I see why people are reaching out for VD fix

UltimaJoe777 · April 2016

For starters it procs on Siege kills. Is it supposed to? Pretty sure it isn't.
Also it does seem like it procs too soon and actually causes your own death rather than simply damaging nearby allies and not contributing to your death. However, I could be mistaken and it's actually referring to the proc on someone that died before me, thus causing mine.

Couple fixes to look into Zenimax. Other than that I personally have no beef with the set.

Saucy_Jack · April 2016

You fire a ballista. It hits a person, and they die, and VD procs. Did the ballista damage kill them? Sure. But the ballista didn't fire itself; you were the one that pulled the trigger. You are also the one wearing the VD set - the one that says "people explode when you kill them". Thus the proc.

Ballistas don't kill people. People kill people.

And then VD kills more people.

UltimaJoe777 · April 2016

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

You fire a ballista. It hits a person, and they die, and VD procs. Did the ballista damage kill them? Sure. But the ballista didn't fire itself; you were the one that pulled the trigger. You are also the one wearing the VD set - the one that says "people explode when you kill them". Thus the proc.

Ballistas don't kill people. People kill people.

And then VD kills more people.

Yes but the question lies in whether Zenimax designed the set for combat or siege or both.

TequilaFire · April 2016

Working as intended procs on siege.
Emperor wearing VD pouring oil is a monster.
Learned that the hard way! smh

xblackroxe · April 2016

It doesn´t proc to soon. It just procs the moment you are a 1 life/ on the ability that kills you. So its not proccing to soon you would die anyway.

Spearshard · April 2016

Actually it has been proc'ing too soon. There is a thread with a video of it going off at roughly 15-20% hp. I've been killed solo, no one around my by it going off when I still have 3000 hp. It's acting like an execute, not after you die like it is supposed to.

IcyDeadPeople · April 2016

Spearshard wrote: »

Actually it has been proc'ing too soon. There is a thread with a video of it going off at roughly 15-20% hp. I've been killed solo, no one around my by it going off when I still have 3000 hp. It's acting like an execute, not after you die like it is supposed to.

It's a UI bug that makes it appear in your death recap. According to one of the developers who posted about it, Vicious Death doesn't actually do any damage to the person who procs it.

Spearshard · April 2016

I'm not referring to death recap. I literally explode at low hp, and not from an ability.

Riggsy · April 2016

Trash set meant to fix lag but didn't, because Zeni has no desire to invest time/$$$ in fixing the real root cause of cyro lag.
Zeni logic: market their game with massive, epic player versus player battles then do everything they can to penalize people who fight in close proximity to one another...

smacx250 · April 2016

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

You fire a ballista. It hits a person, and they die, and VD procs. Did the ballista damage kill them? Sure. But the ballista didn't fire itself; you were the one that pulled the trigger. You are also the one wearing the VD set - the one that says "people explode when you kill them". Thus the proc.

Ballistas don't kill people. People kill people.

And then VD kills more people.

I got a great laugh out of that one Saucy! In fact, just got another re-reading as I posted! Awesome for you!

WalkingLegacy · April 2016

VD is the worse bandaid fix since proxy det.

FriedEggSandwich · April 2016

Idk why they didn't make it work like the soul magic passive that makes your soul explode on death. This passive used to proc on death but for some reason I don't know zos changed it to proc just before you die, but it still manages not to damage you or contribute to your death. If similar code already exists in the game then why is it so hard to get the VD proc to work as intended? Mindblowing.

MaxwellC · April 2016

Pretty sure VD is broken.

https://youtu.be/sRnfs6Hq278

IcyDeadPeople · April 2016

Spearshard wrote: »

I'm not referring to death recap. I literally explode at low hp, and not from an ability.

Might be your soul shatter passive. VD doesn't cause any damage at all to the player who procs it, according to TFlemming:

ZOS_TFlemming wrote: »

To clarify, this is a visual bug with death recap where it still counts the proc as a hit for death recap purposes even though you're already dead. The set is not actually dealing damage to the person who procs it before they die, sorry for the confusion.

Necrelios · April 2016

Siege weapons inherit your stats as it becomes just another weapon in your hands, like a really big bow or staff. Coldfire Ballistae are really fun with the VD set and a high crit rating. You don't want to make siege weapons boring do you? Oh yeah and it also helps to be a Dunmer Madicka DK with the fire and AoE passives. It's enough to make even the most tankiest of builds nervous enough to move out of the AoE.

Ajaxduo · April 2016

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

Spearshard wrote: »

I'm not referring to death recap. I literally explode at low hp, and not from an ability.

Might be your soul shatter passive. VD doesn't cause any damage at all to the player who procs it, according to TFlemming:

ZOS_TFlemming wrote: »

To clarify, this is a visual bug with death recap where it still counts the proc as a hit for death recap purposes even though you're already dead. The set is not actually dealing damage to the person who procs it before they die, sorry for the confusion.

Yes it does show in death recap sure, but I've seen multiple times whilst ganking solo that VD is triggering at around 20% on my targets, killing them. See the video above to.

Sleep · April 2016

the really problem is it procs before a player is killed

neville_bart0s · April 2016

i have a set that I keep on my stamina DK to use when I am laying down some counter siege, I dont even use weapons anymore I just set up a balista and shoot it until all my foes have dissapeared