ZOS, old players feel resentful...

Detector · May 2016

After DB-DLC I will be have 700 CP.
TG DLC - no increase Champion System cap.
DB DLC - no increase Champion System cap.
After DB next 3-4 months (without big update) - no increase Champion System cap.
No progress for my character! It's not OK...

One-Time Bonus. It's important to us that everyone feels like their investment in the Veteran Rank system is worthwhile during this system change. As such, we'll be granting a one-time bonus to those who have spent hours gaining Veteran Ranks. When Dark Brotherhood is released, you'll be awarded 2.5 Champion Points per Veteran Rank on your highest level character. For example, with a maximum level character you will be awarded 40 Champion Points. If you haven't gotten to Veteran Rank 16 yet, it'll be worth your while to do so before Dark Brotherhood is released to maximize your bonus! (c) ZOS

WHERE IS INCREASE CAP?!

lathbury · May 2016

Detector · May 2016

My donate - No ETA too.

notimetocare · May 2016

As someone playing since release: I don't give a sh** if they ever increase cap. I care about balance, not relying on numbers to keep me above everyone else. Make this opinion about yourself, not everyone.

Ackwalan · May 2016

ZOS can increase the CP cap without a DLC. When the average CP level hits whatever level they are waiting for, they can increase it without adding a whole new DLC.

Detector · May 2016

Ackwalan wrote: »

ZOS can increase the CP cap without a DLC. When the average CP level hits whatever level they are waiting for, they can increase it without adding a whole new DLC.

Nice joke.

lathbury · May 2016

Ackwalan wrote: »

ZOS can increase the CP cap without a DLC. When the average CP level hits whatever level they are waiting for, they can increase it without adding a whole new DLC.

With the rate of attrition on endgame players sick of lag, bugs, exploits, imbalance, content nerfs, rng and now (ironically) no cp cap increase this is a possibility

Gidorick · May 2016

I'm curious OP... what is your incentive to play ESO at all?

Buffler · May 2016

Detector wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

ZOS can increase the CP cap without a DLC. When the average CP level hits whatever level they are waiting for, they can increase it without adding a whole new DLC.

Nice joke.

Not a joke, Wrobel said exactly this in the last ESO live, that was the whole reason to seperate vet level and cp, and the eventual vet remova

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

A lot of old players are frustrated . It's true . The reward system of the brain gets clogged up with ??? marks when they're gaining a reward but they can't use it .

When my salt levels get noticeable high , I go to Walmart and do Tai-Chi by the shopping carts . That also clogs up the reward system of the brain so I re group and take a walk on the beach .

This game makes life confusing at times . Maybe they should raise CP .

Taleof2Cities · May 2016

I support a CP cap raise ...

I don't support another new complaint thread about it ...

Tryxus · May 2016

I'm fine with the cap at 501

Don't wanna keep grinding/playing to get to 3000+ CP Rank

Shader_Shibes · May 2016

Who cares. Like i have said, everything is face rollable atm, with the exception of vMoL. Players are complaining in bucket loads that content is too easy. They raise the cap, content becomes even easier, even more players will whine about the game being too easy.

nimander99 · May 2016

I'm an old player but I have intentionally delayed capping my CP's but I do understand the OP's frustration. The reason we haven't seen a cap increase yet is because they are working out all zone scaling (This is just my assumption), when they have sorted scaling, then we will see periodic CP increases and new mats etc.

Villious · May 2016

Ackwalan wrote: »

ZOS can increase the CP cap without a DLC. When the average CP level hits whatever level they are waiting for, they can increase it without adding a whole new DLC.

You mean they can actually do stuff without a DLC???
Who new... *shrug*

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

ZoS should of never added the stupid hard cap in the first place what they should of done was added a softcap where the moment you go over 501 you stop gaining enlightenment.

rotaugen454 · May 2016

I've been in since Beta, and I don't continue playing because I want more CP. I aim for it when possible, but it isn't my prime driver.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO · May 2016

Zos please do not ever increase the cap, seriously *** that grind. It seriously kills my desire to start the game up knowing I still got 200+ cps to go until I can truly compete. I can't think of any other mmo(besides runescape) where it takes this outrageously long to reach max level. I cannot even comprehend the insanity of complaining that they have not increased the cap yet, seriously NO. I grinded hours upon hours for the double xp week and didn't even manage to get 100cp in all that time. NOOO, please no more.

And speak for yourself, I played since beta and have absolutely no love for cp. "old players feel resentful" get out of here with that, its only you dude.

WldKarde · May 2016

When the Champ point system was enacted I was "given" 70 CP's

When DB drops I'll be "given" another 40 CP's

Right now I'm sitting at 582 CP's

Maybe I'm not at the cap after all...

Not to mention the fun I've had over the last 2+ years of playing ESO = no complaints from this player

I'm just glad to have a game that I still enjoy playing after all of this time...and if I can't spend any more CP's for a few more months...I guess I'll learn to live with the disappointment. Life is too short to worry about the small stuff.

Reverb · May 2016

I see OPs point. There needs to be continued character progression in an MMO. There also needs to be periodic new content. ESO largely failed at both in the first year on PC, now they are offering new content at a quick rate, but completely falling down on progression.

Some people disliked the vet ranks, and the rank increases, but it was a form of progression. CP supplemented that, and gave a new form of progression. The CP were capped, but ranks increased. That pissed a lot of people off, but it was still progression in the form of new levels and a new tier of gear.

Now there are no vet ranks and no CP cap increase. There is also no new end game PvE content to give anything in return to high level players. A huge chunk of the player base is going to feel let down by this.

IcyDeadPeople · May 2016

I'm an "old" player, been around since 2013 - in my case, I have zero desire to see CP cap raised anytime soon.

I get the feeling of progression from trying different builds in PVP and gradually improving my player skills in small scale battles over a long period of time. I don't get any feeling of progression from grinding for a few hours everytime the level cap increases, just a feeling of boredom.

Obviously, I realize level cap / gear level increases will be coming soon, but I'd still be content if they stayed at 160/501 for the next couple years. Much more interested in other changes like the new district captures in Imperial City, and future enhancements to Cyrodiil towns, PVP arenas etc.

bloodenragedb14_ESO · May 2016

perhaps not for the reason listed, but ive moved a bit past mere resentment

Wreuntzylla · May 2016

lathbury wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

ZOS can increase the CP cap without a DLC. When the average CP level hits whatever level they are waiting for, they can increase it without adding a whole new DLC.

With the rate of attrition on endgame players sick of lag, bugs, exploits, imbalance, content nerfs, rng and now (ironically) no cp cap increase this is a possibility

Part of the attrition being from the CP grind. Let me tell you, doing it on multiple accounts is eye opening. On one account I am just breaking the halfway point (251 CP) and it's alot like it was prior to patching in the "catchup" system because enlightenment is so limited.

Basically, this will be a problem until exp scrolls from the cash store do not affect CP,

SteveCampsOut · May 2016

Reverb wrote: »

I see OPs point. There needs to be continued character progression in an MMO. There also needs to be periodic new content. ESO largely failed at both in the first year on PC, now they are offering new content at a quick rate, but completely falling down on progression.

Not everyone agrees with you on this point. For everyone who wants to grind I can point to 5 more people who don't like grinding. For some of us it's about the journey, which is why I have 16 alts between the NA and EU servers. I enjoy the adventure of each alt I level up. I don't feel the need to become a GOD in a game that's already Faceroll easy. Jesus H Jellybeans people!

Nefas · May 2016

Yes people are frustrated, yes a lot of people left ESO but CP cap is NOT one of the actual problems that made/make people go "what am I doing here?"

notimetocare wrote: »

As someone playing since release: I don't give a sh** if they ever increase cap. I care about balance, not relying on numbers to keep me above everyone else. Make this opinion about yourself, not everyone.

This ^

Reverb · May 2016

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

I see OPs point. There needs to be continued character progression in an MMO. There also needs to be periodic new content. ESO largely failed at both in the first year on PC, now they are offering new content at a quick rate, but completely falling down on progression.

Not everyone agrees with you on this point. For everyone who wants to grind I can point to 5 more people who don't like grinding. For some of us it's about the journey, which is why I have 16 alts between the NA and EU servers. I enjoy the adventure of each alt I level up. I don't feel the need to become a GOD in a game that's already Faceroll easy. Jesus H Jellybeans people!

I don't know where you got the impression that I think grinding is progression. While you clearly equate the two, based on your response, I don't.

ParaNostram · May 2016

Meh, I've been playing since Beta. Me thinks OP doth protest too much.

Kildayen · May 2016

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

And speak for yourself, I played since beta and have absolutely no love for cp. "old players feel resentful" get out of here with that, its only you dude.

It's not only him, dude. Speak for yourself. I played since beta and have 555 CP at the moment without grinding. It isn't a grind. It just happens if you understand how to maximize your experience while playing. I don't see why ZOS is giving everyone a CP bonus if so many of us cant even take advantage of it. It is all about the casual player in this game. Thanks, Obama...

ToRelax · May 2016

Kildayen wrote: »

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

And speak for yourself, I played since beta and have absolutely no love for cp. "old players feel resentful" get out of here with that, its only you dude.

It's not only him, dude. Speak for yourself. I played since beta and have 555 CP at the moment without grinding. It isn't a grind. It just happens if you understand how to maximize your experience while playing. I don't see why ZOS is giving everyone a CP bonus if so many of us cant even take advantage of it. It is all about the casual player in this game. Thanks, Obama...

Ikr, casual players are the ones who don't need crutches and who always progress by honing their skills. Some players want vertical progression like CP, others don't. As for who falls in either of those groups - just speak for yourself.

Neophyte · May 2016

I support a champion point cap raise. ONLY IN PvE THO

Keep the cap at 501 in the current campaigns in cyrodill
Keep the non champion point available campaigns too

Tandor · May 2016

I've been playing since PC launch and have no problem with the way CP capping is being handled. I have no doubt the cap will be periodically raised but there's no reason to do it now and no matter how quickly or how often the cap is raised there will always be those clamoring for it to be done sooner and more often.