Before you think they #nerfedsorc pay attention to the second change for shield stackers

Rylana · April 2016

Conjured Ward: Reduced the duration of this ability and the Hardened Ward morph to 6 seconds from 20 seconds.

Annulment: Reduced the duration of this ability and its morphs to 6 seconds from 20 seconds. In addition, this ability and its morphs now absorb all damage instead of just spell damage.

Note: The Harness Magicka morph will continue to return Magicka only when spell damage is absorbed as a morph effect.

Oh mah lawd, every sorc is gonna be unkillable gods again, praise cheesus. #slotmoreregenforlulz

Xsorus · April 2016

Rylana Bone Shield is now Stamina based as well lol...

Rylana · April 2016

Xsorus wrote: »

Rylana Bone Shield is now Stamina based as well lol...

baw gawd, this is a slobberknocker day for shield users.

vortexman11 · April 2016

Xsorus wrote: »

Rylana Bone Shield is now Stamina based as well lol...

Redguard Stam DKs with 40k+ Stamina stacking shields as big as Altmer Sorcerers incoming

strikeback1247 · April 2016

vortexman11 wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Rylana Bone Shield is now Stamina based as well lol...

Redguard Stam DKs with 40k+ Stamina stacking shields as big as Altmer Sorcerers incoming

IT IS THE COMING OF STAMINA SHIELDSTACKING!!!

Rylana · April 2016

I wonder if they realize the beast they have actually unleashed among those of us that cancel animations. Some of us, wont even notice the duration change at all, I know I wont.

Lisbette · April 2016

Biggest nerf to sorcs in this new patch imo is Dawnbreaker going physical damage over magic. There went the hardest hitting, cheapest ult in the game for sorcs. Magplars will have Crescent Sweep at least.

-Tam

Lisbette · April 2016

strikeback1247 wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Rylana Bone Shield is now Stamina based as well lol...

Redguard Stam DKs with 40k+ Stamina stacking shields as big as Altmer Sorcerers incoming

IT IS THE COMING OF STAMINA SHIELDSTACKING!!!

With 100 in Bastion and 40K stam bone shield will be around 8-10k in Cyrodiil. Not bad at all for a stam class with dodge roll and Shuffle, but def doesn't compare to sorcs being able to stack hardened plus harness

bronski · April 2016

also:

"Break Free no longer removes or provides immunity to silence effects.

This change mainly applies to the Negate Magic player ability, as most content and monster-based silence effects were already unbreakable."

Rylana · April 2016

The Dawnbreaker change makes sense though, most of the FG line has been stam/physical based and it never made sense its ultimate was a magicka based superweapon

Xsorus · April 2016

Told ya the meta was going to shift to Stamina

Lisbette · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

The Dawnbreaker change makes sense though, most of the FG line has been stam/physical based and it never made sense its ultimate was a magicka based superweapon

Yea yea I know it makes sense. I'm hoping Negate Magic damage morph is viable but not holding my breath.

Stam Nightblades are going to be stupid OP now with Dawnbreaker and Incap Strike now all in the same CP tree, Stamplars now getting burning light physical dmg plus Dawnbreaker physical ult. Kodi will just be able to look at people in kill them next patch.....

Xsorus · April 2016

Rofl.. on PTS

My heavy Armor DK setup now returns 1116 Stamina/Magicka every 4 seconds

Lucky28 · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

The Dawnbreaker change makes sense though, most of the FG line has been stam/physical based and it never made sense its ultimate was a magicka based superweapon

no it doesn't. what would have made sense was for them to split it. Flawless = physical damage. Smiting = magic damage.

Zheg · April 2016

The negate change could be a dark horse. I wonder if pre-popped immovability pots will have silence immunity, one of the first things I'll want to test. We may be seeing a return of the negate meta of 1.3 (think it was that patch?).

Rylana · April 2016

Zheg wrote: »

The negate change could be a dark horse. I wonder if pre-popped immovability pots will have silence immunity, one of the first things I'll want to test. We may be seeing a return of the negate meta of 1.3 (think it was that patch?).

I shall again reclaim my mantle as Negate 1. I missed being negate 1. It felt so right.

Not sure if Absorption or Suppression yet tho. Natural tendency will be for moar damage because ya know, kill all the things, but ive been an offhealer for so long mehhhh

ostrapz · April 2016

Happy someone did this thread before all the sorcs lose their mind. Fg change made sense but i wouldnt have minded leaving the magicka classes with theirown shiny sword

Zheg · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

The negate change could be a dark horse. I wonder if pre-popped immovability pots will have silence immunity, one of the first things I'll want to test. We may be seeing a return of the negate meta of 1.3 (think it was that patch?).

I shall again reclaim my mantle as Negate 1. I missed being negate 1. It felt so right.

Not sure if Absorption or Suppression yet tho. Natural tendency will be for moar damage because ya know, kill all the things, but ive been an offhealer for so long mehhhh

We've liked absorption for the mobility, but if the meta ends up being a blanket-area kind of thing, the reduced damage buff may be more useful. Mist form is clearly the new rapids (or old, rather), but that won't work in a sea of negates, so mobility isn't really a factor there.

Lisbette · April 2016

dmg morph of Negate is 2533 Magic dmg every .5 sec. That's with 100 in Elemental Expert, 48k magicka, 3k spell dmg, not bad but not great either.

Rylana · April 2016

Lisbette wrote: »

dmg morph of Negate is 2533 Magic dmg every .5 sec. That's with 100 in Elemental Expert, 48k magicka, 3k spell dmg, not bad but not great either.

Thats almost the same as a comparable standard actually. 5k dps ground effect. I wonder if the heal is comparable, that gives sorcs both a "pseudo standard" and a "pseudo remembrance"

RadioheadSh0t · April 2016

Ugh what a lazy balance change...

Zheg · April 2016

I've always felt we needed it, but now probably moreso than ever - indicators for enemy vs. friendly negates. If the only counter to negate is to move out of it, you need to be able to instantaneously tell if it's a bad or good negate, not checking your bars and wondering if it's one of the many bugs that lock skills, the bombard bug, lag, or an actual negate that's stopping skills from firing. TTK is too low for it to be anything other than an obvious visual. The invisible negates that don't show up in lag will also become very, very interesting in Cyrodiil

Rylana · April 2016

Zheg wrote: »

I've always felt we needed it, but now probably moreso than ever - indicators for enemy vs. friendly negates. If the only counter to negate is to move out of it, you need to be able to instantaneously tell if it's a bad or good negate, not checking your bars and wondering if it's one of the many bugs that lock skills, the bombard bug, lag, or an actual negate that's stopping skills from firing. TTK is too low for it to be anything other than an obvious visual. The invisible negates that don't show up in lag will also become very, very interesting in Cyrodiil

Enemy negates have red circles at the bottom, but its unreliable as hell. Negate is probably the least lag resistant of all skills, it often doesnt even show

Fruitdog · April 2016

Elder Shields Online.

Wrobel is the Oprah of damage shields.

You get a damage shield and you get a damage shield!

Lisbette · April 2016

the morph heal is 1956 every .5 sec to every in the globe, not bad

Zheg · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

I've always felt we needed it, but now probably moreso than ever - indicators for enemy vs. friendly negates. If the only counter to negate is to move out of it, you need to be able to instantaneously tell if it's a bad or good negate, not checking your bars and wondering if it's one of the many bugs that lock skills, the bombard bug, lag, or an actual negate that's stopping skills from firing. TTK is too low for it to be anything other than an obvious visual. The invisible negates that don't show up in lag will also become very, very interesting in Cyrodiil

Enemy negates have red circles at the bottom, but its unreliable as hell. Negate is probably the least lag resistant of all skills, it often doesnt even show

Even when it does show though, imo you can never actually tell it apart from the myriad of other crap on the ground. I pretty much treat every negate as a bad negate unless one of our sorcs just called theirs out. The upper (visible) part of the dome of negate needs to be the indicator, and the animation needs to be prioritized in lag so you can actually see it. I'd rather see the negate than one of the 8 casts of caltrops on the ground.

bitaken · April 2016

I will just negate the negates.

I sort of missed being that ***.

Septimus_Magna · April 2016

But how will you do dmg if you need to cast 2 shields every 6 seconds?

Stack shields all day and deal 2k dps, Im already scared..

And good luck during prime time, maybe you can squeeze in a curse between swapping bars and casting shields.

Nafirian · April 2016

My sorc been retired since 1.6

Rylana · April 2016

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

But how will you do dmg if you need to cast 2 shields every 6 seconds?

Stack shields all day and deal 2k dps, Im already scared..

And good luck during prime time, maybe you can squeeze in a curse between swapping bars and casting shields.

When you get focused as hard as I do, you already have figured out how to weave in shields between damage output

Example - curse, LA, hardened ward (procs frag), frag, healing ward Overloard, Overload LA, hardened ward, curse, frag, hardened ward, Overload overload overload overload moar shields. its pretty damn simple if youre not just mashing 1 button,

bitaken · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

But how will you do dmg if you need to cast 2 shields every 6 seconds?

Stack shields all day and deal 2k dps, Im already scared..

And good luck during prime time, maybe you can squeeze in a curse between swapping bars and casting shields.

When you get focused as hard as I do, you already have figured out how to weave in shields between damage output

Example - curse, LA, hardened ward (procs frag), frag, healing ward Overloard, Overload LA, hardened ward, curse, frag, hardened ward, Overload overload overload overload moar shields. its pretty damn simple if youre not just mashing 1 button,

Stahp making it simple for the one button mashers.

Let them be who they want to be. They are peacocks and need to fly.