(VIDEO) Stamknights Strongest Setup In The Game?

LegendaryMage · May 2016

A lot of people have been complaining about stam dks being the strongest setup in the game, at least for small scale or 1v1. Do you think it's true?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzfqjPSm4Xk

I hope you enjoy this little video!

Fluffy_Fr0zR · May 2016

Hey mum! Hey dad!

Nafirian · May 2016

Banter.

Jhunn · May 2016

Lmao.

holosoul · May 2016

This is the duel that never ends
Yes it goes on and on my friends
Some people ... started fighting it not knowing what it was
and they'll continue fighting it forever just because

Bdawwg · May 2016

Anytime I play a magplar I get rekt with wrecking blow, I knows it's a l2p issue but I just can never avoid the constant barrage of them

CyrusArya · May 2016

I think one video (or one picture) is never enough to make such definitive claims on. There's just too many variables and not enough context. But going off this video, neither one of you was able to kill the other and the DK took more damage than the Templar. This video doesn't show stam DK being any more OP than magicka Templar. Looked like an even match. Really, the only thing this video shows is how broken resource management is in this game.

For the record, in my personal experience, stam DK vs magicka Templar is a very even match and against equally skilled opponents goes 50/50.

Edit: There is the possibility that you are being sarcastic, in which case well done. Still, one video is not enough to base a conversation on.

ginoboehm · May 2016

i hope this thread doesn't degenerate again into some useless epen banter.... because i think it is very interesting to see a well played templar dueling a well played dk the negation of dots takes away a huge pressure point. fluffy was not close to dying when he ran away, i am not sure how the duel would have ended because you both seemed fine with resources and both had no real burst potential

Dyride · May 2016

Bdawwg wrote: »

Anytime I play a magplar I get rekt with wrecking blow, I knows it's a l2p issue but I just can never avoid the constant barrage of them

Step in towards your enemy rather than trying to backpedal.

Wollust · May 2016

Heh

Lokey0024 · May 2016

Your resources.....never move....

Derra · May 2016

Both don´t come close to killing each other.

So i guess lesson to learn is major mending op? Also i don´t think a dueling build would have rapid maneuver - just as food for thought.

Sypher · May 2016

I miss resource management.

Don't tell me the No-Cp campaign requires resource management. That's elementary compared to how it used to be.

Jaronking · May 2016

Wait if your a Magplar why are you using shuffle?

RoamingRiverElk · May 2016

Well, it was an interesting fight, but I understand why the dk (probably?) lost interest.

As for small scale outnumbered play, my personal choice is magicka sorc or stam dk.

Derra · May 2016

Sypher wrote: »

I miss resource management.

Don't tell me the No-Cp campaign requires resource management. That's elementary compared to how it used to be.

The no CP campaign requires none. Just like anything post 1.3 or 1.4? (the patch with new 5p set bonuses) did not require any resource management.
The only requirement is a little thought in your build (and maybe the correct race which is just sad).

Mojomonkeyman · May 2016

wtb softcaps.

Mumyo · May 2016

Fluffy_Fr0zR wrote: »

Hey mum! Hey dad!

Yes?

Mumyo · May 2016

Sypher wrote: »

I miss resource management.

Don't tell me the No-Cp campaign requires resource management. That's elementary compared to how it used to be.

Agreed but at least you have to care a little bit. U can't just spam stuff all day without taking care.
CP campaigns became a spamfestival

Derra wrote: »

Both don´t come close to killing each other.

So i guess lesson to learn is major mending op? Also i don´t think a dueling build would have rapid maneuver - just as food for thought.

Thats the thing, the tankiness is required for the frontliners in the open pvp but it screws duels. WTB reset to pre 1.6

Cinbri · May 2016

Derra wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

I miss resource management.

Don't tell me the No-Cp campaign requires resource management. That's elementary compared to how it used to be.

The no CP campaign requires none. Just like anything post 1.3 or 1.4? (the patch with new 5p set bonuses) did not require any resource management.
The only requirement is a little thought in your build (and maybe the correct race which is just sad).

Azura requires much more resource managment. It is only place where, since long time already, 90% of sorcs i fought died in CC coz they forgot time of using such things like Arena or Engine sets.

Derra · May 2016

Cinbri wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

I miss resource management.

Don't tell me the No-Cp campaign requires resource management. That's elementary compared to how it used to be.

The no CP campaign requires none. Just like anything post 1.3 or 1.4? (the patch with new 5p set bonuses) did not require any resource management.
The only requirement is a little thought in your build (and maybe the correct race which is just sad).

Azura requires much more resource managment. It is only place where, since long time already, 90% of sorcs i fought died in CC coz they forgot time of using such things like Arena or Engine sets.

That´s what i meant with putting thought into their build. It´s not like they don´t have the option to get enough stamreg - they´re just being stupid.

I´ve played my sorc there. The only thing killing me is shieldbreaker bc i simply can´t outheal it as it´s balanced for healing with championpoints.

Mumyo wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

I miss resource management.

Don't tell me the No-Cp campaign requires resource management. That's elementary compared to how it used to be.

Agreed but at least you have to care a little bit. U can't just spam stuff all day without taking care.
CP campaigns became a spamfestival

Derra wrote: »

Both don´t come close to killing each other.

So i guess lesson to learn is major mending op? Also i don´t think a dueling build would have rapid maneuver - just as food for thought.

Thats the thing, the tankiness is required for the frontliners in the open pvp but it screws duels. WTB reset to pre 1.6

Strange - i find the current dueling to be closest to 1.5 as it ever was since 1.6 release. Nobody dies anymore. Nobody died back then.

blabafat · May 2016

@Jaronking Shuffle is great even if you are a magic build. If you pay attention, you'll see that @LegendaryMage is using it after every CC break because he has the unchained passive, which reduces stamina cost of abilities by 80% for 3 seconds AFTER cc breaking.

zyk · May 2016

blabafat wrote: »

@Jaronking Shuffle is great even if you are a magic build. If you pay attention, you'll see that @LegendaryMage is using it after every CC break because he has the unchained passive, which reduces stamina cost of abilities by 80% for 3 seconds AFTER cc breaking.

shhhhhh!

KenaPKK · May 2016

I too think resource management is sorely lacking these days. When a sorc can duel forever and not run out of stamina, there is a problem, as Cinbri mentioned.

I also think giving anyone class access to Major Mending is a poor idea. It's like "hey use this skill from time to time, and you can have a permanent Malubeth proc."

KenaPKK · May 2016

I too think resource management is sorely lacking these days. When a sorc can duel forever and not run out of stamina, there is a problem, as Cinbri mentioned.

I also think giving anyone class access to Major Mending is a poor idea. It's like "hey use this skill from time to time, and you can have a permanent Malubeth proc."

Bdawwg · May 2016

Dyride wrote: »

Bdawwg wrote: »

Anytime I play a magplar I get rekt with wrecking blow, I knows it's a l2p issue but I just can never avoid the constant barrage of them

Step in towards your enemy rather than trying to backpedal.

Thanks for the advice I'll give it a try

Jaronking · May 2016

blabafat wrote: »

@Jaronking Shuffle is great even if you are a magic build. If you pay attention, you'll see that @LegendaryMage is using it after every CC break because he has the unchained passive, which reduces stamina cost of abilities by 80% for 3 seconds AFTER cc breaking.

Thank you @blabafat I didn't think of that.That's actually pretty clever I'll have to try that one.

Soris · May 2016

Derra wrote: »

Both don´t come close to killing each other.

So i guess lesson to learn is major mending op? Also i don´t think a dueling build would have rapid maneuver - just as food for thought.

I see this post quite often these days. I guess it's the new trend suing major mending after BOL.

And for the record both classes have that buff since beta, it only renamed as major mending in recent patch and actually nerfed for 5%.

Erondil · May 2016

Derra wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

I miss resource management.

Don't tell me the No-Cp campaign requires resource management. That's elementary compared to how it used to be.

The no CP campaign requires none. Just like anything post 1.3 or 1.4? (the patch with new 5p set bonuses) did not require any resource management.
The only requirement is a little thought in your build (and maybe the correct race which is just sad).

Azura requires much more resource managment. It is only place where, since long time already, 90% of sorcs i fought died in CC coz they forgot time of using such things like Arena or Engine sets.

That´s what i meant with putting thought into their build. It´s not like they don´t have the option to get enough stamreg - they´re just being stupid.

I´ve played my sorc there. The only thing killing me is shieldbreaker bc i simply can´t outheal it as it´s balanced for healing with championpoints.

Mumyo wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

I miss resource management.

Don't tell me the No-Cp campaign requires resource management. That's elementary compared to how it used to be.

Agreed but at least you have to care a little bit. U can't just spam stuff all day without taking care.
CP campaigns became a spamfestival

Derra wrote: »

Both don´t come close to killing each other.

So i guess lesson to learn is major mending op? Also i don´t think a dueling build would have rapid maneuver - just as food for thought.

Thats the thing, the tankiness is required for the frontliners in the open pvp but it screws duels. WTB reset to pre 1.6

Strange - i find the current dueling to be closest to 1.5 as it ever was since 1.6 release. Nobody dies anymore. Nobody died back then.

Bit off topic but I could count on 1 hand the amount of people with whom duels would last 10+ minutes (or ending up me dying) at the end of 1.5. Heal debuff stack op

Duels nowadays are boring af though, basically the only way to kill is one lucky burst with everything critting...

olsborg · May 2016

Magicka templar is virtually unkillable (with the right build) in 1v1, and they also pack a punch offencively. Buffs incoming too. Major mending should be available to every class.

Jaybe_Mawfaka · May 2016

Damn Mage, Back At It Again With The Shite Vids