How to inspect other players?

Gargath · May 2016

Is it possible to inspect other's gears and attributes in this game, like it is easily done by few clicks in SWTOR for example?
Imo it would be great to see other players' builds to compare with ours.
Especially in pvp, where it's hard for newbies to have a decent build to stand against experienced pvpers.

JD2013 · May 2016

Nope, not an option.

starkerealm · May 2016

You need to walk up to them, and stare intently until they run away. Then you need to get your Monkey pet to follow them, and report back everything they do.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

daemonios · May 2016

Gargath wrote: »

Is it possible to inspect other's gears and attributes in this game, like it is easily done by few clicks in SWTOR for example?
Imo it would be great to see other players' builds to compare with ours.
Especially in pvp, where it's hard for newbies to have a decent build to stand against experienced pvpers.

ASK THEM. An inspect option has been repeatedly rejected by the majority of the community every time the topic's been brought up. But you can always ask a player for some tips if you think they're doing well.

lathbury · May 2016

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

yeah it would suck if we were able to know someone was a bad player before wasting an hour to get a group and wipe repeatedly just to find out our tank is essentially another dps with bad numbers. much better the way it is where everyone gets to waste there game time.

Taisynn · May 2016

I hope this is NEVER an option. In TERA, people would disregard you because of your gear and kick you from groups. It was ridiculous, especially when queue times could go up to a few hours. The Elitists ruin options like this. Hell, it's why TERA gave us the option to turn it off so nobody could inspect you if you didn't want them to.

xxxdcxxx · May 2016

Whisper them "U are awesome , rocking , ... " then ask what armors are u wearing , ... they will tell u

Sunburnt_Penguin · May 2016

It would be good for newbies but conversely not for min/maxers who've spent significant time theorycrafting and money testing unique builds. Tamriel's Foundry provides a lot of well explained builds which you should check out if you haven't already it.

lathbury · May 2016

xxxdcxxx wrote: »

Whisper them "U are awesome , rocking , ... " then ask what armors are u wearing , ... they will tell u

yup may even steer you in the direction of some good build guides

starkerealm · May 2016

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

You forgot to put "optimal" in scare quotes. Because 99 times out of 100 those "optimal" builds they're demanding only exist as a cookie cutter on someone's blog, that only works in a very narrowly defined set of circumstances.

Or, you know, because you have the gall to want to run a dungeon with a well fitted and impen monster set. Or because they think the "optimal" crafted tank set is Alessia's Bulwark or whatever.

henrycupcakerwb17_ESO · May 2016

Still remember the good old times in EQ when everyone trying to loot from the dead rare spawn mob and the tank would received hundreds of xxx is inspecting you message cause everyone are trying to right click on it

Polysemy · May 2016

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

Last thing we need is toxic casuals giving good players a bad name

JD2013 · May 2016

Well, that didn't take long to descend into Elites vs Casuals.

Good job all!

lathbury · May 2016

JD2013 wrote: »

Well, that didn't take long to descend into Elites vs Casuals.

Good job all!

it was always heading there with this subject

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

Polysemy wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

Last thing we need is toxic casuals giving good players a bad name

And with that attitude that is why a lot of people don't like ESO and MMOs in general because they don't want to play with people like you who think they are better then everyone else when they are not.

JD2013 · May 2016

lathbury wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Well, that didn't take long to descend into Elites vs Casuals.

Good job all!

it was always heading there with this subject

Only if people look at it that way.

I am no fan of an inspect option, HOWEVER with everyone able to see your CP's etc with the DB update I can't see why this would not be added too. I have no shame in what I wear!

And it can be helpful for looking at builds etc.

Runs · May 2016

I would always be fine with the being given the option to allow someone to inspect me, but I will never be fine over someone inspecting me without my approval.

Other people can go spend their own time and gold to find out what builds work for them. Or find one of the many people willing to give that information. They shouldn't be able to just take it without asking. This argument I understand and agree with. What I don't understand is how this suggestion always seems to come down to elitists vs casual... Elitist can ask you to link your gear now and kick you if you don't. Nothing changes if something like this is added other than the ease of showing them.

Tryxus · May 2016

Use rubber gloves for the inspection

lathbury · May 2016

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Polysemy wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

Last thing we need is toxic casuals giving good players a bad name

And with that attitude that is why a lot of people don't like ESO and MMOs in general because they don't want to play with people like you who think they are better then everyone else when they are not.

maybe he is who knows

SantieClaws · May 2016

Stand very very close and hope they do not have personal space issues.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

greylox · May 2016

lathbury wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

yeah it would suck if we were able to know someone was a bad player before wasting an hour to get a group and wipe repeatedly just to find out our tank is essentially another dps with bad numbers. much better the way it is where everyone gets to waste there game time.

Because good gear = good player...sigh....people like you are why we should never have this. Seeing cp will be bad enough.

lathbury · May 2016

greylox wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

yeah it would suck if we were able to know someone was a bad player before wasting an hour to get a group and wipe repeatedly just to find out our tank is essentially another dps with bad numbers. much better the way it is where everyone gets to waste there game time.

Because good gear = good player...sigh....people like you are why we should never have this. Seeing cp will be bad enough.

you have clearly never had a tank in full light armour using a bow or a dd or healer using sword and board. while good gear doesnt always = good player (I never said that) bad gear never = good player

people like me? you dont know the first thing about me.

anitajoneb17_ESO · May 2016

lathbury wrote: »

greylox wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

yeah it would suck if we were able to know someone was a bad player before wasting an hour to get a group and wipe repeatedly just to find out our tank is essentially another dps with bad numbers. much better the way it is where everyone gets to waste there game time.

Because good gear = good player...sigh....people like you are why we should never have this. Seeing cp will be bad enough.

you have clearly never had a tank in full light armour using a bow or a dd or healer using sword and board. while good gear doesnt always = good player (I never said that) bad gear never = good player

people like me? you dont know the first thing about me.

You posted three lines, which tell us a few things about you. We know you're not the kind of player who enjoys to play with other players, but uses other players to achieve his own goals, thus "selects" other players according to his own needs only. We know that you don't know the game very well because there are outstanding players out there who can perform very well in spite in bad/average gear. [snip]

[edited for flame]

AOECAPS · May 2016

Think a system check would be good for pc but not on console where most people think weapon damage/spell damage on the character screen is the end all be all.

Saumur11689 · May 2016

lathbury wrote: »

greylox wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

yeah it would suck if we were able to know someone was a bad player before wasting an hour to get a group and wipe repeatedly just to find out our tank is essentially another dps with bad numbers. much better the way it is where everyone gets to waste there game time.

Because good gear = good player...sigh....people like you are why we should never have this. Seeing cp will be bad enough.

you have clearly never had a tank in full light armour using a bow or a dd or healer using sword and board. while good gear doesnt always = good player (I never said that) bad gear never = good player

people like me? you dont know the first thing about me.

This guy is right whether you like it or not.
If you are trying to run a difficult dungeons you could save yourself a lot of time by seeing the equipment of players.

But probably everyone who disagree likes to run ICP with a "tank" wearing no set items and/or bad dps ones.

I have nothing against casual players, but you see things only in one way; you think good players are bad cause they don't wanna play with casuals, what you don't seem to understand is that casuals are also rude wasting time trying to do things they have not skill to do.

lathbury · May 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

greylox wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

yeah it would suck if we were able to know someone was a bad player before wasting an hour to get a group and wipe repeatedly just to find out our tank is essentially another dps with bad numbers. much better the way it is where everyone gets to waste there game time.

Because good gear = good player...sigh....people like you are why we should never have this. Seeing cp will be bad enough.

you have clearly never had a tank in full light armour using a bow or a dd or healer using sword and board. while good gear doesnt always = good player (I never said that) bad gear never = good player

people like me? you dont know the first thing about me.

You posted three lines, which tell us a few things about you. We know you're not the kind of player who enjoys to play with other players, but uses other players to achieve his own goals, thus "selects" other players according to his own needs only. We know that you don't know the game very well because there are outstanding players out there who can perform very well in spite in bad/average gear.

explain then the videos I have posted in other threads of me taking people in to vet prison and vet white gold tower to get them through it and teach them the mechanics? explain why im often crafting gear for other folks? where are these amazing players with bad gear? if they are amazing they will be constantly trying to improve this incudes getting decent gear for your role.
i could follow up with a few observations I have made about you from your posts but I'm better than that. also ad hominem attacks on other posters dont strengthen your arguments against an inspect option.

[minor edit for quote]

Rune_Relic · May 2016

Saumur11689 wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

greylox wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

yeah it would suck if we were able to know someone was a bad player before wasting an hour to get a group and wipe repeatedly just to find out our tank is essentially another dps with bad numbers. much better the way it is where everyone gets to waste there game time.

Because good gear = good player...sigh....people like you are why we should never have this. Seeing cp will be bad enough.

you have clearly never had a tank in full light armour using a bow or a dd or healer using sword and board. while good gear doesnt always = good player (I never said that) bad gear never = good player

people like me? you dont know the first thing about me.

This guy is right whether you like it or not.
If you are trying to run a difficult dungeons you could save yourself a lot of time by seeing the equipment of players.

But probably everyone who disagree likes to run ICP with a "tank" wearing no set items and/or bad dps ones.

I have nothing against casual players, but you see things only in one way; you think good players are bad cause they don't wanna play with casuals, what you don't seem to understand is that casuals are also rude wasting time trying to do things they have not skill to do.

And you could be doing an easier dungeon where you could go naked and solo it.
But that wouldnt give anyone the option to satisfy their superiority issues right ?
Perhaps they would like to know my race, colour, sex and age too ?
Then they could form a proper discriminatory opinion.

Dictators are all the same.
Their way or the highway.

Saumur11689 · May 2016

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Saumur11689 wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

greylox wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

yeah it would suck if we were able to know someone was a bad player before wasting an hour to get a group and wipe repeatedly just to find out our tank is essentially another dps with bad numbers. much better the way it is where everyone gets to waste there game time.

Because good gear = good player...sigh....people like you are why we should never have this. Seeing cp will be bad enough.

you have clearly never had a tank in full light armour using a bow or a dd or healer using sword and board. while good gear doesnt always = good player (I never said that) bad gear never = good player

people like me? you dont know the first thing about me.

This guy is right whether you like it or not.
If you are trying to run a difficult dungeons you could save yourself a lot of time by seeing the equipment of players.

But probably everyone who disagree likes to run ICP with a "tank" wearing no set items and/or bad dps ones.

I have nothing against casual players, but you see things only in one way; you think good players are bad cause they don't wanna play with casuals, what you don't seem to understand is that casuals are also rude wasting time trying to do things they have not skill to do.

And you could be doing an easier dungeon where you could go naked and solo it.
But that wouldnt give anyone the option to satisfy their superiority issues right ?
Perhaps they would like to know my race, colour, sex and age too ?
Then they could form a proper discriminatory opinion.

It's not about discrimination, it's about trying to have fun, that's why we play.
I don't have fun playing with people who have no idea what to do so we end up wiping and disband the group.

And don't forget most of the time those kind of players don't comunicate so there is no solution at all.
I have been a not experienced players but have always been willing to learn and/or step off if I couldn't handle things.

greylox · May 2016

Obviously I didn't mean atrocious gear. Leave casuals to pugs and elites to guild groups or people you know.

In the end of the day a moron in good gear is worse than someone who knows what they're doing in middling gear.

starkerealm · May 2016

Polysemy wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Not an Option and hopefully never will be, last thing we need are elitist's kicking people out of groups for not having optimal gear.

Last thing we need is toxic casuals giving good players a bad name

Those aren't casuals. Not real ones. They're "elites." You know, with the scare quotes. Because they're just that badass... in their own minds. Then they get salty at everyone. The players who know what they're doing. The players who are just here to have fun and kill some things with their buddies. Everyone. And, to generally, make life miserable for everyone else.

So, let's not accuse people who are just here to have a good time names, okay?