Calling All DC and EP to Kick AD from Haderus

Humphie · May 2016

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Yesterday on Haderus was a lot of fun!

1. Really great fight outside Aleswell with around 8 members of K-Hole and a few scattered other DC players. Looking forward to more fights with them in the future.

You're - Invictus right?

That was really fun for us too - thankyou. Its really nice to see a good EP group on the server again, so please stick around. Hopefully over the weekend we can get a more balanced group on as if that encounter was anything to go on we will have some really memorable fights in the future.

That fight was really amazing and fun! Was a real challenge. (I am not invictus, just came along) And for you guys having only 8 in group...couldn't tell. To me it was like even numbers. Was really cool!

Delsskia · May 2016

There are some hilariously entertaining posts here, it's been a good read. I do think that a few people spend an awful lot of time and energy trying to justify their skewed points of view rather than trying to understand the realities, but everyone's got to be somewhere.

Gate camping? Yeah, I've seen it happen and I try to discourage it. I know that, regardless of what banner we fight for, we've all done it at one time or another but the better guilds and players don't do it. There's really nothing good that comes from being on either side of that. Gate camping isn't a good fight, it's just kicking someone while they're down.

Pushing a faction back to it's gates to take their scrolls and resources for the purpose of knocking them out of the lead on the scoreboard? I'm all for it, but once done, back off.

Zergs? They tend to just happen organically. Occasionally they happen because they're needed but I think that most often they happen because people just tend to go where the action is. My guild groups are usually around 8 - 12 people. Sometimes a few more and often times a few less. We play the map and the scoreboard and, in general, we're more successful than not. Sometimes we run into overwhelming opposition and call out for some help. Other times folks just show up because that's where something is happening. I can honestly say that it's very rare that anyone tries to rally the faction into a zerg. It's much more common to try to rally some folks to go to Keep A and Outpost B while our group goes for a tactical advantage somewhere else.

I will say that we've had some great fights. Many of them could have gone either way and several have been stalemates. Other times we've had our asses handed to us. My hat's off to those who don't spend their time whining and sending hate tells and just put up a good fight.

Now if we could just get ZOS to fix the Bombard and Shuffle bugs...

PrinceFabious · May 2016

Delsskia wrote: »

There are some hilariously entertaining posts here, it's been a good read. I do think that a few people spend an awful lot of time and energy trying to justify their skewed points of view rather than trying to understand the realities, but everyone's got to be somewhere.

Gate camping? Yeah, I've seen it happen and I try to discourage it. I know that, regardless of what banner we fight for, we've all done it at one time or another but the better guilds and players don't do it. There's really nothing good that comes from being on either side of that. Gate camping isn't a good fight, it's just kicking someone while they're down.

Pushing a faction back to it's gates to take their scrolls and resources for the purpose of knocking them out of the lead on the scoreboard? I'm all for it, but once done, back off.

Zergs? They tend to just happen organically. Occasionally they happen because they're needed but I think that most often they happen because people just tend to go where the action is. My guild groups are usually around 8 - 12 people. Sometimes a few more and often times a few less. We play the map and the scoreboard and, in general, we're more successful than not. Sometimes we run into overwhelming opposition and call out for some help. Other times folks just show up because that's where something is happening. I can honestly say that it's very rare that anyone tries to rally the faction into a zerg. It's much more common to try to rally some folks to go to Keep A and Outpost B while our group goes for a tactical advantage somewhere else.

I will say that we've had some great fights. Many of them could have gone either way and several have been stalemates. Other times we've had our asses handed to us. My hat's off to those who don't spend their time whining and sending hate tells and just put up a good fight.

Now if we could just get ZOS to fix the Bombard and Shuffle bugs...

Zergs dont happen "organically" its the concious decision to leave TF to pop lock AD side in haddg everynight. It doesnt just happen. It was a choice when decided to leave because EP was winning TF.

diskiukas · May 2016

Psilent wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

People need to understand last night 5/4 there was maybe 2 groups of AD actually fighting at keeps. I was leading a group of 12 to 14. The bars you all keep posting are the players in IC farming stones not playing on the map. This is not your fault and numbers are always hard to count when players are running around. This is a tech issue and to solve it IC needs to be split from Cryo. However that is another issue all together. EP zerged last night all over the map. The 30 or 40 AD players that were actually defending or trying to take stuff simply were outnumbered. My group constantly faced full RAID plus numbers at every turn.

I know you all think I'm crazy, probably am to be honest, but I was streaming for about 3 hours of the prime time fights. if you need the visual confirmation that EP knows only how to zerg / proxy / and hide behind LOS let me know I will be happy to YOUTUBE the evidence.

On further note. AD if you like the ability to farm inside IC then you need to pay the price of defending the campaign. IF you see the map flipping then crawl your butts out of the sewers and do your part to defend the map. If you see the message that a scroll has been taken, you are needed no matter what your level is. This is not an order or a condemnation for what or how or where you play your time, its about doing what is right for the alliance. AD has lost so many good leaders, its time new blood step up, but more importantly its time for AD to work together.

Tip for the day:
Raid is defined as 24 players
Group is defined as 4 players
TeamSpeak is a must if you don't have it get it.

What is wrong with groups using LoS to survive? Are groups supposed to just stand out in the open and eat the AD's siege guild's siege and die?

Yes, better to jump on the train and run in circles. So much fun for everyone.

Lore_lai · May 2016

The only reason EP wins in TF is because they cap the map when there is like 1 bar of pop on AD/DC (that's also the only time they can crown EMP too).

So much time on score evaluation with a capped map and no competition = score. GG.

Inarre · May 2016

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Where are the AD zergs? The answer is there aren't any.

This was the best post I have ever red (pun intended). Hats off to you my friend!

Anazasi · May 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Delsskia wrote: »

There are some hilariously entertaining posts here, it's been a good read. I do think that a few people spend an awful lot of time and energy trying to justify their skewed points of view rather than trying to understand the realities, but everyone's got to be somewhere.

Gate camping? Yeah, I've seen it happen and I try to discourage it. I know that, regardless of what banner we fight for, we've all done it at one time or another but the better guilds and players don't do it. There's really nothing good that comes from being on either side of that. Gate camping isn't a good fight, it's just kicking someone while they're down.

Pushing a faction back to it's gates to take their scrolls and resources for the purpose of knocking them out of the lead on the scoreboard? I'm all for it, but once done, back off.

Zergs? They tend to just happen organically. Occasionally they happen because they're needed but I think that most often they happen because people just tend to go where the action is. My guild groups are usually around 8 - 12 people. Sometimes a few more and often times a few less. We play the map and the scoreboard and, in general, we're more successful than not. Sometimes we run into overwhelming opposition and call out for some help. Other times folks just show up because that's where something is happening. I can honestly say that it's very rare that anyone tries to rally the faction into a zerg. It's much more common to try to rally some folks to go to Keep A and Outpost B while our group goes for a tactical advantage somewhere else.

I will say that we've had some great fights. Many of them could have gone either way and several have been stalemates. Other times we've had our asses handed to us. My hat's off to those who don't spend their time whining and sending hate tells and just put up a good fight.

Now if we could just get ZOS to fix the Bombard and Shuffle bugs...

Zergs dont happen "organically" its the concious decision to leave TF to pop lock AD side in haddg everynight. It doesnt just happen. It was a choice when decided to leave because EP was winning TF.

LOL EP the new Organic farmers of TF......

JDar · May 2016

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

The mentality of AD on Had and mentality of EP on TF durning off hours.

Nothing like stirring the pot for food for thought.

QFT

I recently said in zone chat I hate my fellow AD in Haderus as much as I hate EP in Trueflame, my home campaign.

Quit playing like scrubs, all of you!

h2ofr33k · May 2016

This forum post amuses me. Quite a few very valid points and exagerations from (from members of every faction). From all that I can see (as a PVP 'er who is out in Haderus during primetime the majority of nights) the entire server community contributes to the issues on Haderus

1. Learn to play. Strength in numbers is only as good as the application of that strength. I am not pointing fingers at anyone (other than myself and the inwardly pointed finger is very accurately pointed) bcause the only screen and keyboard / mouse I can comment on skill-wise is my own).That being said, EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IN THIS POST (NO MATTER THE THE TITAN SIZED BATTLE FIELD MONSTER YOU MAY BE) HAS THE CAPABILITY FOR IMPROVEMENT SOMEWHERE IN THEIR PLAYSTYLE / SKILLS.

2. A : Numbers. Are there generally more AD than EP in amy given battle? Yes. Is AD better organized than EP? Yes. Is either AD or DC better players over all? There are both good and bad players in each faction.
B : Can 60 Ad (which, yes does happen in a battle) be beaten by 30 EP? Yes, it that EP group plays well and sticks to the basics of PvP skills.

3 : Whiny *****es in the forums. Does exaggeration happen? Yes. Is the reality behind the exageration invalidated by the poorly execution of its communication? No, but it is harder to defend an exagerated truth.

4 : Night Capping. Different time zones will be able to play at different times in larger numbers. If a faction does not want to lose their keeps / emperorship after the majority of their player-base would not be on then its a fairly simple problem to remedy. Have players on that can hold the campaign. This goes for all factions.

However, unless you want to stunt the PvP on any given server after you night cap and take back all the scrolls DON'T GATE CAMP! This kills servers.

In summation, all factions gate camp, zerg with unreasonable numbers and contribute to the poor environment of PvP. It is a self-sustaining and self-debilitating situation in that best defense when your on the ropes is to rally the troops. That is the beat and worst part about ESO PvP. If you are in cyrodil every day, one thing that has not been said up to this point is that if you walk out onto that field of battle a complete noob (as I did 11 months ago) you will improve b/c of the sheer insanity (in the best way) that is PvP with this combat system. While I can't say I enjoy dieing, dieing certainly has shown me what I was doing wrong many a time so thank you (everyone) for being in Cyrodil and the many good battles. [EP : Seriously, work together more. There's no I in team but there is MEAT if you really suck at spelling! Dang, now I want a steak!]

Also PvP and paintball have many things in common. First and foremost, its all fun and games until anyones nuts become involved.

- Baron Grillz - v16 Templar - Darkest Requiem
- Alliance Rank 20

- Bunch of other toons that don't see enough time in Cyrodil to merit being named.

Lore_lai · May 2016

h2ofr33k wrote: »

4 : Night Capping. Different time zones will be able to play at different times in larger numbers. If a faction does not want to lose their keeps / emperorship after the majority of their player-base would not be on then its a fairly simple problem to remedy. Have players on that can hold the campaign. This goes for all factions.

Fair point, however, why would you (I mean a general "you" not you in particular

) play on a 1 bar pop map and cap it when there is little to no resistance, when there is, at the exact same time, another map that could provide competition?

h2ofr33k · May 2016

On my phone so I'm too lazy to copy and paste your ? Lore_lai but as someone who plays EST I rarely am on past 1:00 AM (gots to sleep and all that) and Haderus is usually plenty busy enough for me. I can only guess that they care not only about good fights but also the end outcome of said particular campaign (whichever campaign they are playing).

Also, if ones guild homes a campaign then one want to contribute to your guilds success and time zones may inflexibly prevent you from joining the main raid a good percentage of the time.

mchermie · May 2016

AD is winning this campaign now because of numbers. Nothing else. Take your pride in your numbers, because it has nothing to do with any kind of skill (solo/group/leading, you name it)
Classic Haderus: 1. DC gets outnumbered 2. AD gets outskilled (but thanks to all the "fixes" zos has made to this game, it doesnt matter how much you work. Numbers win anyways these days)

Telel · May 2016

mchermie wrote: »

AD is winning this campaign now because of numbers. Nothing else. Take your pride in your numbers, because it has nothing to do with any kind of skill (solo/group/leading, you name it)
Classic Haderus: 1. DC gets outnumbered 2. AD gets outskilled (but thanks to all the "fixes" zos has made to this game, it doesnt matter how much you work. Numbers win anyways these days)

Telel has an answer to this problem.

1) Re roll AD

2) Come to True flame and be on the side that is out numbered, lacks skill, needs group leaders, and is losing.

3) Lead PUGs.

4) Obtain true ultimate mediocrity!

Lyar09 · May 2016

Telel wrote: »

mchermie wrote: »

AD is winning this campaign now because of numbers. Nothing else. Take your pride in your numbers, because it has nothing to do with any kind of skill (solo/group/leading, you name it)
Classic Haderus: 1. DC gets outnumbered 2. AD gets outskilled (but thanks to all the "fixes" zos has made to this game, it doesnt matter how much you work. Numbers win anyways these days)

Telel has an answer to this problem.

1) Re roll AD

2) Come to True flame and be on the side that is out numbered, lacks skill, needs group leaders, and is losing.

3) Lead PUGs.

4) Obtain true ultimate mediocrity!

Telel you're slacking! This doesnt sound like Khajiit talk! So dissapointed

RinaldoGandolphi · May 2016

Ok I peeked into Had a few minutes ago for the first time in like a month and my god!

The AD Zerg there is real....that Zerg is larger then the old DC Zerg on Bloodthorn. that's just insane.

Distillateur · May 2016

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Distillateur · May 2016

Fun stuff!

Telel · May 2016

Lyar09 wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

mchermie wrote: »

AD is winning this campaign now because of numbers. Nothing else. Take your pride in your numbers, because it has nothing to do with any kind of skill (solo/group/leading, you name it)
Classic Haderus: 1. DC gets outnumbered 2. AD gets outskilled (but thanks to all the "fixes" zos has made to this game, it doesnt matter how much you work. Numbers win anyways these days)

Telel has an answer to this problem.

1) Re roll AD

2) Come to True flame and be on the side that is out numbered, lacks skill, needs group leaders, and is losing.

3) Lead PUGs.

4) Obtain true ultimate mediocrity!

Telel you're slacking! This doesnt sound like Khajiit talk! So dissapointed

This one tried to use the superior language of the non-khajiit so that it it simple enough for them to understand when humble khajiit speaks.

Rylana · May 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Ok I peeked into Had a few minutes ago for the first time in like a month and my god!

The AD Zerg there is real....that Zerg is larger then the old DC Zerg on Bloodthorn. that's just insane.

*snicker* as of this post, the AD zerg got rekt, lost the whole map, lolz

WuffyCerulei · May 2016

All these posts...what crap did I start >.>

Minnesinger · May 2016

Rylana wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Ok I peeked into Had a few minutes ago for the first time in like a month and my god!

The AD Zerg there is real....that Zerg is larger then the old DC Zerg on Bloodthorn. that's just insane.

*snicker* as of this post, the AD zerg got rekt, lost the whole map, lolz

The same as many times earlier, pvdoor feat. Checked the map and it is red. Not a single Ad to be seen.

Rylana · May 2016

Minnesinger wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Ok I peeked into Had a few minutes ago for the first time in like a month and my god!

The AD Zerg there is real....that Zerg is larger then the old DC Zerg on Bloodthorn. that's just insane.

*snicker* as of this post, the AD zerg got rekt, lost the whole map, lolz

The same as many times earlier, pvdoor feat. Checked the map and it is red. Not a single Ad to be seen.

AD was defending like crazy with 2 bars, the moment emp crowned they /ragequit. AD only plays when they are winning.

And when I made that post, it was actually when blue was smashing them. At that point they had 3 bar (AD)

Minnesinger · May 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Ok I peeked into Had a few minutes ago for the first time in like a month and my god!

The AD Zerg there is real....that Zerg is larger then the old DC Zerg on Bloodthorn. that's just insane.

*snicker* as of this post, the AD zerg got rekt, lost the whole map, lolz

The same as many times earlier, pvdoor feat. Checked the map and it is red. Not a single Ad to be seen.

AD was defending like crazy with 2 bars, the moment emp crowned they /ragequit. AD only plays when they are winning.

And when I made that post, it was actually when blue was smashing them. At that point they had 3 bar (AD)

Fair enough. Wasn´t online when that happened. Anyways, I guess AD had it coming for some time. Hope there will be pvp later on when pop will start emerging.

rfennell_ESO · May 2016

Rylana wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Ok I peeked into Had a few minutes ago for the first time in like a month and my god!

The AD Zerg there is real....that Zerg is larger then the old DC Zerg on Bloodthorn. that's just insane.

*snicker* as of this post, the AD zerg got rekt, lost the whole map, lolz

*notes time of post* 5:01AM

grats on playing all night!

antihero727 · May 2016

Rylana wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Ok I peeked into Had a few minutes ago for the first time in like a month and my god!

The AD Zerg there is real....that Zerg is larger then the old DC Zerg on Bloodthorn. that's just insane.

*snicker* as of this post, the AD zerg got rekt, lost the whole map, lolz

I just figured out why we don't see each other much on the battlefield. It's 4:01am and EP is just finishing their night capping session, good job people. Lol you crack me up. Hopefully one day soon you can wake up earlier and I can get some more KB's on you. Greet job on fighting back the 3am Zerg, that was an OP effort. Rylana is in central time zone just for reference.

Anazasi · May 2016

Telel wrote: »

mchermie wrote: »

AD is winning this campaign now because of numbers. Nothing else. Take your pride in your numbers, because it has nothing to do with any kind of skill (solo/group/leading, you name it)
Classic Haderus: 1. DC gets outnumbered 2. AD gets outskilled (but thanks to all the "fixes" zos has made to this game, it doesnt matter how much you work. Numbers win anyways these days)

Telel has an answer to this problem.

1) Re roll AD

2) Come to True flame and be on the side that is out numbered, lacks skill, needs group leaders, and is losing.

3) Lead PUGs.

4) Obtain true ultimate mediocrity!

Tis one thinks the kibble is laced with skooma.

Armitas · May 2016

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mrvbalc · May 2016

antihero727 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Ok I peeked into Had a few minutes ago for the first time in like a month and my god!

The AD Zerg there is real....that Zerg is larger then the old DC Zerg on Bloodthorn. that's just insane.

*snicker* as of this post, the AD zerg got rekt, lost the whole map, lolz

I just figured out why we don't see each other much on the battlefield. It's 4:01am and EP is just finishing their night capping session, good job people. Lol you crack me up. Hopefully one day soon you can wake up earlier and I can get some more KB's on you. Greet job on fighting back the 3am Zerg, that was an OP effort. Rylana is in central time zone just for reference.

THats outrageous. No, "You know who" doesnt nightcap (It was daytime in china). He always plays with his 16 man op group to wipe 50+ ad players. That remaining 35+ ep following him around just to watch him fight.

Distillateur · May 2016

AD is truly representing the best qualities of PvP in Had at the moment (since morning EST). Cheers and bravo to the profound execution. It must require a very sober and consistent application of your tribe's knowledge - nay, your very vibrant and indomitable spirit - to accomplish what is occurring at the moment.

Truly in awe,
Said No One. Ever. In Haderus NA.

God_flakes · May 2016

They're equally as derpy in TF.