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hydrocynus
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i have a friend who wants to start playing Console vs PC and is not sure which would be the better option.

As a PC player that has never experienced console i am reluctant to push him that way as he has both options available to him yet i have no experience of the console game so cant be subjective.

For those that have moved from one to the other (either way, but have experience of both), what would you say are the pros and cons of each for someone who has both options available to him?

He would be playing on EU servers so any info about population sizes that might be a pro/con would also be greatly appreciated.
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  • Titansteele
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    I don't think you will get population figures or the likes but if he is your friend wouldn't he want to play with you on the PC?
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  • hydrocynus
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    Yes I would like that but he is asking which is a better experience because he has both platforms available. I can't really say to him "well I am on PC and that's all you should need to justify joining PC"
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  • Samphaa
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    Well I started on ps4, and after months of playing and getting quite invested in the game wish I'd started on PC.
  • hydrocynus
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    Samphaa wrote: »
    Well I started on ps4, and after months of playing and getting quite invested in the game wish I'd started on PC.

    Thanks for the reply. Any chance you would be able to let me know what things make you feel that way?
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  • Tommy1979AtWar
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    As a console player I'd say tell him to join you on PC, you guys have better communication options with text chat as we don't have it yet, I've heard you have busier zones and a better economy on PC too, also addon options which I've heard make certain things like inventory management easier to accomplish etc, it just sounds like it's doing better on PC than on console tbh.
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    Life without addons? Shoot me now!
  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    ESO is much better when you have people to play with/chat to and whilst he'll likely be able to on console, it won't be the same as playing with someone he knows.

    Population sizes are unknown, PS4 is fine from what I've experienced but not sure how it compares to Xbox or PC. Same goes for lag

    If he has a console and a suitable gaming PC already and only requires the game whilst having no preference between either, I don't see any benefit to him of going on console:
    - If he likes the thought of using a controller, he can do that on PC
    - PC has so many addons which help with gameplay
  • Kathrein
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    Pc has addons and you on it, should be enough for your friend ;)
  • hydrocynus
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    Ok thanks very much. I think that's easy decision then.

    Not sure if he has ps4 or Xbox but forgot they are also separate from each other.
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  • Samphaa
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    hydrocynus wrote: »
    Samphaa wrote: »
    Well I started on ps4, and after months of playing and getting quite invested in the game wish I'd started on PC.

    Thanks for the reply. Any chance you would be able to let me know what things make you feel that way?

    Addons really dude, alot of things to save time and effort, console is getting better but it will never catch up to what pc can do.
  • SlayerTheDragon
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    PC. It is not even debatable.
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  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    Just a quick question as this thread is done, won't be derailed and it's not worth my creating a new one for it:

    How do PC players manage to move, do abilities and change FOV all at the same time?

    On console it's easy because your left thumb does movement, right thumb does FOV and three abilities whilst index do two other abilities and block & light/heavy (or middles if you play claw style)

    I assumed that you'd use WASD for movement, mouse for FOV and numlock numbers for abilities but this seems pretty difficult only having two hands and with the distance between mouse and keyboard.
  • hydrocynus
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    We use the numbers 1 to 5 above WASD for skills plus Q for pots and R for ultimate. Space is jump. I think that's it?
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  • hydrocynus
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    Well that is base but you can configure differently if you wish
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  • hydrocynus
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    Oh and I mapped some mouse buttons to weapon swap and sneak.
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  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    Ah okay, so I guess you can use your ring finger for movement and then middle/index for abilities and thumb for jumping. It's just something that I've always wondered, thanks :smile:
  • Dalglish
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    From personal experience, i've played both; not sure on PS4 but on Xbox the community is full of toxic 15 year olds; I'd say go with PC if they are just starting out.

    PC is more responsive in combat and just feels more natural if they have played other MMO's before.

    The PC community is probably a little more elitest when it comes to certain top-level guilds; but you also have a slightly older age range so you don't get as many trolls rage messaging wishing your family die of cancer etc.
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    Do not join xbox if you have the choice. It crashes all the time and lags chronically. Just purely for performance just avoid.
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  • lathbury
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    I don't think you will get population figures or the likes but if he is your friend wouldn't he want to play with you on the PC?

    you dont know @hydrocynus its definately a negative and probably why he's considering console
  • hydrocynus
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    @lathbury its people like you who make others quit this game.
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  • lathbury
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    one request about fishing
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    you know what i would say but cant or will hurt someones feels sounds like bilthy zasuals
    Edited by lathbury on April 28, 2016 11:22AM
  • hydrocynus
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    And you are an reckitist blob.
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  • Surgee
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    I was there on PC version together with my wife for a year until we switched to TO XBOX. Just for the record, we own two very high-end gaming PCs.

    It's exactly same game on console except few minor things, but it feels so much different. On PC I felt like I was playing an awesome MMO, but still an MMO like any other. On console however, we both felt like we're playing a Single player ESO game where you actually meet other players. I know it sounds weird but let me explain. Instead of reading scrolling chat in cities, you can hear everyone talking. I spent countless hours just fooling around the towns chatting with people who pass by. IWith voice chat only, you also know if you're playing with adults or kids...very helpful. You also foucs more on the experience instead of reading texts. Mentality of console players is also much different. They don't care about maxing out every little stat. They just want to adventure and have fun, make their characters based on how they want to play, not what is currently best according to forums. The fact that every console is the same, evens out the chances in PVP. Everyone has same resolution as you do, same FPS, same controller while on PC if you don't have newest PC, 3 monitors, $200 mouse and 100 addons running, you know you're lacking behind.

    Now the bad stuff about the console. It's locked at 1080p 30fps. If 30 fps is something you can't stand then go for PC. With most recent patch framerate likes to spike a lot but hopefully ZOS will fix it soon. Lack of text chat (but will be added soon) can also be a bad thing for those who want to quickly communicate with other players in Cyrodil that are far away. I'm not a fan of channels in guild chat.

    If you've never owned a gaming console, you probably won't understand how different it feels. Not just this game but all games. My wife was a hardcore PC player and since I bought her XBOX ONE she does't want to go back anymore despite better graphics on PC. I'm not on a journey to try to convince you that console version is better...it probably isn't, but me and my wife surely enjoy it more. It's probably because on console we care less about the numbers and that kind of stuff. We play the game like TES games should be played. An adventure in Tamriel, not a stats race like in every other MMO.

    Hope this helps you!
    Edited by Surgee on April 28, 2016 11:34AM
  • lathbury
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    get him on pc mate if only for the add ons knowing dps and where surveys are etc. tell him to sub a month at a time as well so he gets all dlc and crafting bag then he can be as smug as me :).
    Edited by lathbury on April 28, 2016 11:31AM
  • hydrocynus
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    Surgee wrote: »
    I was there on PC version together with my wife for a year until we switched to TO XBOX. Just for the record, we own two very high-end gaming PCs.

    It's exactly same game on console except few minor things, but it feels so much different. On PC I felt like I was playing an awesome MMO, but still an MMO like any other. On console however, we both felt like we're playing a Single player ESO game where you actually meet other players. I know it sounds weird but let me explain. Instead of reading scrolling chat in cities, you can hear everyone talking. I spent countless hours just fooling around the towns chatting with people who pass by. IWith voice chat only, you also know if you're playing with adults or kids...very helpful. You also foucs more on the experience instead of reading texts. Mentality of console players is also much different. They don't care about maxing out every little stat. They just want to adventure and have fun, make their characters based on how they want to play, not what is currently best according to forums. The fact that every console is the same, evens out the chances in PVP. Everyone has same resolution as you do, same FPS, same controller while on PC if you don't have newest PC, 3 monitors, $200 mouse and 100 addons running, you know you're lacking behind.

    Now the bad stuff about the console. It's locked at 1080p 30fps. If 30 fps is something you can't stand then go for PC. With most recent patch framerate likes to spike a lot but hopefully ZOS will fix it soon. Lack of text chat (but will be added soon) can also be a bad thing for those who want to quickly communicate with other players in Cyrodil that are far away.

    If you've never owned a gaming console, you probably won't understand how different it feels. Not just this game but all games. My wife was a hardcore PC player and since I bought her XBOX ONE she does't want to go back anymore despite better graphics on PC. Now I'm not on a journey to try to convince you that console version is better...it probably isn't, but me and my wife surely enjoy it more. It's probably because on console we care less about the numbers and that kind of stuff. We play the game like TES games should be played. An adventure in Tamriel, not a stats race like in every other MMO.

    Hope this helps you!

    Thanks very much! Glad to hear that side of the argument too!
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  • hydrocynus
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    lathbury wrote: »
    get him on pc mate if only for the add ons knowing dps and where surveys are etc. tell him to sub a month at a time as well so he gets all dlc and crafting bag then he can be as smug as me :).

    You said something constructive. Did your cat run across the keyboard again?
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  • Surgee
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    hydrocynus wrote: »

    Thanks very much! Glad to hear that side of the argument too!

    No problem! I've just noticed how badly written my post was. I'm at work right now and customers keep on interrupting me, hehe.
  • Rosveen
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    Just a quick question as this thread is done, won't be derailed and it's not worth my creating a new one for it:

    How do PC players manage to move, do abilities and change FOV all at the same time?

    On console it's easy because your left thumb does movement, right thumb does FOV and three abilities whilst index do two other abilities and block & light/heavy (or middles if you play claw style)

    I assumed that you'd use WASD for movement, mouse for FOV and numlock numbers for abilities but this seems pretty difficult only having two hands and with the distance between mouse and keyboard.
    Many of us use gaming mice, it helps immensely.
  • Nuntjako
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    I'm on PS4, and it suits me fine as I have a job, wife and kids. I've also found a great guild, that I enjoy playing with. BUT I really like optimizing my builds and it's very difficult on consoles as we don't have addons. So if your friend doesn't prefer one over the other I would tell him to join you on PC.
  • Ariades_swe
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    For what its worth game sold around double the amount on ps4 than pc in europe. And from playing both pc and ps4 I cab tell pc got way lower pop atm.
    Main reason for this is us pc players get to face competition from more mmos getting released on pc. On ps4 only competition is ffxiv and dcuo.
    I prefer the game on pc because of the addons and textchat.
    Edited by Ariades_swe on April 28, 2016 1:15PM
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