Artis wrote: »

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

"If people could change everything about their character, they'd only ever need one!"

How is that a bad thing? A character is simply a player's avatar which he uses to explore the game world. I would like to play only one character and be able to try everything, just like in TES games.

Agree with you OP. And I was with since beta-tests and wrote about it in feedback. Let's hope they finally listen to us
Regarding race - they did remove softcaps and changed some passives, so our choice of race is already devalued. Pretty strange that they still didn't let us change the race for free or very cheap to make up for that.

Kammakazi wrote: »

I wish some choice in the real world wasn't permanent, but oh well, right?

If only in game we didn't have to do all that and it was possible not to make choices permanent so players don't suffer choice anxiety and don't regret their choices later for like the rest of their character's life (I obviously wont' reroll, my character has 16k+ achievement points).....

Oh wait, it is possible, because it's a computer game, not the real world.

Serenityx wrote: »

Class/race change will not and should not ever be implemented* in any MMO.

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

The one thing I absolutely hate in this game is how once you've made your character, there are a few crucial choices that you're not allowed to return to.

• You come to regret the race you've chosen later down the line? "reroll [Snip]".
• Your character has a goofy hairstyle? "Lol, just roll an alt".
• Your class gets screwed over in the most recent update and you want to play as a different one? "start a new character."
• Your character's name no longer appeals to you? "Just make a new one!"
• Your friends are all in a different alliance and you want to play with them outside of a group delve or trial? "REROLL!"

Every time someone suggests an alliance change, a class change, or even a race change or the ability to re-customise your character, they're pounced on by a ton of people telling them to reroll and move on.

"It's an MMO, people are supposed to have more than one character."

Who cares if it's an MMO? That doesn't automatically mean that it needs to be like every other MMO. Even if we're "supposed" to have more than one character, under no circumstances should it be mandatory to start an entirely new one in order to change just one thing about it.

So here, I've provided reasons why we should be allowed to change each aspect of our characters without being forced to reroll.

Appearance

If we want to change our character's name, hairstyle, or gender (things that don't affect gameplay in the slightest I might add) we should not be forced to start the whole game again purely so we can create the exact same character as our current one with one minor alteration.

Alliance

Being able to change a character's alliance cold turkey might be a little much, but there is no reason to be against cross-alliance play outside of dungeons.

With regards to Alliance, it might be difficult to implement cross-alliance play in all areas, but there have been literally tons of suggestions on the matter in these forums, and quite a few that I've seen would be preferable to what we have now ("Roll an alt or you'll only be able to play with your friends in a series of repetitive linear dungeons").

Oh, and to those idiots that keep whining "lorebreaking", don't forget that the Light of Meridia we currently have breaks the lore in exactly the same way. If your first reaction after reading that was to jump to the light's defense in anyway ("BUT IT'S MAGIC!!1!"), then I'd like to point out that all ZOS has to do to make cross-alliance play lore-friendly is to slap a similar explanation onto it. You don't like that, you can shut your hypocritical pie hole.

Race

Race shouldn't be too much of a stretch either. Regrettably, the people yelling "lorebreaking" are still present for this one, so I'll just quickly remind them that we live in a fantasy world where magic exists and move on. To those who think this would make the game unbalanced, it wouldn't. Race has relatively little impact on a character's playstyle, and people should be able to make their character any race they want it to be.

[bClass[/b]

This is the one people seem to find the most controversial as it has the biggest impact on gameplay. I've taken the time to summarise the biggest complaints here:

• It's lorebreaking
• It would unbalance the game, everyone would flock to the class that was deemed the best in that current update.
• I DON'T LIKE CHANGE!

For the group that use the first argument, no. We know next to nothing about these classes and how they get their abilities or where their magic comes from. Prior to this game, they did not exist in TES canon. Regarding these classes, there is no lore to break.

For the group that use the second argument, it's a valid concern, but we already have systems in place to allow players to rechoose their skill and attribute points. You can even cure Vampirism and Lycanthropy! These are both things things that NPCs in the TES universe fret over constantly, but the player is allowed to go back on a huge decision like this for the sake of convenience.
If I wanted I could switch from a dual wielding DPS to a staff wielding mage. It'd cost me a pretty penny in gold, but I'd certainly be able to do it. Considering we can already do this, why not go the extra mile and allow people to change classes?
In the event that everybody does flock to one class, it'd be because of a severe inbalance that would need addressing. If ZOS monitored the feature, they could use it to collect data and improve the game. Do you hear me? This could actually be a good thing!

For the group that use the third argument, you're in the wrong game. ESO is supposed to evolve, not stay in the same state forever. If it did, it'd get old and boring real fast.

"If people could change everything about their character, they'd only ever need one!"

Not true. I mean, it would be if changing these things was super easy, but it doesn't need to be. Putting any kind of difficulty and inconvenience in front of things like this will be enough to deter most players (i.e. the people who just want to abuse it) unless the thing they're looking to change is really important to them.

Conclusion

No choice regarding one's character should be 100% permanent. I don't believe that the game would be made inherently worse by at least making changes like this possible.
Instead of insisting that people reroll when they make a mistake during character creation, support them in their quest to attract ZOS' attention. In the end, it's up to them whether or not changes are made to the game.

[Edit for censor bypass]

Junkogen wrote: »

Also, in Skyrim you could change anything at any time on PC. You could even bring back dead NPCs. I don't understand the difference here. So what if people want to switch to FOTM. Maybe the devs shouldn't keep making seismic changes to classes, races, and abilities. This game bears little resemblance to the originally released game. Heck, they didn't have any stamina morphs for class abilities. Even racial passives were much different in some cases.

I just really don't understand people who are adamantly opposed to these options. It has nothing to do with you. Your characters stay exactly the same. Your lore is intact. Why do you feel the need to foist your gameplay on someone else?

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

While I like choice, I fear it will kill some of the diversity in the game... if it's easy everybody will race and class change to the current FoTM.. or that "perfect" race for a specific build.

So name, looks, hairstyle.. no problems at all.. and think most of that is coming with the barber shop.
Race change.. not a fan of it.. if it's added, make it require some effort imho.