Does anyone have problems getting people to PVE with?

MidnightBlue · March 2016

I see people find others and beat VDSA and other various pve group content so easily with no issues. I'm having a hard time finding people to do this stuff with in this game and was wondering if I'm the only one that has this issue. Or do the people who seem like they found people easily really had a hard time finding people too? Joining pve guilds don't help. I don't have this problem with pvp at all, but pve hell of a hard time. I don't know how to fix this. I've went through several guilds already.

sigsergv · March 2016

I stopped playing because of this. I played since beta and still have some regular dungeons not completed. There is just no chance to find people to have fun, everyone wants dailies etc, looks like no one playing casually. So I stopped and unsubscribed.

Mojmir · March 2016

I don't have a problem, I either run with guildmates or go solo. either way is profit.

DannyLV702 · March 2016

Same. It's the reason I started pvping and now it's all I do

Elektrakosh · March 2016

I have to solo. The end. My new character is rather young and weak so yeah. My vet one Sorceror is not great due to picking the wrong restoration skills.

Humatiel · March 2016

Joining pve guilds don't help.

I suspect you stating this with such definity is you having a bad experience inside a guild. By definition most pve guilds enjoy pve, unless of course you're trying to run content you're either grossly undergeared/level for or your...personality(?) doesn't jive well with others.

There are many pve guilds that are nothing more than giant blobs of casuals that exist to do things like pledges, dsa etc. They are often recruiting in the capitals of each alliance and are what I would suggest as a way to break into the scene of guild based pve.

Understand though that as before there are certain boundaries that are generally assumed, tanks have shields, ideally a templar heals, aoe is king to name a few. It's also assumed that to some degree you remain mildly active, for many casual pve guilds this is nothing more than a log-in once every 10 days. The more active you want your pve guild to be the more requirements you can assume they require of you (gear/time).

Yes I've made this a post about guilds, you're looking for group based pve and this games only structured groups are in guilds.

edit: spelling

MidnightBlue · March 2016

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Same. It's the reason I started pvping and now it's all I do

Yeah I'm probably gonna do that. I did that for awhile and tried for an emp push, but just wasn't happening. So I gave up on pvp for a bit, then I switched to another alliance and and finally got emp. Pvp is great here I have guilds and groups that I can group up with and pvp anytime. Pve I can't find anyone. And with pvp, you need to pve to get gear just to pvp better though.

Audioraincloud · April 2016

@MidnightBlue what time are you usually on?

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

Make friends while you play. It'll net 50+ folks who also have friends and some guild invites. This helps some

Tats · April 2016

I don't play with anyone because theres no text chat on console and I don't want to run around town with my mic yelling "anyone want to group up for ?????" Really wish there was text chat in this game. Would make things so much easier.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · April 2016

Elektrakosh wrote: »

I have to solo. The end. My new character is rather young and weak so yeah. My vet one Sorceror is not great due to picking the wrong restoration skills.

Then reset your skill tree????

Xerosus · April 2016

Still haven't done DSA either huh? Lol

MidnightBlue · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Make friends while you play. It'll net 50+ folks who also have friends and some guild invites. This helps some

I have done that, but majority of the people I met like that are not very good at the game and can't complete some of the vet dungeons. I don't mind teaching people, but I'm not even that good at the game because I haven't gotten good groups to complete content with. Can't complete content unless the group knows what they're doing. Kind of a catch 22.

MidnightBlue · April 2016

Probably gonna have to get one of my friends to teach me what certain groups and roles should be needed for a trials and dungeons. I don't play with him much because he plays with his friends and I'm not invited often since I'm not elite.

MidnightBlue · April 2016

Xerosus wrote: »

Still haven't done DSA either huh? Lol

Is that a problem? I finally got VDSA done after asking everybody in one of the guilds I was in for about two weeks because most people didn't want to do it with new people. You know not everybody is gonna get good at the game right away no matter what they do.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

MidnightBlue wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Make friends while you play. It'll net 50+ folks who also have friends and some guild invites. This helps some

I have done that, but majority of the people I met like that are not very good at the game and can't complete some of the vet dungeons. I don't mind teaching people, but I'm not even that good at the game because I haven't gotten good groups to complete content with. Can't complete content unless the group knows what they're doing. Kind of a catch 22.

Do you queue for random VET?

Usually when we have a good group on Xbox one, we all friend up. Then from time to time we get or send party invites on the console and talk about forming a group in game. I have to assume a similar meet and follow up situation would happen but for DSA and vDSA....I've not seen anyone interested sense pre-IC.

I had some ideas in another post so maybe it's not you not having friends. Some of the content is irrelevant for many players now unless it's updated.

Xerosus · April 2016

MidnightBlue wrote: »

Xerosus wrote: »

Still haven't done DSA either huh? Lol

Is that a problem? I finally got VDSA done after asking everybody in one of the guilds I was in for about two weeks because most people didn't want to do it with new people. You know not everybody is gonna get good at the game right away no matter what they do.

Chill, i don't know what "problem you're talking about, i was just teasing.

MidnightBlue · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

MidnightBlue wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Make friends while you play. It'll net 50+ folks who also have friends and some guild invites. This helps some

I have done that, but majority of the people I met like that are not very good at the game and can't complete some of the vet dungeons. I don't mind teaching people, but I'm not even that good at the game because I haven't gotten good groups to complete content with. Can't complete content unless the group knows what they're doing. Kind of a catch 22.

Do you queue for random VET?

Usually when we have a good group on Xbox one, we all friend up. Then from time to time we get or send party invites on the console and talk about forming a group in game. I have to assume a similar meet and follow up situation would happen but for DSA and vDSA....I've not seen anyone interested sense pre-IC.

I had some ideas in another post so maybe it's not you not having friends. Some of the content is irrelevant for many players now unless it's updated.

I sometimes queue for a random vet dungeon, but often times it takes too long to get one because I'm a DPS. I've met friends from doing some dungeons and stuff, but most of the times we go our separate ways. It doesn't help that the new people I meet refuse to change their playstyle a bit if we can't beat something. If we can't beat something, wouldn't the ideal option is to change it so you can fix it better?

Audioraincloud · April 2016

@MidnightBlue Send me an xbox message, cant find your GT, mine is AudioRaincloud. i was stuck in your exact situation, think i can help you out!

pretzl · April 2016

Well, people aren't really the friendliest at times $:\$
What megaserver and platform are you on? It could help you a long way as to finding people to play with. I run a progression PvE guild on the EU PC server that'll gladly help newer people so long as they actively want that help. Alot of people have joined with the mindset that they are the best already and thus the only people that need to change are the 11 others around them in a raid.
That kindof mentality doesn't really work, haha.
If you're openminded, kind and willing to teach/learn, it'll take you a long way as far as grouping goes.

MidnightBlue · April 2016

Audioraincloud wrote: »

@MidnightBlue Send me an xbox message, cant find your GT, mine is AudioRaincloud. i was stuck in your exact situation, think i can help you out!

I just did, thank you. I'm looking to form a trials group along with dungeons and vDSA. My focus is trials and dungeons right now though.

sekou_trayvond · April 2016

My wife and our out-of-state friends (another couple) do group content routinely on the weekends.

We're not the best 4 person group out there but our collective victories have been the sweetest moments in the game, for me anyway.

Saturn · April 2016

Most people are probably in guilds or have extensive friendlists. I recommend trying to find a good active PvE guild and then expand your friendlist from that. I never have any problems doing stuff because I know a lot of active players and take part in 3 PvE guilds.

You do have to put an effort in to get something in return. Going into zone chat looking for a group is about the worst way to go about it.

Cuyler · April 2016

My experience leading a host of different guilds since Beta has been the people who complain the most that "they can't find a group in PvE" usually are the type of players nobody wants to be around. Groups tend to be smaller than in PvP and due to this one has to first be competent, but as equally important, be personable. There are a few taboo things that usually cause a player to not get invited back to a small 4-man or 12-man PvE group.

1. Being really bad at the game.
2. Being really bad and thinking your good or being defensive of constructive criticism.
3. Being judgmental and critical of everything and everyone.
4. Entitlement. Thinking players have to/should run with you. They don't.
5. Just being a stick-in-the-mud and not fun to be around. Too serious, etc.

Usually these five things are the kiss-of-death for getting into rewarding 4-man/12-man PvE groups. Now I'm not saying this is you, I'm just saying reflect a minute and make sure it isn't you before you start to say "it's the game", or some other reason other than it may be you. Just one of those things can be a roadblock to group finding.

I've personally have never had a problem forming groups and the groups that have been the most rewarding are the ones where players first and foremost joke, laugh and form some mutual bond of respect for each other. Again please don't take this as directed towards you. This is a PSA to all that this may actually apply to, I see these types of people everyday and I see them come to the forums to complain as if it's no fault of their own.

Now to add some suggestions. Keep going through guilds, it's a natural process. Join, meet people, get along or not, find another. Players come and go on the drop of a dime in MMOs in general. Even the best guilds aren't immune to players getting burned out or loss of interest and they simply putter out. Eventually though, you'll find like minded players, hopefully make a few friends along the way and then you'll have your group. Just remember there isn't some magical group of players out there that is waiting for your beckoning call to do dungeons at any given moment, you'll have to put in the effort to find it and continue to nurture and maintain that circle of friends.

Or .....use the LFG tool. Best of luck!

Luigi_Vampa · April 2016

All PvE guilds are not created equal. Keep shopping around until you find a group you like and does the content you want to do.

MidnightBlue · April 2016

Saturn wrote: »

Most people are probably in guilds or have extensive friendlists. I recommend trying to find a good active PvE guild and then expand your friendlist from that. I never have any problems doing stuff because I know a lot of active players and take part in 3 PvE guilds.

You do have to put an effort in to get something in return. Going into zone chat looking for a group is about the worst way to go about it.

What kind of effort should I put in?

Cadbury · April 2016

Don't really have any issues finding other players to run content with (Though for reference, I'm on PS4 not Xbox like the OP)

Being in 4 very active guilds helps alot

MidnightBlue · April 2016

Cuyler wrote: »

My experience leading a host of different guilds since Beta has been the people who complain the most that "they can't find a group in PvE" usually are the type of players nobody wants to be around. Groups tend to be smaller than in PvP and due to this one has to first be competent, but as equally important, be personable. There are a few taboo things that usually cause a player to not get invited back to a small 4-man or 12-man PvE group.

1. Being really bad at the game.
2. Being really bad and thinking your good or being defensive of constructive criticism.
3. Being judgmental and critical of everything and everyone.
4. Entitlement. Thinking players have to/should run with you. They don't.
5. Just being a stick-in-the-mud and not fun to be around. Too serious, etc.

Usually these five things are the kiss-of-death for getting into rewarding 4-man/12-man PvE groups. Now I'm not saying this is you, I'm just saying reflect a minute and make sure it isn't you before you start to say "it's the game", or some other reason other than it may be you.

I've personally have never had a problem forming groups and the groups that have been the most rewarding are the ones where players first and foremost joke, laugh and form some mutual bond of respect for each other. Again please don't take this as directed towards you. This is a PSA to all that this may actually apply to, I see these types of people everyday and I see them come to the forums to complain as if it's no fault of their own.

Now to add some suggestions. Keep going through guilds, it's a natural process. Join, meet people, get along or not, find another. Players come and go on the drop of a dime in MMOs in general. Even the best guilds aren't immune to players getting burned out or loss of interest and they simply putter out. Eventually though, you'll find like minded players, hopefully make a few friends along the way and then you'll have your group. Just remember there isn't some magical group of players out there that is waiting for your beckoning call to do dungeons at any given moment, you'll have to put in the effort to find it and continue to nurture and maintain that circle of friends.

Or .....use the LFG tool. Best of luck!

It could be me, but majority of the time the people that do want to play with me are players that are worse than me at the game. So many people will play this game with me, but they are players that can't complete content with me at all. We get stuck and then have to abandon it because we can't beat it. Then when we get stuck, they don't want to attempt it with me again because we were stuck in there for so long.

Could say the same for elitist players that are judgmental. So if elitist players who are usually judgmental how come they can find people then?

I went through so many guilds already. I join and leave and sometimes rejoin the same ones as well. I'm about to leave another because the people in there don't use guild chat and I can't seem to talk to them and do stuff with them since they're always busy with their friends.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

MidnightBlue wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

MidnightBlue wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Make friends while you play. It'll net 50+ folks who also have friends and some guild invites. This helps some

I have done that, but majority of the people I met like that are not very good at the game and can't complete some of the vet dungeons. I don't mind teaching people, but I'm not even that good at the game because I haven't gotten good groups to complete content with. Can't complete content unless the group knows what they're doing. Kind of a catch 22.

Do you queue for random VET?

Usually when we have a good group on Xbox one, we all friend up. Then from time to time we get or send party invites on the console and talk about forming a group in game. I have to assume a similar meet and follow up situation would happen but for DSA and vDSA....I've not seen anyone interested sense pre-IC.

I had some ideas in another post so maybe it's not you not having friends. Some of the content is irrelevant for many players now unless it's updated.

I sometimes queue for a random vet dungeon, but often times it takes too long to get one because I'm a DPS. I've met friends from doing some dungeons and stuff, but most of the times we go our separate ways. It doesn't help that the new people I meet refuse to change their playstyle a bit if we can't beat something. If we can't beat something, wouldn't the ideal option is to change it so you can fix it better?

No, so if I can convey something about the bold part....

Its not up to us to suggest or "get" someone to play differently. At best it just causes arguments and is more than likely a reason you don't have follow-up friend opportunities.

Just go with the flow....if you all get to a point where you can't pass something, excuse yourself and thank everyone for having you. I have found it helps to ask..."what can I do if anything to make this more possible"? Offer to friend when you have the desire and if not, just move on so you can find another group.

MrDenimChicken · April 2016

yeah it's such a damn struggle to find people to PVE with

I queue myself for around 10 dungeons and I can't get into one for at least 30 minutes most of the time

and half the time I join the group, and ppl suddenly all disband once I load into the dungeon, and then I gotta wait to get kicked out

then I gotta go back to the solo quest grind and just accept that this game is a watered down single player game until end-game

MidnightBlue · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

MidnightBlue wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

MidnightBlue wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Make friends while you play. It'll net 50+ folks who also have friends and some guild invites. This helps some

I have done that, but majority of the people I met like that are not very good at the game and can't complete some of the vet dungeons. I don't mind teaching people, but I'm not even that good at the game because I haven't gotten good groups to complete content with. Can't complete content unless the group knows what they're doing. Kind of a catch 22.

Do you queue for random VET?

Usually when we have a good group on Xbox one, we all friend up. Then from time to time we get or send party invites on the console and talk about forming a group in game. I have to assume a similar meet and follow up situation would happen but for DSA and vDSA....I've not seen anyone interested sense pre-IC.

I had some ideas in another post so maybe it's not you not having friends. Some of the content is irrelevant for many players now unless it's updated.

I sometimes queue for a random vet dungeon, but often times it takes too long to get one because I'm a DPS. I've met friends from doing some dungeons and stuff, but most of the times we go our separate ways. It doesn't help that the new people I meet refuse to change their playstyle a bit if we can't beat something. If we can't beat something, wouldn't the ideal option is to change it so you can fix it better?

No, so if I can convey something about the bold part....

Its not up to us to suggest or "get" someone to play differently. At best it just causes arguments and is more than likely a reason you don't have follow-up friend opportunities.

Just go with the flow....if you all get to a point where you can't pass something, excuse yourself and thank everyone for having you. I have found it helps to ask..."what can I do if anything to make this more possible"? Offer to friend when you have the desire and if not, just move on so you can find another group.

I've known people that do this, tell people what to do to help them get better. They were able to get people to play with them because they worked together to get better and for that to happen they changed because they were willing to.