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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Magicka in Stamina builds...

888and888
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Hello,
I'm going to start a new character, a nightblade, so I've read a few posts to decide what kind of build adopt but I guess I'm missing something: most Stamina build use a lot magicka based skills and I really don't understand how they can be useful if you maximize stamina. As far as I know, skills using magicka derive their damage from mac magicka.
Could you help me understand?
Thanks!
  • wayfarerx
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    Look for utility skills that don't scale off the stat. Big ones for stamblades are: blur, fear, cloak, mark target, etc.
    @wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion
  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    You're correct, however, the Magicka abilities that Stamina NBs use aren't primarily used for damage but mainly for buffs.

    For example: I use Relentless Focus and Shadow Image which deal damage (obviously less than a Magicka build) but I'd still use these even if they dealt no damage whatsoever.
  • 888and888
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    Yeah, most of them are used as utility skills, except Veiled Strike, used, I've read, as main damage dealer in between weapon attacks. Anyway, thank you very much for your help!
  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    888and888 wrote: »
    Yeah, most of them are used as utility skills, except Veiled Strike, used, I've read, as main damage dealer in between weapon attacks. Anyway, thank you very much for your help!
    Ah, I'm not sure how many but some do start off as requiring Magicka and then you can morph to Stamina. Such as that.
  • DRXHarbinger
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    3 stam morphs, Killers Blade, Ambush and Sup Attack, power extraction just don't bother, it does not damage at all on a stam build, gives the buff but just don't waste your time with it, ambush gives you the 20% damage boost on Sup attack and no many adds will be around after that anyway. on magika one I use is fear in VMA, those gimpy NB's on round 9 try to sneak up on you and quickly scatter afterwards.
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  • emily3989
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    Power Extraction uses stamina to cast but does magika damage, go figure. Sap Essense is a must have if magika build.

    There is really good synergy with enough NB skills to make a very fun and straight forward stamina build.

    With reaper's mark and killer's blade your health should be fine, esp. if you are rocking Rally with 2hd.

    Stealth - reapers mark - rally - ambush - shadowy disguise - wrecking blow
    (you now have maj brutality, empower, and auto crit on your wrecking blow)
    Something should be dead, giving you a ton of health from reapers mark.
    Anything else you kill use killers blade as finisher for a ton of health return.

    Merc resolve on bar for inc. damage passive and for bosses an xp boost by activating.

    Magika build, it is more of a "which skills am I going to use" scenario since you have so many to choose from.

    Of course, PvP your choices should be different.
    Edited by emily3989 on May 5, 2016 2:03PM
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  • 888and888
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    To be honest I've spent some time researching about stamina and magicka but I couldn't find a reliable source, most threads say one thing and the exact opposite... Is there a site with in-depth and reliable information about combat system?
    BTW, the build I'm gonna try is this one, I guess it's pretty famous: NB Stam
    Edited by 888and888 on May 6, 2016 6:52PM
  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    888and888 wrote: »
    To be honest I've spent some time researching about stamina and magicka but I couldn't find a reliable source, most threads say one thing and the exact opposite... Is there a site with in-depth and reliable information about combat system?
    BTW, the build I'm gonna try is this one, I guess it's pretty famous: NB Stam
    Ignoring the Mork 5-piece trait, his stats don't look that good tbh.
  • 888and888
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    I'd appreciate any suggestion regarding good NB stam build to be used in Cyrodiil :)
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