The world as we know it

imapogostick · May 2016

Today I was looking at the map and I realised that this world is much larger than we thought. Let me explain. To the north you have polar ice caps but to the south there is no ice so either the world is much larger or we have a Sun on the southern side. Any ideas or opinions?

susmitds · May 2016

Which map? World?

imapogostick · May 2016

The elder scrolls world...duh?

Mordiez · May 2016

its like the end of hunter x hunter

DRXHarbinger · May 2016

Depends on the ration around the sun, axis and of course whether in this time frame if it's been discovered yet, for instance Antarctica was first sighted in only 1820 well after most of the world was colonised and plundered. Who knows maybe one day the nords will set sail and head south.

imapogostick · May 2016

Mordiez wrote: »

its like the end of hunter x hunter

Haven't seen it, care to explain?

imapogostick · May 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Depends on the ration around the sun, axis and of course whether in this time frame if it's been discovered yet, for instance Antarctica was first sighted in only 1820 well after most of the world was colonised and plundered. Who knows maybe one day the nords will set sail and head south.

Agreed but if there is a southern Sun that would have to throw off the axis of the world, but Antarctica was found way before 1820 if you look at other civilizations maps

Shinni · May 2016

Tamriel is only a continent not "the world".
South of Tamriel is (or was) the continent Aldmeris.

edit: not Alinor, i meant Aldmeris.

emily3989 · May 2016

Who says there is only 1 sun?

imapogostick · May 2016

Shinni wrote: »

Tamriel is only a continent not "the world".
South of Tamriel is the continent Alinor.

Thank you this is what I was looking for. So there is more out there

Valrien · May 2016

imapogostick wrote: »

Shinni wrote: »

Tamriel is only a continent not "the world".
South of Tamriel is the continent Alinor.

Thank you this is what I was looking for. So there is more out there

The_Lex · May 2016

Not sure about any of that BUT, have any of you seen the constellation map that displays when you look in an Elder Scroll (in the single player games)?

NO? Well, you should.

It's actually a constellation map of OUR real life southern hemisphere.

The_Lex · May 2016

If you really want your mind blown, study the parallel version of Tamriel called, Lyg. It is said that Lyg is on the opposite side of Nirn.

NateAssassin · May 2016

The_Patriarch wrote: »

If you really want your mind blown, study the parallel version of Tamriel called, Lyg. It is said that Lyg is on the opposite side of Nirn.

Isn't there supposed to be some mirrored version of Elsweyr on the moons if I remember correctly?

The_Lex · May 2016

NateAssassin wrote: »

The_Patriarch wrote: »

If you really want your mind blown, study the parallel version of Tamriel called, Lyg. It is said that Lyg is on the opposite side of Nirn.

Isn't there supposed to be some mirrored version of Elsweyr on the moons if I remember correctly?

I haven't heard that one but it wouldn't surprise me. I have, on the other hand, heard theories about Sovngarde being located on one of the moons, since a myth states that the moons are considered to be Lorkhan's/Shor's remains.

deleted008293 · May 2016

I have no idea if planet nirn was mapped anywhere even on a very small scale but what we know is that Tamriel is just a continent and many more continents may be out there... even bigger perhaps than Tamriel.

I'm confident we won't visit any other continent anytime soon in ESO especially the big one from the East. Maybe, just maybe we go to Atmora, Aldmeris, Pyandonea... and other small islands nearby, but a whole new continent? No way. Maybe that would be subject to another ESO game or a very large expansion pack that might be featured one day. For now lets visit Tamriel. There are tens of areas of interest where people can't wait to delve. There are many pockets to Oblivion too.

Trully amazing would be revisiting Vvardenfell. Maybe that area is saved for a small expansion pack featuring housing, barber shop, spellcrafting and underwater exploration.

The_Lex · May 2016

Of course, if you read out-of-game sources, you find this:

- The farther north you go, the slower time progresses. The frozen nature of Atmora is said to metaphorical for time standing still.
- The farther south you go, time speeds up.
- The far west, away from Tamriel, is the past
- The far east, away from Tamriel, is the future (which is why the Imperial mages in the expedition to Akavir in 3E could not communicate with their counterparts in Tamriel)
- Tamriel exists in the present at the normal speed of time.

. . . . if you believe in such things . . . .

deleted008293 · May 2016

Truly amazing lore. Maybe tectonic plates are moving at different speeds. Well in a fantasy universe everything can be made possible hehe. Anyway truly amazing and interesting concept. Lyg might be featuring dwemers or even scifi content. Who knows? Tbh sometimes secrets are better kept undiscovered. At the same time I would love to visit a dwemer world discover few of its secrets, travel aboard mighty airships. And who doesn't? But the best way for this story is to be made entirely separated from the storyline as we know it. Something like a side story about when dwemers were a mighty flourishing empire.

BlackEar · May 2016

You should hit up the origin stories. Interesting stuff

waterfairy · May 2016

The_Patriarch wrote: »

Not sure about any of that BUT, have any of you seen the constellation map that displays when you look in an Elder Scroll (in the single player games)?

NO? Well, you should.

It's actually a constellation map of OUR real life southern hemisphere.

It's been awhile but I'm pretty sure that it displays TES constellations like the Warrior, Tower, etc.

The_Lex · May 2016

Vigarr wrote: »

The_Patriarch wrote: »

Not sure about any of that BUT, have any of you seen the constellation map that displays when you look in an Elder Scroll (in the single player games)?

NO? Well, you should.

It's actually a constellation map of OUR real life southern hemisphere.

It's been awhile but I'm pretty sure that it displays TES constellations like the Warrior, Tower, etc.

Nope. I've read this from multiple sources, but the most accessible is from UESP Here and Here:

The background art of the Elder Scroll is a star map of Earth's southern polar region, containing within it most of the southern constellations. The more famous ones are Scorpius (tail part found at the left hand side), Crux (found at the lower center of the Scroll), and Eridanus (found at the top left hand side, with Achernar as the large patch).

nimander99 · May 2016

imapogostick wrote: »

Today I was looking at the map and I realised that this world is much larger than we thought. Let me explain. To the north you have polar ice caps but to the south there is no ice so either the world is much larger or we have a Sun on the southern side. Any ideas or opinions?

Actually everyone knows the world is flat and surrounded by a an ice wall a mile high, and on the other side of the ice wall? Well, infinite plane of course. Or we live in the eye of a blue eyed giant named Mutumba. Either or.

waterfairy · May 2016

The_Patriarch wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

The_Patriarch wrote: »

Not sure about any of that BUT, have any of you seen the constellation map that displays when you look in an Elder Scroll (in the single player games)?

NO? Well, you should.

It's actually a constellation map of OUR real life southern hemisphere.

It's been awhile but I'm pretty sure that it displays TES constellations like the Warrior, Tower, etc.

Nope. I've read this from multiple sources, but the most accessible is from UESP Here and Here:

The background art of the Elder Scroll is a star map of Earth's southern polar region, containing within it most of the southern constellations. The more famous ones are Scorpius (tail part found at the left hand side), Crux (found at the lower center of the Scroll), and Eridanus (found at the top left hand side, with Achernar as the large patch).

UESP is mostly official even though it's unofficial so I'm inclined to believe you...and here I thought I knew everything about Skyrim and a few years later I'm still discovering things.

Panth141 · May 2016

This is a great thread.

The lore in this game is brilliant - thanks for sharing a bit more

Asherons_Call · May 2016

Tamriel looks like a big island to me. Just one island on a planet

Gidorick · May 2016

This has always been my favorite map of Nirn... even if it is fan-made.

Gidorick · May 2016

Also... I have unrealistic hopes that ESO will let us travel more than just Tamriel. We only really have what the lore tells us is out there so there could very well be more that we are not aware of. One of the great things TES has done over the years is not reveal too much about the world of Nirn and, even though I would love them to, I don't really expect ZOS to reveal the mysteries that lie outside of Tamriel.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/149340/hopefully-someday-we-will-travel-all-of-nirn/p1

Gidorick wrote: »

I tend to "get ahead" of myself... so just file this under that category. Under the "pipe-dream" category also.

I, like many others, hope the B2P model affords ZOS enough resources to do the Elder Scrolls name justice with ESO. Zone updates need to come more frequently than once a year. There could easily be 25+ more zones to be released to fill out Tamriel. At 2 a year this would take a dozen years or so.

I think ZOS could be more ambitious than this... if they had the resources to be. Elder Scrolls Online could be the platform that opens up the entire world of Nirn for players.

Tamriel Unlimited: The story of Molag Bal's attempt to unite Tamriel and Coldharbour and the Faction War. Tamriel Unlimited could provide ESO with a decade worth of content over 25+ more zone releases.

Boxed Expansions

Tides of Pyandonea: A boxed expansion that introduces deep-sea gameplay to ESO. Player/Guild ships, ship to ship combat, and the island nation of Pyandonea could provide an additional year or so of content. Pyandonea, a continent south-east of Tamriel, could be released over 2 or 3 zone releases and could include the release of the additional Maormer race (sea elves).

Yokuda Reborn: Another boxed expansion that tells the story of the Redguards and explore how the island nation to the east of Tamriel was destroyed. It is said that Yokuda was sunk, but it could be just that it was destroyed by a tsunami at some point, thought to be lost under the waves. Yokuda could include another 2 or 3 zones, including the release of the Lefthanded Elves race.

The Elder Wood Expedition: A boxed expansion giving players access to Atmora, the frozen continent to the north of Tamriel. This expansion could explore the ancestors of Talos (Tiber Septim) and could have the player actually influencing the development of Atmora and could set things in motion that would eventually have Talos make his way to Tamriel. Atmora could be another 2-4 zones and could include the playable race of Atmorans, from which the Nords sprung.

Akavir Revealed: A boxed expansion that could take player to the second most populated continent of Nirn, Akavir. This expansion could very well include an additional 20+ zones and include the release of the Tsaesci serpent men, the Kamal snow demons, the Tang Mo ape men, and the Ka'Po'Tun dragon tiger men.

Return to Aldmeris: A boxed Expansion that could explore the continent from which both Men and Mer were born. Another 3 or 4 zones could be released as well another race. One idea would be that there was a clan of Aldmer that stayed on Aldmeris who evolved into not men or mer... but something else. Since so little is known about Aldmeris this could be a good opportunity for ZOS to introduce completely new lore to ESO.

DLC expansions outside of Tamriel

The Coral Kingdom: This could be a single release DLC expansion giving players the partially sunken nation of Thras between Tamriel and Yokuda, and a new playable race, the Sload and could introduce underwater content to ESO, if it's not already in ESO by this point. Since the Sload detest adventure the playable Sloads would have to be considered Sload outcasts and the story would have to reflect that.

The Kowtow of Roscrea: This could be a single (or multiple) zone DLC release of the island to the north of Tamriel but to the south of Atmora and could be the ideal location for the playable race of the yeti/bigfoot-like Imga.

Esroniet Unfurled: This single release DLC could give players the island of Esroniet and could give ZOS a chance to introduce a new playable never-before-seen race to Nirn. Perhaps a Skeever-esque race.

Unrest in Yneslea : This could explore the island of Yneslea and could introduce an Argonian ancestor that is more Hist than it is Argonian. A tree-lizard as a playable race. This could be a chance to explore the relationship between the Argonians and the Hist... it might be that they are more 'related' than we realize.

The Cathnoquey Consortium: This single release DLC would open up the island of Cathnoquey and could include the playable race of the Lilmothiit, who are related to the Kajhiit.

Altogether these releases would total 60+ expansions possible for ESO. Each one would be quite an undertaking and could give players more reasons to play ESO. ZOS would need to have multiple expansions in development at once and would have to release multiple expansions per year.

If 3 of these zones were released each year, the above concept with give ESO 20 years worth of content. It's pretty clear to see ZOS won't run out of content available to release for ESO anytime soon. This doesn't even include oblivion realms and alternate realities like Lyg.

Of course, ESO will never see all these expansions, but Nirn is a huge and mysterious place. Hopefully some day we will get to see at least some of the lands outside of Tamriel.

C0wrex · May 2016

@Gidorick Love the map! Also, read your post on the future content for ESO. Gotta say, I love the ideas you put up

I'd very much love to explore the other parts of our world once Tamriel is fully explorable (I hope it's seamless in the future - no loading screens in between zones)!

Gidorick · May 2016

C0wrex wrote: »

@Gidorick Love the map! Also, read your post on the future content for ESO. Gotta say, I love the ideas you put up I'd very much love to explore the other parts of our world once Tamriel is fully explorable (I hope it's seamless in the future - no loading screens in between zones)!

I think we had a very small chance at a seamless world being adied someday back when ESO was sub based. Now, I think it's pretty guaranteed not to happen, what with how DLCs work and all.

Enodoc · May 2016

Valrien wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

These maps are great, and definitely give a good idea of the layout of Nirn. The only thing I don't agree with is that they give a current, physical location for Aldmeris. Even if you put aside Kirkbridian lore like Nu-Mantia Intercept, which suggest that Aldmeris never existed, it has never had a defined location, and is considered mythical at best.

My personal preference for explaining it is that during the chaos of the Dawn Era, Aldmeris was shattered by the Ehlnofey wars. Parts of it were lost, while the rest formed into what is now Tamriel.