Do you think this game would of been better with just 1 main instance instead of 3?

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

That's the question, do you believe the game would of been better where instead of each alliance having their own instance of each zone they instead only had 1 main instance that was shared between all 3 alliances.

This way you could play with your friends from other alliances and choosing an alliance would only determine where you start the game and who you fight for in Cyrodiil, any levelling issues could be solved with optional battlescaling, also the game would feel much more alive and less of a ghost town and it would be easier to find groups and people to play alongside with, it may have also taken up less space on your HDD.

EDIT: I said "MAIN" instance meaning their would be other minor instances that you would be placed in if the main instance were full to avoid overcrowding.

bloodenragedb14_ESO · May 2016

i would suggest adding more options to the poll

they have enough lag in cyrodiil as it is though, making that gamewide woudl kill the game, lets not forget that making the zones cross faction would not only triple the lag, but it would make getting anything done overworld impossible, the population count for each zone would be insane, killing a dungeon boss would have huge lines, world bosses too, harvest nodes would be a complete rarity

its a nightmare waiting to happen

NewBlacksmurf · May 2016

Neither of these.

PvE could have been more open but there is a need for things to be split. Imagine everyone trying to do and share all the same zones.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · May 2016

I Like not being able to play with people from other alliances

Areas like mournhold would be a crash fest (it already is sometimes). Imagine 3 zones of people stacked in one spot spamming AoEs... Game would self destruct.

I'm not one of those spammers but they are in the same spot 24/7, it'd be inevitable.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

i would suggest adding more options to the poll

they have enough lag in cyrodiil as it is though, making that gamewide woudl kill the game, lets not forget that making the zones cross faction would not only triple the lag, but it would make getting anything done overworld impossible, the population count for each zone would be insane, killing a dungeon boss would have huge lines, world bosses too, harvest nodes would be a complete rarity

its a nightmare waiting to happen

Have you ever been to the veteran areas of your alliance? they are practically ghost towns other then maybe 1 or 2 people that's about it.

TheDarkShadow · May 2016

I Like not being able to play with people from other alliances

Some MMOs have multiple "layers", just like Cyrodiil campaign. You can still meet people of other alliances, but when 1 "layer" is near to full, people come later will be automatically put into the next layer. You can still travel to your friends by travel to their layer. It help reduce the lag, but still allow people from different alliance to meet each other. I believe I've seen this kind of layer in ESO earlier, but idk why I haven't seen it lately, except some quests process gate layers.
PS: also... I clickedthe wrong vote option

Xandryah · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

Totally Yes! It adds to immersion immensely and more options for designing content, more life above all; maybe there might be more tensions, but that again would add to immersion and to more feeling of belonging to a certain faction (patriotism if you want). The lack of a more limited combat system (built-system; we have "play as you like system") already destroys immersion and affiliation and combat balance/management , imo

Lenikus · May 2016

I Like not being able to play with people from other alliances

Starter zones would be killing grounds.
War is war, you know..

NativeJoe · May 2016

I Like not being able to play with people from other alliances

Would I like to play with other players. sure. I think there should be like a 4th server for multi-faction groups only. that way they can be on a seperate instance. But to jam everything together would create lag, Node scarcity, and probably cause cyrodil type of issues all over.

Tevalaur · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

The game needs instances, but being able to group with friends and run together in PvE despite their being in another alliance would have been nice.

If you were on separate instances at the time of grouping, the game could allow you to teleport to another group member at their nearest wayshrine just like when you join a party with someone in your own alliance currently.

In my opinion, cross-alliance grouping with guildmates is still far too limited at present. Separate instances that are not based on alliance would deal with issues like node scarcity or lag.

Sweetpea704 · May 2016

Yeah, because endless boss camping in delves and lag is my favorite! (Read with ironic tone.)

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

Tevalaur wrote: »

The game needs instances, but being able to group with friends and run together in PvE despite their being in another alliance would have been nice.

If you were on separate instances at the time of grouping, the game could allow you to teleport to another group member at their nearest wayshrine just like when you join a party with someone in your own alliance currently.

In my opinion, cross-alliance grouping with guildmates is still far too limited at present. Separate instances that are not based on alliance would deal with issues like node scarcity or lag.

^^ that is exactly what I mean.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

Sweetpea704 wrote: »

Yeah, because endless boss camping in delves and lag is my favorite! (Read with ironic tone.)

Did you read the top post at all?

"I said "MAIN" instance meaning their would be other minor instances that you would be placed in if the main instance were full to avoid overcrowding." also how would this camping be any different to what there is now?

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

EquinoxS wrote: »

Areas like mournhold would be a crash fest (it already is sometimes). Imagine 3 zones of people stacked in one spot spamming AoEs... Game would self destruct.

I'm not one of those spammers but they are in the same spot 24/7, it'd be inevitable.

how is this for an idea, how about make it so you cant use abilities while inside the city limits otherwise you get a bounty for disturbing the peace.

Elsterchen · May 2016

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

That's the question, do you believe the game would of been better where instead of each alliance having their own instance of each zone they instead only had 1 main instance that was shared between all 3 alliances.

Maybe I do not get the point of this. But, as far as i understand, there would not be a need to choose a fraction in the first place if this change was implemented. Right?

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

This way you could play with your friends from other alliances and choosing an alliance would only determine where you start the game and who you fight for in Cyrodiil,...

Hmm, you might have noticed that NPCs in quests always have the same monologues. However, the atmosphere created when playing through quests is not only determined by what is said, but also by when and sometimes by whom its said. The very same words trigger different "feelings" depending on the content/storyline played before. This is a vital mechanism of RP. This is the fundament for ADs loving their queen and EPs as well as Covenants want to fight for their king.

I might be wrong, but cutting down on fundamental choices changes the way TESO is experienced (for those who like to immerse in the game) leaving the remaining choices to be non-emotional and thereby imho purely cosmetic. (i.e. without any meaning/depth)

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

...any levelling issues could be solved with optional battlescaling,...

Why do you need battlescaling, if you can bring x friends to help?
What about those ppl that like and actively look for a challenge?
Do you mean optional as in "solo"/"on level"(whoose level if a group?)/"above level"(how much?)/"below level"?
... ?
Really, I do not get the logic of this. Please elaborate.

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

...also the game would feel much more alive and less of a ghost town and it would be easier to find groups and people to play alongside with, it may have also taken up less space on your HDD.

EDIT: I said "MAIN" instance meaning their would be other minor instances that you would be placed in if the main instance were full to avoid overcrowding.

I disagree strongly with the notion that "alive" = "many ppl in one place", but well, imho...
Disc space is a lol "argument", right?

Well, I am sry i wasn't able to vote... I hope you do understand my reasoning tho.

MasterSpatula · May 2016

Hey look, a biased poll where the option that disagrees with the OP's opinion is worded in a way that insults anyone who chooses it. Haven't seen one of those before!

Tandor · May 2016

I personally like being able to run through different content with several characters, and playing through PvE lore based on war between the alliances while accompanied by characters from those alliances would be complete nonsense, much like the poll.

notimetocare · May 2016

I Like not being able to play with people from other alliances

Biased poll is biased.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

notimetocare wrote: »

Biased poll is biased.

Yet you still chose 1 of the 2 options, you do realize that you didn't have to vote right?

Iggybot · May 2016

I think it's more complicated than that. Consider the dev team, I think they banked on making a good rvr daoc style game. Cyrodil didn't work out as they hoped due to lag while the player base became increasingly interested in pve, so they shifted resources to what the players were more into.

If they could remake the game now, I think they'd be better off with either 1 instance or more resources into making pvp more interesting and involved, but it's good to see they can change gears to make the best game with what they have available and listen to the players.

Tevalaur · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

Elsterchen wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

This way you could play with your friends from other alliances and choosing an alliance would only determine where you start the game and who you fight for in Cyrodiil,...

Hmm, you might have noticed that NPCs in quests always have the same monologues. However, the atmosphere created when playing through quests is not only determined by what is said, but also by when and sometimes by whom its said. The very same words trigger different "feelings" depending on the content/storyline played before. This is a vital mechanism of RP. This is the fundament for ADs loving their queen and EPs as well as Covenants want to fight for their king.

I might be wrong, but cutting down on fundamental choices changes the way TESO is experienced (for those who like to immerse in the game) leaving the remaining choices to be non-emotional and thereby imho purely cosmetic. (i.e. without any meaning/depth)

Actually, since I don't think the dialog changed regardless of whether you run a quest based on being DC vs being AD doing Cadwell's Gold, this comment doesn't seem based in any facts with how the game currently stands.

WalkingLegacy · May 2016

With Cadwells and faction swapping in Cyrodiil there is absolutely no reason (so far) for splitting the factions.

They should just let you pick where to level for your first 5 zones by picking the DC, EP, or AD areas.

Remove Cadwells so we can level an alt with some replayability value in a different starting area.

Make Cyrodiil a choice on which faction to fight for. Making it locked to account is the obvious choice, but maybe as a comprise to the open factions, give those who feel the need to switch allegiance an option to do so every 90 days or so. (Should be a meaningful amount of time)

Vaoh · May 2016

I Like not being able to play with people from other alliances

I don't like the way you phrased your "No" option. Anyway....

In an Elder Scrolls game, I don't really want some Orc in a dress running around killing stuff immediately. If chance has it that I find myself doing PvE content in a typical Elder Scrolls fashion, the less players the better. Personally, emptyish Vet zones are nice because they have minimal players.

Lots of harvest nodes, few dark anchors or bosses are killed, mobs are all alive without some massive group of piled, dead Dreugh from players grinding, etc.

If you want to play with players from another faction, use a different character or simply group up as usual. Lol.

Volkodav · May 2016

Sweetpea704 wrote: »

Yeah, because endless boss camping in delves and lag is my favorite! (Read with ironic tone.)

Perhaps if they made it so that once you killed a Boss,you got nothing for killing him again? No XP and no drops.This might help with the Boss camping.
(I'm speaking of each character.)

RedRoomGaming · May 2016

I Like not being able to play with people from other alliances

This game was advertised as a 3 alliance game. Why change it?

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

Volkodav wrote: »

Sweetpea704 wrote: »

Yeah, because endless boss camping in delves and lag is my favorite! (Read with ironic tone.)

Perhaps if they made it so that once you killed a Boss,you got nothing for killing him again? No XP and no drops.This might help with the Boss camping.
(I'm speaking of each character.)

they could make bosses not respawn for players who have already killed them, any other player near them would see them and could fight then but you wouldn't beable to see them nor attack them and vice versa.

RAGUNAnoOne · May 2016

Well it would be cool but at the same time how would levels be determined? and what about quests that are competitive IE if someone else gets to blank you are out of luck for a while. no I think the only zone that should have this is craglorn.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

This game would of been much better had it been made this way

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Well it would be cool but at the same time how would levels be determined? and what about quests that are competitive IE if someone else gets to blank you are out of luck for a while. no I think the only zone that should have this is craglorn.

What about Wrothgar? Hew's Bane and the Gold Coast?

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