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Stamblade skills discussion

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Ambush, Incapacitating Strike, Killer's Blade. Now that it's scaled, will easily take out 35k in 3 hits in PvP.
Snipe, Relentless Focus. Will take out 30k in two hits in PvP. Add a Poison Arrow for massive DoT.
Fear, Light attack/Suprise Attack weave, Finish any way you wish - At least 25K

Wow, and the best part is most enemies will die before they can react.
Edited by susmitds on April 26, 2016 3:44AM
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    I love these changes to Nightblade and might make a new gankblade with the removal of vet ranks.
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    They opened up so many possibilities. I am truly filling like an assassin thinking of hundreds of ways to finish an enemy. We lost Camo proc from stealth but I predict Incapacitating Strike to be the strongest single hit ultimate in the game with stun, major defile, increased damaged on enemy for 5 sec plus at least 12k damage on hit at only 50 ultimate.
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    I honestly think it gives us a little more versatility in move choice this patch, overall i really dont think we will hit that much harder tbh
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    ostrapz wrote: »
    I honestly think it gives us a little more versatility in move choice this patch, overall i really dont think we will hit that much harder tbh

    Um, Killer's Blade to use Disease Damage instead of Magic... say HELLO to hitting harder!! ;)
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    25% harder is not something I ignore.
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    susmitds wrote: »
    25% harder is not something I ignore.

    Especially with an execute!
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    Bosmer stamblade vet to come out of retirement...

    But where does that leave my Bretton magiblade? Certainly proxy det is off the table.
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    25% harder is not something I ignore.

    Especially with an execute!

    Executioner will hit slightly harder now but the gain is very small in my calculations compared to DW killer's blade but killer's blade is going to a lot. Debuff healing - check. HP on kill - check.
    And don't forget the new relentless focus that can easily be the hardest hitting single ability in the game.
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  • Pirhana7_ESO
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    I actually really like that flurry is half duration now and has that big life steal morph! Also consider the change to Camo Hunter, you will get minor berserk upon sneak attack so you will do even more damage. Camo hunter is a sneak reveal now. This makes me thing it will be like the stealth wars from Darkage of Camelot where stealth was always hinting each other
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    Dual wield nb's, more dmg xD

    I've seen 2h nb's hit 10k on people with soul harvest, now their going to hit 25% harder with a built in stun in their 50 cost ult...

    Time to save up i guess.
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    As you say executioner wont b much diffeent from killers blade, incap strike WIll hit a hit harder as well but this is considering you have 100 in mighty, 10% is very diffent then 25%, only 1k extra damage on 10k incap strike. Assasins scoutge is really interesting though
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    ostrapz wrote: »
    As you say executioner wont b much diffeent from killers blade, incap strike WIll hit a hit harder as well but this is considering you have 100 in mighty, 10% is very diffent then 25%, only 1k extra damage on 10k incap strike. Assasins scoutge is really interesting though

    Everyone has at least 20% into incap xD

    Also 2k extra is quite a bit, thats not even considering the added crit bonus etc...
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    @ostrapz
    Precise strikes also requires phy/pois/dis dmg for the added critical damage I think. And assassin's scourge is going to hit harder than its alternative for magicka just because of weapon damage being higher.
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    I actually really like that flurry is half duration now and has that big life steal morph! Also consider the change to Camo Hunter, you will get minor berserk upon sneak attack so you will do even more damage. Camo hunter is a sneak reveal now. This makes me thing it will be like the stealth wars from Darkage of Camelot where stealth was always hinting each other

    We already got minor berserk from Assassin’s Scourge. Camo hunter is more a bone to the rest of the classes. I think it'll be used less than live, and rather dead for pve.
    And of course I love the changes, I really want to compare Flurry, with Ma weapons, with Surprise attack.
    Edited by SanTii.92 on April 25, 2016 11:32PM
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    I actually really like that flurry is half duration now and has that big life steal morph! Also consider the change to Camo Hunter, you will get minor berserk upon sneak attack so you will do even more damage. Camo hunter is a sneak reveal now. This makes me thing it will be like the stealth wars from Darkage of Camelot where stealth was always hinting each other

    Wealready got minor berserk from Assassin’s Scourge. Camo hunter is more a bone to the rest of the classes.

    Other classes won't really use stealth so much, so it is kinda plain useless now. Same for its other morph.
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    I actually really like that flurry is half duration now and has that big life steal morph! Also consider the change to Camo Hunter, you will get minor berserk upon sneak attack so you will do even more damage. Camo hunter is a sneak reveal now. This makes me thing it will be like the stealth wars from Darkage of Camelot where stealth was always hinting each other

    We already got minor berserk from Assassin’s Scourge. Camo hunter is more a bone to the rest of the classes. I think it'll be used less than live, and rather dead for pve.
    And of course I love the changes, I really want to compare Flurry, with Ma weapons, with Surprise attack.

    Most NBs i know dont use that class skill, if you did, now you can replace it because Camo does it for you along with crit bonus, and letting you see enemy stealth, as well as giving you 3% weapon damage bonus from the passive FG skill.

    Major crit buff, minor 8% damage buff (after sneak attack), and 3% weapon damage bonus. Even without the active ability this should be on your bar
    Edited by Pirhana7_ESO on April 26, 2016 12:04AM
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    While I do agree that those changes were needed, I don't quite see the logic. Stamblade is pretty good already and just got muuuuch better, then you look at stamsorcs and those guys are still not getting better at all. But well, whatever I guess. :lol:
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    I actually really like that flurry is half duration now and has that big life steal morph! Also consider the change to Camo Hunter, you will get minor berserk upon sneak attack so you will do even more damage. Camo hunter is a sneak reveal now. This makes me thing it will be like the stealth wars from Darkage of Camelot where stealth was always hinting each other

    We already got minor berserk from Assassin’s Scourge. Camo hunter is more a bone to the rest of the classes. I think it'll be used less than live, and rather dead for pve.
    And of course I love the changes, I really want to compare Flurry, with Ma weapons, with Surprise attack.

    Most NBs i know dont use that class skill, if you did, now you can replace it because Camo does it for you along with crit bonus, and letting you see enemy stealth, as well as giving you 3% weapon damage bonus from the passive FG skill.

    Major crit buff, minor 8% damage buff (after sneak attack), and 3% weapon damage bonus. Even without the active ability this should be on your bar

    Most nbs use relentless focus to be honest. Especially with bows.
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    Wollust wrote: »
    While I do agree that those changes were needed, I don't quite see the logic. Stamblade is pretty good already and just got muuuuch better, then you look at stamsorcs and those guys are still not getting better at all. But well, whatever I guess. :lol:

    That's what the PTS is for. Buffing/nerfing what doesn't work. They still have time to change things up if Stamblades are too strong and I hope they will add more sorc stam morphs, because that one thundering presence isn't great...
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    Wollust wrote: »
    While I do agree that those changes were needed, I don't quite see the logic. Stamblade is pretty good already and just got muuuuch better, then you look at stamsorcs and those guys are still not getting better at all. But well, whatever I guess. :lol:

    That's what the PTS is for. Buffing/nerfing what doesn't work. They still have time to change things up if Stamblades are too strong and I hope they will add more sorc stam morphs, because that one thundering presence isn't great...

    Yeah, my stam sorc is crying. Certainly expected a bit more. But don't expect any major change from PTS even if any class is OP, as to be honest with all the changes to the entire system coming, I would be more worried about that than class balance if I were them.
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    I wouldn't get married to the idea just yet.

    If it makes it to live that would be great for my Bosmer wood elf but I can see many tweaks to this before to tone it down.
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Ambush, Incapacitating Strike, Killer's Blade. Now that it's scaled, will easily take out 35k in 3 hits in PvP.
    Snipe, Relentless Focus. Will take out 30k in two hits in PvP. Add a Poison Arrow for massive DoT.
    Fear, Light attack/Suprise Attack weave, Finish any way you wish - At least 25K

    Wow, and the best part is most enemies will die before they can react.

    I was on the PTS for 10 minutes and already got hit by a guy doing 17K Incapacitating Strikes...

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    susmitds wrote: »
    Ambush, Incapacitating Strike, Killer's Blade. Now that it's scaled, will easily take out 35k in 3 hits in PvP.
    Snipe, Relentless Focus. Will take out 30k in two hits in PvP. Add a Poison Arrow for massive DoT.
    Fear, Light attack/Suprise Attack weave, Finish any way you wish - At least 25K

    Wow, and the best part is most enemies will die before they can react.

    I was on the PTS for 10 minutes and already got hit by a guy doing 17K Incapacitating Strikes...

    KqoUwqS.jpg

    My prediction is never wrong. ;)
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    Now if you think about this way, stamblades actually only get to do crazy single target burst, they still lack multi target AoEs and proper sustain, so they are actually pretty balanced and not that op.
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Ambush, Incapacitating Strike, Killer's Blade. Now that it's scaled, will easily take out 35k in 3 hits in PvP.
    Snipe, Relentless Focus. Will take out 30k in two hits in PvP. Add a Poison Arrow for massive DoT.
    Fear, Light attack/Suprise Attack weave, Finish any way you wish - At least 25K

    Wow, and the best part is most enemies will die before they can react.

    I was on the PTS for 10 minutes and already got hit by a guy doing 17K Incapacitating Strikes...

    KqoUwqS.jpg

    Lol
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