NO. CP give players yet another reason to keep playing ESO every day!

CP are also a much more fair and accessible method of progression compared to BoP gear and other gated content... ANYBODY can grind CP, regardless of whether they are in a group or guild.

Too late to discuss CP System.
They f****d hard with it.
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If they rolled it back to what it used to be before CP then yes, in the current game no.

Necrelios wrote: »

Nope. The CP system is pretty awesome, it could still use a few little tweaks. I think they should add some more stuff that applies to our Mounts as well to improve stamina regen while riding, speed, reduce fall damage, etc. I think it would also be nice to see some points go towards summoned pets for sorcs or maybe if we ever get anything like a necromancer class too.

The system we have now is incredibly vague so you can never be sure what is going to happen when you invest points into something until after much trial and error and wasting lots of precious gold.

I like this. There should be utility and quality of life improvements, not 25% increases to combat stats.

Justice31st wrote: »

CP is the future character progression since veteran ranks are being removed. Why would they get rid of that lol?

Is everyone OK with character progression literally just being an XP grind? Does no one want gear tiers from progressively hard content? Or how about having any benefit to being an Alliance Rank past AR13?

XP grinds being the only form of character progression is so awful.

I don't think you can really call CP a "grind" when they are earned for each of your characters equally.

It is too late to go back now. Too many people are way to invested and have put so much work and actual cash (exp scrolls) into gaining CP.

Justice31st wrote: »

Pheefs wrote: »

I don't think you can really call CP a "grind" when they are earned for each of your characters equally.

^This. Excellent point sir.

If there was more unique story per character playthrough like DAO or something then I would call it being applied to all characters a bad thing. I don't wanna grind the same 3 main stories over and over to play different characters so I like this.

Sallington wrote: »

Justice31st wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Justice31st wrote: »

CP is the future character progression since veteran ranks are being removed. Why would they get rid of that lol?

Is everyone OK with character progression literally just being an XP grind? Does no one want gear tiers from progressively hard content? Or how about having any benefit to being an Alliance Rank past AR13?

XP grinds being the only form of character progression is so awful.

Gear will be based on CP requirements though. You are saying that higher stats from tier PvE and PvP armor should replace CP, like WoW? Isn't dungeon and Cyrodil gear grinding for top tier gear similar?

We have very little info yet on gear CP requirements (anything over 160cp...which takes maybe a week with the catch up mechanic), so I don't know about any of that. And yes, I'm saying we should have tiers of gear like WoW, and many other MMOS, because it's a very tried and true system. Completing content for gear, and harder content for better gear just works.

And no, dungeon gear, outside of monster helms, is 95% laughable. There's nothing special coming out of the vMoL or any Vet dungeons. Cyrodil is ALL RNG with the rewards bags. Or you just buy it from the trader. There's some sets from ICP and WGT that are nice, but they are (again) based solely on mind-numbing RNG, and not content difficulty.

Hmm, I see some good points. Unfortunately Zenimax wanted to go down a different path than it's predecessors such as Blizzard Entertainment. Sometimes game companies try to be so different that they steer away from tried and true systems which helped give former MMO's great success. This late in the game, CP would never be removed after people spent so much time and real money on exp scrolls.

Yes.

Yup CP system is there to stick, is it a viable system, I personnaly like how they created it and the tough they give about whether or not should a player be link to a global account progression or toward a more characther progression system. So for me the CP system is kind of nice, I mean obviously it's not perfect and the reason is there's no reason for a 300 CP player to do Something different of what the 501 cp player is doing so that's kind of a shame.

I mean with all those zone who are widely open to any player it's kind of lame for a 501 cp player to go there and simply appreciate widely renoun as too easy content, but still the fact that a player could change character and still be at the same point in his progression (which would become way more obvious when veteran rank are remove) it's still Something nice.

Honnestly I do feel it's more an issue about how gear is design then how CP are working that thrives the tranches between player. I mean do CP create a difference they sure are, is it a big gap, yes it is ! but why is this gap so obvious... I frankly thing it is because they made it strong so that the more experience player could really see a difference while they made most set feel kind of the same so that almost any player could tag along and not feel overpowered, even if they obviously will be because 25% more domage is still a lot.

So is it the CP system that is the issue, I don't think so, is it the way it balance the low impact gear is having nowaday I do believe it.

Suggestion: Lower the bonus you can actually get from Champion system to 15% instead of 25 and to 10% instead of 15% and try to drive player appart with the gear they use.

Exemple: Worth notice, Maestrom weapon give 186 spell or weapon domage a bonus which only exist if you are running a 3 piece agility or willpower set up, other then that normal spell or weapon domage bonus is 129. That's a real difference.

Have you ever notice how little the difference was between a full legendairy gear and a full purple gear (stat Wise ?) (excluding weapon). To me, that is the real issue, CP is overpowered because gear is too much the same. ICP and WGT excluded because those have a nice 5 piece bonus usually, but other then that...

EDIT: Actually just look up there's a 39 domage gaps on the 5 pice of julianos if you run in Gold or if you run in White (that's actually from a picture may be a little it different that look just wierd to me). But I do actually know that inbetween a 2 piece gold Molag Kena and one piece gold and one piece purple there's only a 14 weapon and spell power gap !

I like the account wide end-game progression the champion system provides, but that's pretty much it. The stat buffs add needless power creep and way too much resource sustain and mitigation with no drawbacks. Having everything all at once makes for boring meta and is bad for the game, especially for PvP.

CP's should go, to me its just a cheap way to add "unlimited progression". Grinding isn't good progression and they are the cause of the current power creep. PvP in Azura's is far better than any other PvP server atm. It would be far easier to balance the game without this ill conceived champion system. Why the hell would I play this game if I was new and had knowledge that I wouldn't be equal to older players unless I played for months grinding? Incredibly long leveling systems that create a wall for new players have destroyed MMO's before.