 on May 17, 2016 11:12PMInvictus0