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(VIDEO) Stamknights Strongest Setup In The Game?
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✭✭✭✭✭Just like every other recent MMO that's been released, if you're fighting a high healing class..you need a healing debuff.
In Templars case though it probably won't matter after the next patch, their house is going to be a fortress.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHYlIP00a14
It's the player, not the build. Here you see the very same templar versus another stamina DK.
Seems like I am getting whispers ingame from several people. Just to clarify, this is a relevant post. Why else would I post a stamdk vs magplar video in a stamdk vs magplar topic?
Not sure if you noticed, but the reason the Templar loses is because he gets the "glowing spear stuck in hand" animation that locks out all of your skills and renders you helpless, unless you happen to have a potion off CD you can use, since that will unstuck you.
So it is relevant if you are trying to show that Templar is still the buggiest class in the game.2 -
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✭Just like every other recent MMO that's been released, if you're fighting a high healing class..you need a healing debuff.
In Templars case though it probably won't matter after the next patch, their house is going to be a fortress.
Malubeth should just be converted into a major mending buff so you can't stack it. That way all classes can have major mending but dks and templars won't be able to push healing up through the roof.2 -
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Oh come on, Malubeth and major mending are in game since more than a year and templars always stacked them. It was no problem before but now it is? Since complaints started just recently...LegendaryMage wrote: »Just like every other recent MMO that's been released, if you're fighting a high healing class..you need a healing debuff.
In Templars case though it probably won't matter after the next patch, their house is going to be a fortress.
Malubeth should just be converted into a major mending buff so you can't stack it. That way all classes can have major mending but dks and templars won't be able to push healing up through the roof.
I dont get you, I dont get any of you.Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]4 -
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✭Also why should every class have major mending? Do all classes have cloak or streak or wings? No.
Quit it.Edited by Soris on May 16, 2016 3:40PMWelkynd [Templar/AD/EU]3 -
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Oh come on, Malubeth and major mending are in game since more than a year and templars always stacked them. It was no problem before but now it is? Since complaints started just recently...LegendaryMage wrote: »Just like every other recent MMO that's been released, if you're fighting a high healing class..you need a healing debuff.
In Templars case though it probably won't matter after the next patch, their house is going to be a fortress.
Malubeth should just be converted into a major mending buff so you can't stack it. That way all classes can have major mending but dks and templars won't be able to push healing up through the roof.
I dont get you, I dont get any of you.
I don't mind fighting people with malubeth, but if for some of them is too much healing - I guess they could make it so that the beam provides you with temporary major mending (which can be purged or moved out of). I personally always purge beams when I want to pressure someone who is using it.0 -
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Oh come on, Malubeth and major mending are in game since more than a year and templars always stacked them. It was no problem before but now it is? Since complaints started just recently...LegendaryMage wrote: »Just like every other recent MMO that's been released, if you're fighting a high healing class..you need a healing debuff.
In Templars case though it probably won't matter after the next patch, their house is going to be a fortress.
Malubeth should just be converted into a major mending buff so you can't stack it. That way all classes can have major mending but dks and templars won't be able to push healing up through the roof.
I dont get you, I dont get any of you.
Because back then damage was higher and now we have 50% mitigation from battle spirit.
Duels, 90% of the time are decided by landing a big burst, so it's not about the healing value, but ability to burst people down.
Malubeth is balanced open world, but 1v1 against another melee opponent while using a Templar or dk and you're basically begging for a never ending fight, which is what most duels turn into these days. Which is why I no longer enjoy it or participate in it.
Malubeth is just one thing though, there are plenty of things that ruin duels and make them never ending.
Before someone says that duels have been never ending since 1.4, yes, between two experienced and elite duelers the fights were very long. Now a days though it doesn't really take an elite dueler to draw out a fight.Edited by Sypher on May 16, 2016 6:48PMDC Dragonknight 'Sypher - AD Nightblade Sypher Ali - AD Sorcerer Sypher Sensei - EP Sorcerer Sypharian - DC Templar Ali Sypher
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✭✭Sweeps is skill that got insane buff, and i show you why in 4 steps:
1.Before Sweeps "buff": 40%
2.After Sweeps "buff", default: 35%
3.After Sweeps "buff"+Focused Healing: 35*0.25=43.75%
4.If you still don't understand why this is insane buff, here is comparison with other templar buffs from patchnotes:ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »- Radial Sweep: Increased the radius of this ability and its morphs to 6 meters from 5 meters.
- Radiant Ward (Sun Shield morph): Increased the shield strength bonus from this morph’s shield to 6% per enemy hit from 5%.
We can heal 5% less when use Sweeps, but after wasting same amount of mana on area of protection skill, we can heal not for 1% stronger but for 3%!!, this should be counted as triple buff.
Wait major mending modifies the % return of the skill and not the actual healing received and then also rounds off when it should round up?
That´s pretty solid - not.
It´s still a 7% increase in healing but it should be 9.x. Gotta love ZOS basic math skills.
Yeah it turns Dragons Blood into a heal for 42% of missing health which becomes 21% in Cyrodiil.0 -
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Oh come on, Malubeth and major mending are in game since more than a year and templars always stacked them. It was no problem before but now it is? Since complaints started just recently...LegendaryMage wrote: »Just like every other recent MMO that's been released, if you're fighting a high healing class..you need a healing debuff.
In Templars case though it probably won't matter after the next patch, their house is going to be a fortress.
Malubeth should just be converted into a major mending buff so you can't stack it. That way all classes can have major mending but dks and templars won't be able to push healing up through the roof.
I dont get you, I dont get any of you.
Because back then damage was higher and now we have 50% mitigation from battle spirit.
Duels, 90% of the time are decided by landing a big burst, so it's not about the healing value, but ability to burst people down.
Malubeth is balanced open world, but 1v1 against another melee opponent while using a Templar or dk and you're basically begging for a never ending fight, which is what most duels turn into these days. Which is why I no longer enjoy it or participate in it.
Malubeth is just one thing though, there are plenty of things that ruin duels and make them never ending.
Before someone says that duels have been never ending since 1.4, yes, between two experienced and elite duelers the fights were very long. Now a days though it doesn't really take an elite dueler to draw out a fight.
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✭Anytime I play a magplar I get rekt with wrecking blow, I knows it's a l2p issue but I just can never avoid the constant barrage of them
Its not you its WB and im willing to say WB was the #1 cause of death for all magicka builds, especially Magplar and MagDK.3 -
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✭✭✭✭LegendaryMage wrote: »Just like every other recent MMO that's been released, if you're fighting a high healing class..you need a healing debuff.
In Templars case though it probably won't matter after the next patch, their house is going to be a fortress.
Malubeth should just be converted into a major mending buff so you can't stack it. That way all classes can have major mending but dks and templars won't be able to push healing up through the roof.
Eh, various builds/classes have great synergy with certain sets. If we are going to target Templar and DK, we might as well target everybody. We can take all of the sets that add damage like spell power cure, alchemist, molag kena, ect and make them major sorcery? We can take engine guardian and all of the various sustain sets and make them grant major buffs for stamina/magicka recovery.Edited by timidobserver on May 16, 2016 9:31PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
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LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭timidobserver wrote: »Eh, various builds/classes have great synergy with certain sets. If we are going to target Templar and DK, we might as well target everybody. We can take all of the sets that add damage like spell power cure, alchemist, molag kena, ect and make them major sorcery? We can take engine guardian and all of the various sustain sets and make them grant major buffs for stamina/magicka recovery.
I would say that boosting healing taken through the roof is not a great synergy, it's totally OP and promotes endless fights. Getting rid of these cheesy tactics one by one is what will make the game better in the long run and promote higher quality fights, be it 20vs20 or 5vs5 or 1vs1 etc.
Have you ever fought someone that takes little damage, does insane damage and has crazy healing capabilities (one vigor + rally and boom full hp just like that)? That kind of stuff shouldn't be possible, regardless of your class or build setup. Some of those great synergies are really killing balance and with the addition of new sets and more creative players, we will be seeing more of it rather than less.Edited by LegendaryMage on May 16, 2016 10:17PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭LegendaryMage wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Eh, various builds/classes have great synergy with certain sets. If we are going to target Templar and DK, we might as well target everybody. We can take all of the sets that add damage like spell power cure, alchemist, molag kena, ect and make them major sorcery? We can take engine guardian and all of the various sustain sets and make them grant major buffs for stamina/magicka recovery.
I would say that boosting healing taken through the roof is not a great synergy, it's totally OP and promotes endless fights. Getting rid of these cheesy tactics one by one is what will make the game better in the long run and promote higher quality fights, be it 20vs20 or 5vs5 or 1vs1 etc.
Have you ever fought someone that takes little damage, does insane damage and has crazy healing capabilities (one vigor + rally and boom full hp just like that)? That kind of stuff shouldn't be possible, regardless of your class or build setup. Some of those great synergies are really killing balance and with the addition of new sets and more creative players, we will be seeing more of it rather than less.
It's no more OP than making 70k telvar stones in 2 seconds off of alchemist prox tether bomb on a magiblade or insta bursting anyone that isn't stacking full impen and radiant magelight on an alchemist stamblade.
Insane damage, takes little damage, and has crazy healing? Honestly, I run into very few players like that, and when I do run into them it is related to shield stacking or shuffle stacking more so than self healing. Typically, if I run into someone that does insane damage, a solid hit on with a decent opener like prox+df+charge+dawnbreaker+radiant is enough to put them down unless they are shield stacking or shuffle stacking.
In small scale 60% poison debuffs should pretty much neutralize most of what you are complaining about anyway. Stam Dks have no easy way to cleanse debuffs.Edited by timidobserver on May 16, 2016 11:15PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)1 -
Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭Boredom- the main execute of the magika templar. Fight long enough to bore the opponent into a state of submission where he or she starts to question why they play.0 -
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✭✭Boredom- the main execute of the magika templar. Fight long enough to bore the opponent into a state of submission where he or she starts to question why they play.
The main execute of Leg Mage actually. I already find duels boring, but against him it's even worse, always a high sustain and defensive setup (I'm blaming the game, not the player)1 -
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✭✭If that reassures you, as a mag DK, I had a 20 minutes duel with a magblade yesterday.
Most builds fighting each other will end up in a draw those days, unless you have a stupidly conditional burst.
I don't even want to try fighting a mag sorc, I mean, the only way to have a chance (a tiny one) to kill a decent sorc as a mag DK is to time Proxy, meteor, have Burning embers and talons up, use fossilize as the meteor hits, and do a flame lash -> power lash while having major sorcery up on a very aggressive build, AND the shields mustn't be at max health.
I prefer to see 2 stam builds fighting, at least you don't need that much burst, and it's more aggressive.PC EU - Zahraji of the Void, aka "Kitty", the fluffiest salmon genocider in town.
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✭Boredom- the main execute of the magika templar. Fight long enough to bore the opponent into a state of submission where he or she starts to question why they play.
The main execute of Leg Mage actually. I already find duels boring, but against him it's even worse, always a high sustain and defensive setup (I'm blaming the game, not the player)
I'm no more boring than perma root mag dks.Edited by LegendaryMage on May 17, 2016 11:13AM0 -
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✭✭LegendaryMage wrote: »Boredom- the main execute of the magika templar. Fight long enough to bore the opponent into a state of submission where he or she starts to question why they play.
The main execute of Leg Mage actually. I already find duels boring, but against him it's even worse, always a high sustain and defensive setup (I'm blaming the game, not the player)
I'm no more boring than perma root mag dks.
Yes I'm probably very boring to fight, so i don't impose my boring playstyle to the duelling scene
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✭LegendaryMage wrote: »Boredom- the main execute of the magika templar. Fight long enough to bore the opponent into a state of submission where he or she starts to question why they play.
The main execute of Leg Mage actually. I already find duels boring, but against him it's even worse, always a high sustain and defensive setup (I'm blaming the game, not the player)
I'm no more boring than perma root mag dks.
Yes I'm probably very boring to fight, so i don't impose my boring playstyle to the duelling scene
Good for you, what do you want now, a cookie?
Please add something more constructive to the thread than personal jabs, we can settle that stuff in Cyrodiil if you want.
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✭✭Yes I'm probably very boring to fight, so i don't impose my boring playstyle to the duelling sceneLegendaryMage wrote: »Good for you, what do you want now, a cookie?
Please add something more constructive to the thread than personal jabs, we can settle that stuff in Cyrodiil if you want.
It's so cute that you two hate each other.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Dueling is not zerging and ZOS wants you to zerg. Stop breaking the game.
ZOS got me so disillusioned i find myself agreeing with almost every comment kris makes on pvp. What have i become.<Noricum>
I live. I die. I live again.
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Some people bloom later than others, no big deal.Lava_Croft wrote: »Dueling is not zerging and ZOS wants you to zerg. Stop breaking the game.
ZOS got me so disillusioned i find myself agreeing with almost every comment kris makes on pvp. What have i become.
That's the EU dueling scene for you. I want to pinch their cheeks and make them fresh lemonade.Yes I'm probably very boring to fight, so i don't impose my boring playstyle to the duelling sceneLegendaryMage wrote: »Good for you, what do you want now, a cookie?
Please add something more constructive to the thread than personal jabs, we can settle that stuff in Cyrodiil if you want.
It's so cute that you two hate each other.Edited by Lava_Croft on May 17, 2016 12:49PM3 -
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✭✭LegendaryMage wrote: »LegendaryMage wrote: »Boredom- the main execute of the magika templar. Fight long enough to bore the opponent into a state of submission where he or she starts to question why they play.
The main execute of Leg Mage actually. I already find duels boring, but against him it's even worse, always a high sustain and defensive setup (I'm blaming the game, not the player)
I'm no more boring than perma root mag dks.
Yes I'm probably very boring to fight, so i don't impose my boring playstyle to the duelling scene
Good for you, what do you want now, a cookie?
Please add something more constructive to the thread than personal jabs, we can settle that stuff in Cyrodiil if you want.
I literaly said in my first post I blamed the game, not the player. It's not a personnal jab to find duelling incredibly boring is it?
I apologize if you took it personally.
And yes, I'd like a cookie
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✭I literaly said in my first post I blamed the game, not the player.The main execute of Leg Mage actually.
Etaniel, every time you open your mouth you should be arrested for air pollution.
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✭✭LegendaryMage wrote: »
Are you denying that your playstyle is very defensive? Just writing your name somewhere is a personnal attack now?1
