How long should shields last?

SublimeSparo · April 2016

As they seem intent on reducing the time of basically all shields to 6 seconds (all except boneshields synergy 10s, and empoweted ward 8s)
What would you prefer the base length of these shields to be;

Lucky28 · April 2016

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duration was never really the issue on any shield. Annulment should not block physical damage and a major/minor system should have been used to prevent shield stacking.

strikeback1247 · April 2016

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Where is the <6 option? :^)

Yolokin_Swagonborn · April 2016

Omitted 20s option on purpose?

Shields weren't that big of a problem when we had softcaps. Hell templars had the equivalent of 12k shields but they had counters.

Removal of softcaps caused a lot of unnecessary nerfs in this game.

a1x23 · April 2016

10s

I think 10s would be a happy medium

SublimeSparo · April 2016

10s

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Omitted 20s option on purpose?

Shields weren't that big of a problem when we had softcaps. Hell templars had the equivalent of 12k shields but they had counters.

Removal of softcaps caused a lot of unnecessary nerfs in this game.

I figured they were pretty set on reducing it down from 20s, but 6s seemed rather extreme, i should have put more options tbh but there's an other to cover those
I personally think 10-12s would be a reasonable compromise.

NateAssassin · April 2016

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It was fine the way it was, it didn't need a nerf. Shields are already weak as hell in PvP, and were fine in PvE, nobody complained about them.

FriedEggSandwich · April 2016

6s

6s for pvp, 20s for pve. C'mon zos, surely that's possible to achieve with battle spirit.

notimetocare · April 2016

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Until broken, obviously

Acrolas · April 2016

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To make it interesting, 3 second base with an additional 50% per 250 magicka recovery.

Then you're being rewarded for improving your resource sustain over the life of your character.

Recremen · April 2016

12s

I can't see shields lasting such a short time and also being worth a slot on the bar.

LegacyDM · April 2016

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3 seconds. Make those sorcs work for a living.

ArchMikem · April 2016

12s

As long as possible. My playstyle relies HEAVILY on damage shields.

That, or at least make the amount of damage it absorbs much higher if the duration is reduced. My squishy needs protection.

Talyena · April 2016

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All shields less than 12 seconds should be increased to 12 seconds. All shields should have their timers halved in PvP zones.

STEVIL · April 2016

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Wait and see what playtest shows.

I LIKE shorter shields by a lot.

Personally even at 10 sec they would be a combat pre-cast with tie for enough attrition to make recast iffy for most content.

Lylith · April 2016

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should've been left alone.

SublimeSparo · April 2016

10s

I might not have made it very clear but i meant all shields, so annulment, igneous, ward, blazing, boneshield etc

ArchMikem · April 2016

12s

Actually what may be fair is to have shields have a longer duration, but make it like Streak to where if you recast it before the shield either drains or times out then the Magicka cost increases.

Yo_Donno · April 2016

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Best would be to keep durations of all shields in PVE, except the Templar shields should be raised to 20s and reduce the duration of all shields by half in PVP

Nénlindë · April 2016

6s

They should last as long as Zenimax says they should last. All the people quitting over a duration nerf are childish.

Recremen · April 2016

12s

Nénlindë wrote: »

They should last as long as Zenimax says they should last. All the people quitting over a duration nerf are childish.

Zenimax doesn't make decisions in a vacuum, though. It's perfectly fine and expected to have community feedback.

Spliffo · April 2016

6s

It's a great change that won't change pvp but now everyone that rolled Sorc for the ward in pve will have to learn how to run a dungeon like every other class. Casting ward is a dps loss anyway so it's good in the long run, more dps is always better

Nénlindë · April 2016

6s

Recremen wrote: »

Nénlindë wrote: »

They should last as long as Zenimax says they should last. All the people quitting over a duration nerf are childish.

Zenimax doesn't make decisions in a vacuum, though. It's perfectly fine and expected to have community feedback.

Community feedback isn't always the best feedback. Give them what they want is what you're suggesting? Ahem... Non champion point campaigns that are dead.

Have faith in the team they have, balance is literally what they do for a living, the community will always expect more & more, the more they give.

Everybody is an expert critic these days, and it's a real problem with ridiculous quitting threads out there over a duration nerf. (People completely forget the buffs they get with their shields).

Steel_Brightblade · April 2016

6s

6 seconds seems fine, I mean let's be honest, if your shield lasts that long in combat you're clearly fighting a wet blanket.

Desimator · April 2016

Spliffo wrote: »

It's a great change that won't change pvp but now everyone that rolled Sorc for the ward in pve will have to learn how to run a dungeon like every other class. Casting ward is a dps loss anyway so it's good in the long run, more dps is always better

Those that rely on ward have less health and more magic so they would have to either cast ward more often dps loss magnified or they will have to give up magic in exchange for health dps loss so neither of those scenario's imo lead to a dps increase

The PvE test will be Maelstrom scores if it drops overall for the sorc class will probably be the best indication of how much of an impact it has on the dps potential cause lests face it Maelstrom is a kill everything as quick as you can exercise

Vaoh · April 2016

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Duration should remain the same as it is on live. The strength of Hardened Ward (what we are actually referring to when commenting about shields) should get buffed by a good amount, but be made crittable as a result.

This duration nerf just isn't a good way to go about it. When my Stam DK uses Rally to heal from 20% to 100% Health + powerful HoT from Rally+Vigor, I don't remember the Health disappearing after 6 seconds because the duration is up. I can roll dodge/CC break a bunch, have dodge chance, better resistance. My DPS in the next update, both burst and sustained, will be better with any Stamina class.

Right now, my Magicka Sorc uses Bolt Escape but otherwise must tank damage using shields, as I will die if caught CCed for more than a second without Stamina or Hardened Ward up. Shields --> THE Magicka Sorc form of defense. It is still very strong at tanking, possibly even more so with the Annulment buff in Dark Brotherhood.

All the shield changes will do is:

1) *** off players fighting strong Magicka Sorcs, as they will still tank damage just as well or even better unless caught at the perfect time.
2) *** off Magicka Sorcs, who have a very annoying shield duration issue which will mainly conflict in PvE. You have to recast your shields so often now it'll drive you crazy.
3) We will still have threads on OMG NERF SORC because tanking tons of damage when played smartly is still possible.

Please, just try it out. Make those shields stronger but crittable. It'd actually work!

lathbury · April 2016

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2-3 seconds

HoloYoitsu · April 2016

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Duration wasn't the problem. Take a look at the complaints over the last 2 years, you will find just about zero people complaining about the buff duration.

The forums are overflowing with people jumping for joy at the duration nerf now simply because they are people who have wanted shields reworked, and you just offered them a substantial nerf. Of course they are going to be flooding threads with how this is great even though not one of them ever thought of this change, let alone asked for it.

Hope all you people who complained about shields enjoy the new age of every single build running at least Harness Magicka or Bone Shield.

susmitds · April 2016

6s

Check this post.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/262338/major-issue-with-current-universal-shields

itscompton · April 2016

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12 Days

Aletheion · April 2016

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See my comment on duration here:

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2919851/#Comment_2919851

-Aletheion

The Elder Scrolls Online

How long should shields last?

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