SERIOUSLY! FIX MAELSTROM!!!

gamerguy757 · May 2016

Hey guess what?! New bug!
1. On Spiral Shadows, the stun mechanic will not proc on freeing all the obelisks!
2. On any poison stage, random sliding after getting hit.
3. Crashing on several stages causing a loss in vitality.
4. Horrible drop rates.
5. Horrible frame rate lag
DID I LEAVE ANY OUT?!

sirrmattus · May 2016

lol.. im guessing you havent made it to stage 9. The bugfest

DDemon · May 2016

On point 2, what seemed to help for me is to stand absolutely still and not move from the spot you spawn in. This obviously only works if you are ranged. But since doing this I have not experienced any of the sliding anymore. I agree, it is very annoying.

As for your other points, I don't seem to be experiencing those issues. I stopped using the 64bit client though, as I found it to be far too buggy still, perhaps this could also explain your frame rate issues/crashes?

Dark_Aether · May 2016

Not a single weapon in the last 6 runs...

gamerguy757 · May 2016

Im on Xbox ONE. I never had these issues before either.
I'm on Spiral Shadows now on the final boss and throughout the whole stage, the obelisks have had no webs on them. But the stun mechanic won't proc, so the final boss will never stop attacking and getting stronger. I died on purpose to fix it, but it still will not proc. This is ridiculous. The only good thing with all these bugs is that no one is playing Maelstrom so I'm getting Rewards every week with a 440k score

Morbash · May 2016

6. The mobs in the last arena can collect the golden ghosts while they're still inside the portal animation.

Roymachine · May 2016

On Xbox One, can confirm the sliding on poison stages is happening for me too.

dereck_phantom · May 2016

Supersnake_Lx wrote: »

Not a single weapon in the last 6 runs...

This made me very discourage to even run vmsa I just want the bow ice staff axe and maul

leipatemeibbaa · May 2016

Maelstrom Arena is all about how lucky u r in order to get a good score like 520K +
I have been running it daliy, in the past 7 days no weapons at all, Thx to RNG

gamerguy757 · May 2016

So what constitutes a 500k+ score? I'm only using exactly 10 sigils the whole arena, and on average it takes me around 1 hour and 17 minutes to complete. Death wise i die around 2-4 times

Valrien · May 2016

gamerguy757 wrote: »

So what constitutes a 500k+ score? I'm only using exactly 10 sigils the whole arena, and on average it takes me around 1 hour and 17 minutes to complete. Death wise i die around 2-4 times

No or few (less than 10) sigils, about an hour to and hour and ten minutes, minimal deaths, like 5 or less.

Thybrinena · May 2016

The RNG in ESO is a fundamental flaw in the direction PvE is moving and I can't believe there are people in ZoS endorsing the extent of it.

Ghundy · May 2016

leipatemeibbaa wrote: »

Maelstrom Arena is all about how lucky u r in order to get a good score like 520K +
I have been running it daliy, in the past 7 days no weapons at all, Thx to RNG

I have seen @blabafat crank out 500k+ all the time, once he got it once he hasn't gone under it.

Valrien · May 2016

Ghundy wrote: »

leipatemeibbaa wrote: »

Maelstrom Arena is all about how lucky u r in order to get a good score like 520K +
I have been running it daliy, in the past 7 days no weapons at all, Thx to RNG

I have seen @blabafat crank out 500k+ all the time, once he got it once he hasn't gone under it.

Nothing about me?

DRXHarbinger · May 2016

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Im on Xbox ONE. I never had these issues before either.
I'm on Spiral Shadows now on the final boss and throughout the whole stage, the obelisks have had no webs on them. But the stun mechanic won't proc, so the final boss will never stop attacking and getting stronger. I died on purpose to fix it, but it still will not proc. This is ridiculous. The only good thing with all these bugs is that no one is playing Maelstrom so I'm getting Rewards every week with a 440k score

Point one. One of the posts will be covered with a Web but it's not visual. I've had this lately. Take the hoarvers over to all of them and kill them and watch one of them explode. Strange bug. Once it resets it'll go back to normal but the Web doesn't appear on one of them at times. Most notably if you die and dashboard. You'll poet back in with no webs present. I've reported it but been ignored and didn't get a response.

Caff32 · May 2016

Roymachine wrote: »

On Xbox One, can confirm the sliding on poison stages is happening for me too.

I've quit trying to make it through this stage. I make it here no problem then never make it past it cause I get frozen and slide from one side of the map to the other, and sometimes back, before getting the death recap screen. Impossible to complete.

gamerguy757 · May 2016

Valrien wrote: »

gamerguy757 wrote: »

So what constitutes a 500k+ score? I'm only using exactly 10 sigils the whole arena, and on average it takes me around 1 hour and 17 minutes to complete. Death wise i die around 2-4 times

No or few (less than 10) sigils, about an hour to and hour and ten minutes, minimal deaths, like 5 or less.

Dang...so I'm almost there....just need to beat it quicker. My average score is 420-440k. It still gets me around #50-70 on the weekly leaderboards but hey, it would be nice to see a 500k on my score

Valrien · May 2016

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

gamerguy757 wrote: »

So what constitutes a 500k+ score? I'm only using exactly 10 sigils the whole arena, and on average it takes me around 1 hour and 17 minutes to complete. Death wise i die around 2-4 times

No or few (less than 10) sigils, about an hour to and hour and ten minutes, minimal deaths, like 5 or less.

Dang...so I'm almost there....just need to beat it quicker. My average score is 420-440k. It still gets me around #50-70 on the weekly leaderboards but hey, it would be nice to see a 500k on my score

Work on using less sigils and your score will drastically improve. If you're a magicka Sorc I can give you a few tips.

gamerguy757 · May 2016

Yes I'm a magicka sorc. Normally I use the most sigils on Stage 5 (Frozen Blood). Normally I just use Defense and Power sigils on Round 3, 4 and Boss. Those archers and casters doing 10k damage each hit are just ridiculous

Valrien · May 2016

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Yes I'm a magicka sorc. Normally I use the most sigils on Stage 5 (Frozen Blood). Normally I just use Defense and Power sigils on Round 3, 4 and Boss. Those archers and casters doing 10k damage each hit are just ridiculous

Use this build:
2 Kena
5 Julianos
3 Willpower
Nirn Staff/Maelstrom Staff (Fire)
Torug's Dual Wield
5/1/1 favoring light

Bar 1: Force Pulse, Elemental Drain, Elemental Blockade, Shooting Star
Bar 2: Hardened Ward, Power Surge, Liquid Lightning, Energy Overload
Bar 3: " ", " ", " ", " "

Bound Aegis and Inner Light should be on all 3 bars.

The strategy is on priority mobs (also portals, because they have such low HP they burn almost as soon as they come out) lay down Elemental Blockade and Liquid Lightning and burn down with Force Pulse. Apply Elemental Drain to everything you can.

For Stage 8, put DoTs on one pillar, single target another one from across the stage then burn the third one after the first two are down. For everything else, just make sure Power Surge and Hardened Ward are up all of the time.

gamerguy757 · May 2016

This is my set up.
Exact same gear. Like literally exact.

Bar 1 (Nirnhoned Inferno OR Precise Maelstrom Inferno)
Endless Fury (helps with the bosses)
Crushing Shock
Frags
Inner Light
Hardened Ward

Bar 2 (Dual Wield Torugs Nirnhoned)
Streak
Hardened Ward
Harness Magicka
Boundless Storm
Power Surge

Overload Bar
Endless Fury
Hardened Ward
Inner Light
Boundless Storm
Power Surge

If i may explain my madness lol, I don't put Inner Light on the back bar only since it's only a slotted ability now. Also, I stopped using Aegis since the 8% only increased my shields by around 1500. Plus that slot can be used for something else.
I totally get the reasoning behind the wall and liquid, but the NPCs move around so freaking much that as soon as they get hit by the moves, they're out of the AoE.
I use the execute as it does help with management and gets powerful mobs down quickly.
I use crushing shock instead for the interrupt. On the bosses, archers and casters, this helps big time. And saves my butt many times.
Streak is for Rink, Umbrage, and Theatre.
Boundless Storm is for the speed and Kynlurkers that attack from stealth. With Storm up, they can't stun me.

I'm not criticizing your build at all bro. Not at all! I was just giving you mine as well.

Valrien · May 2016

gamerguy757 wrote: »

This is my set up.
Exact same gear. Like literally exact.

Bar 1 (Nirnhoned Inferno OR Precise Maelstrom Inferno)
Endless Fury (helps with the bosses)
Crushing Shock
Frags
Inner Light
Hardened Ward

Bar 2 (Dual Wield Torugs Nirnhoned)
Streak
Hardened Ward
Harness Magicka
Boundless Storm
Power Surge

Overload Bar
Endless Fury
Hardened Ward
Inner Light
Boundless Storm
Power Surge

If i may explain my madness lol, I don't put Inner Light on the back bar only since it's only a slotted ability now. Also, I stopped using Aegis since the 8% only increased my shields by around 1500. Plus that slot can be used for something else.
I totally get the reasoning behind the wall and liquid, but the NPCs move around so freaking much that as soon as they get hit by the moves, they're out of the AoE.
I use the execute as it does help with management and gets powerful mobs down quickly.
I use crushing shock instead for the interrupt. On the bosses, archers and casters, this helps big time. And saves my butt many times.
Streak is for Rink, Umbrage, and Theatre.
Boundless Storm is for the speed and Kynlurkers that attack from stealth. With Storm up, they can't stun me.

I'm not criticizing your build at all bro. Not at all! I was just giving you mine as well.

Criticisms help people improve

If I may, the arena is nothing but a DPS race. More magicka = more DPS, same reason I use Force Pulse over Crushing. Mobility isn't as necessary but I'll leave that alone. Your build works, but it's very defensive...which is fine, but I think you might get better results with a more offensive or hybridized approach.

Valrien · May 2016

Valrien wrote: »

gamerguy757 wrote: »

This is my set up.
Exact same gear. Like literally exact.

Bar 1 (Nirnhoned Inferno OR Precise Maelstrom Inferno)
Endless Fury (helps with the bosses)
Crushing Shock
Frags
Inner Light
Hardened Ward

Bar 2 (Dual Wield Torugs Nirnhoned)
Streak
Hardened Ward
Harness Magicka
Boundless Storm
Power Surge

Overload Bar
Endless Fury
Hardened Ward
Inner Light
Boundless Storm
Power Surge

If i may explain my madness lol, I don't put Inner Light on the back bar only since it's only a slotted ability now. Also, I stopped using Aegis since the 8% only increased my shields by around 1500. Plus that slot can be used for something else.
I totally get the reasoning behind the wall and liquid, but the NPCs move around so freaking much that as soon as they get hit by the moves, they're out of the AoE.
I use the execute as it does help with management and gets powerful mobs down quickly.
I use crushing shock instead for the interrupt. On the bosses, archers and casters, this helps big time. And saves my butt many times.
Streak is for Rink, Umbrage, and Theatre.
Boundless Storm is for the speed and Kynlurkers that attack from stealth. With Storm up, they can't stun me.

I'm not criticizing your build at all bro. Not at all! I was just giving you mine as well.

Criticisms help people improve

If I may, the arena is nothing but a DPS race. More magicka = more DPS, same reason I use Force Pulse over Crushing. Mobility isn't as necessary but I'll leave that alone. Your build works, but it's very defensive...which is fine, but I think you might get better results with a more offensive or hybridized approach.

also you could try through clannfear instead of Bound Aegis, works pretty well.

gamerguy757 · May 2016

Haha yeah I chose defensive only cause of the bosses interruptible moves that i messed up. The DPS I have is actually not too shabby, but I use the defensive only cause in those "OH CRAP" moments where I need a shield and a frag procs, and I can knock an enemy down and focus on another one. But Frozen blood is where I use my most sigils. Umbrage i've been getting better at. Now Umbrage is where Shock suffers since you don't interrupt the boss at risk of death. So he takes me a bit longer lol. But Umbrage is where I get screwed over. You know how many times I'm in a shielded NPC while the boss is screaming and, oh look! A mushroom decides to grow under my feet!

DRXHarbinger · May 2016

Use elemental drain over bound aegis. Faster burn than the 8% bonus.

Valrien · May 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Use elemental drain over bound aegis. Faster burn than the 8% bonus.

You can use both :P See post #20.

DangerMan · May 2016

ZOS way of making things hard is by increasing the health and number of enemies. That's all there is to Maelstrom Arena. Especially Frozen round.. Just spawn adds and who cares about the mechanics, right ZOS?

Literally, except for maybe one or two levels that actually require you to use mechanics to beat the boss, the whole of vMSA is just a glorified adds fest..

f047ys3v3n · May 2016

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Hey guess what?! New bug!
1. On Spiral Shadows, the stun mechanic will not proc on freeing all the obelisks!
2. On any poison stage, random sliding after getting hit.
3. Crashing on several stages causing a loss in vitality.
4. Horrible drop rates.
5. Horrible frame rate lag
DID I LEAVE ANY OUT?!

6. Overwhelmingly easier on 2 particular class / resource combinations than the other 4 to the point that the weekly's only fill for those 2 and those 2's scores are very good on the weekly board. Really, it is mostly that the last stage is very intolerant of melee builds especially with channeled skills.
7. The non weapons sets are bop and meh
8. It really takes a very long time for something that you can't play with friends. This is an MMO after all. Aint nobody got time to farm a solo instance for months because the drop rates are, as you said, terrible.

Suru · May 2016

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Hey guess what?! New bug!
1. On Spiral Shadows, the stun mechanic will not proc on freeing all the obelisks!
2. On any poison stage, random sliding after getting hit.
3. Crashing on several stages causing a loss in vitality.
4. Horrible drop rates.
5. Horrible frame rate lag
DID I LEAVE ANY OUT?!

I understand the issues with vMA, the only issue I have ever experienced that align with yours are the random sliding which I receive on the lamia round and frame rates. It usually happens when I am stunned before I roll dodge or multiple CC's happen at a weird time. Afterwards I can get the round done and its over with.

Every once in a while my FPS will drop, early on in vMA fps will be great, but by the time i get to the 9th round it can drop severely. I believe since the last patch for FPS dropping under 10 and not coming back, fixed a bunch of those issues. Have to go in there more to feel out the FPS issues if they are sill there. It always did help to restart eso fresh before I would start vMA anyways which could be reason for my lack of crashes.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · May 2016

The main bug I see is as follows, usually seems to happen around stage 5.

1. I notice that my weave becomes clunky. My staff will get caught halfway back, and I will often start to spin around and target something behind me, even though I have something else tab targeted in front of me.
2. After a while, my staff will no longer fire a light or heavy attack.
3. This kills my sustain, and usually I end up resorting to overload, but... my overload is a light attack so I am guessing its the same bug because nothing happens. It looks like I am punching the air with no sound. I try to block, press esc, tab, whatever, nothing fixes it except for a relog.
4. I eventually run out of resources and get overwhelmed because my DPS takes a huge hit.
5. I DIE!!!

This happened again to me yesterday in Stage 5, Round 3. (Sidebar: this was my first run of VMA in 3 weeks because I kept getting Sword and Shield from the weekly, and the lag was driving me crazy. Well, got the lag and another sword and board again yesterday. Seriously, does ZOS want us to stop playing?!?). I managed to clear that stage, but when the adds spawned on Round 4, my magic was tapped, and I couldnt overload, so I died. There went that run. I can beat the mechanics, but I cant beat the lag/bugs. I just once want to run this place with no lag to see if I can actually get the flawless title. As it stands now, there is no possible way. Why there is any lag whatsoever in a SOLO instance is beyond me. This is the first game I have ever seen lag outside of a multiplayer environment.

Also, I plan to rage on every VMA thread I see for the next month, so PLEASE, keep them coming.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · May 2016

Oh yeah, and the VMA loot system is the biggest pile of garbage I have ever encountered in any game I have ever played. Already been said, but Ill say it again. Despite the increased drop rates next patch, its about to get even worse. They are adding more traits to the loot table so it will be even harder to get what you want.