How can this not please everyone??

Volkodav · April 2016

These are some of the things coming in the next DB DLC. How can this not please?:

DARK BROTHERHOOD DLC GAME PACK FEATURES & CONTENT

Join the Dark Brotherhood and become an assassin for hire
Visit the Gold Coast, available to characters of all levels, where you can explore Anvil and Kvatch for the first time since The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Hours of exciting story content and quests that will have you revisiting your favorite areas of Tamriel
New, repeatable quest content involving Contracts and the Black Sacrament
Challenging new group bosses and delves to conquer
A new passive skill line exclusive to members of the Dark Brotherhood
Unique costumes, motifs and item sets inspired by the deadly Dark Brotherhood

BASE GAME PATCH FEATURES & CONTENT

The removal of Veteran Ranks
Poison-Making, for those who want to be especially nasty to their enemies
Toggle-able nameplates for all characters
Character name display for Xbox One and PlayStation®4
Item locking to help prevent accidental deconstruction of your most valuable items
Further improvements and new features to the Grouping Tool including a group ready check, vote-to-kick system, and updated queue timer
Tons of updates to the Crown Store including additional character slots, motif previews, and hats
Craft Bags for ESO Plus members
Improvements and adjustments to Item Traits
Ongoing Cyrodiil performance improvements
Sanctum Ophidia Trial scaling, rebalancing and the addition of a Normal and Veteran mode
Balance improvements to combat and gameplay abilities including the Fighters Guild skill line, Vampires and stamina abilities
…and more!
In addition, we have numerous changes and improvements for previous DLC game packs including a new District capture system for Imperial City, and rebalancing for the Imperial City dungeons.

I finally found the info,and it all looks great to me! Cant wait for it to get here!

SirAndy · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

How can this not please everyone??

From my somewhat extensive experience on the subject of (not) pleasing, i would argue that once you reach a population count of two or more, you will have trouble "pleasing" everyone.

bedlom · April 2016

Same here this is gonna be an awesome DLC I just think the high possibility of no console chat box and pc voice chat is very upsetting for most of us.

WhimsyDragon · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

…and more!

THIS!! YESSSS!!!

Tryxus · April 2016

Sanguine himself would be pleased

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2016

You can't please anyone anymore I guess. I can already tell this is gonna be one of my favorite DLCs just because it is the Dark Brotherhood and I have been waiting since before launch to join them.

WalkingLegacy · April 2016

bedlom wrote: »

Same here this is gonna be an awesome DLC I just think the high possibility of no console chat box and pc voice chat is very upsetting for most of us.

Console chat box may make it before the DLC. Last ESO live they mentioned the engineers were putting their finishing touches on it or whatever.

@Volkodav
It doesn't please me because they're marketing class balance and updates as a DLC feature. Something that should be pushed on it's own.

I will admit that I like the IC district capture and the Sanctum update. Am I super stoked for this update? No, not really. The new game informer spread of FFXV has me stoked though.

Svalinn · April 2016

Because i don't care if i have an house, a family, food, etc... i want to eat lobster for breakfast every single day! And i want miss universe as my concubine. And lets be clear... you either give me what i want or you suck badly e.e

...and i don't espect everyone will understand what i mean xD

Tandor · April 2016

I fear there are some here who could have won the million dollars and still found cause to complain about it.

I'm delighted with the details given thus far for the new DLC.

ButtersEP · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

These are some of the things coming in the next DB DLC. How can this not please?:

DARK BROTHERHOOD DLC GAME PACK FEATURES & CONTENT

Join the Dark Brotherhood and become an assassin for hire
Visit the Gold Coast, available to characters of all levels, where you can explore Anvil and Kvatch for the first time since The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Hours of exciting story content and quests that will have you revisiting your favorite areas of Tamriel
New, repeatable quest content involving Contracts and the Black Sacrament
Challenging new group bosses and delves to conquer
A new passive skill line exclusive to members of the Dark Brotherhood
Unique costumes, motifs and item sets inspired by the deadly Dark Brotherhood

BASE GAME PATCH FEATURES & CONTENT

The removal of Veteran Ranks
Poison-Making, for those who want to be especially nasty to their enemies
Toggle-able nameplates for all characters
Character name display for Xbox One and PlayStation®4
Item locking to help prevent accidental deconstruction of your most valuable items
Further improvements and new features to the Grouping Tool including a group ready check, vote-to-kick system, and updated queue timer
Tons of updates to the Crown Store including additional character slots, motif previews, and hats
Craft Bags for ESO Plus members
Improvements and adjustments to Item Traits
Ongoing Cyrodiil performance improvements
Sanctum Ophidia Trial scaling, rebalancing and the addition of a Normal and Veteran mode
Balance improvements to combat and gameplay abilities including the Fighters Guild skill line, Vampires and stamina abilities
…and more!

I finally found the info,and it all looks great to me! Cant wait for it to get here!

From this, how do you yourself, see yourself entertained and engaged with that for longer than 2 weeks?

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2016

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

bedlom wrote: »

Same here this is gonna be an awesome DLC I just think the high possibility of no console chat box and pc voice chat is very upsetting for most of us.

Console chat box may make it before the DLC. Last ESO live they mentioned the engineers were putting their finishing touches on it or whatever.

@Volkodav
It doesn't please me because they're marketing class balance and updates as a DLC feature. Something that should be pushed on it's own.

I will admit that I like the IC district capture and the Sanctum update. Am I super stoked for this update? No, not really. The new game informer spread of FFXV has me stoked though.

I'm seeing the class balance and updates listed under base game update which is free to everyone. Correct me if I am wrong.

Also, I personally preferred the Lego Star Wars game informer spread over the FFXV one.

daemonios · April 2016

Why should everybody cheer at every item on that list? Each person is entitled to their own opinion. I admit I'm excited about the news myself, but your post seems to imply there's only one correct position on all those things.

BTW, you conveniently left out the nerf to vCoA, vWGT and vICP, which very much does not please me.

Volkodav · April 2016

bedlom wrote: »

Same here this is gonna be an awesome DLC I just think the high possibility of no console chat box and pc voice chat is very upsetting for most of us.

I really understand your frustration here.I have always wondered what the problem is for the devs that they dont fic it for you guys.

STEVIL · April 2016

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

@Volkodav
It doesn't please me because they're marketing class balance and updates as a DLC feature. Something that should be pushed on it's own.

Wait, huh?
Those changes will apply to everyone even without buying the DLC, so they are free to everyone but you get chafed bc they have the audacity to list them in the same page as the DLC they will be simultaneously released with?

All righty then.

Svalinn · April 2016

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

@Volkodav
It doesn't please me because they're marketing class balance and updates as a DLC feature. Something that should be pushed on it's own.

You seriously don't realise that the class balance etc that you're talking about are part of the base game patch that will come out togheter with the DLC and that you're going to get it even if you don't buy the DLC?

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2016

DELETE

Volkodav · April 2016

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

bedlom wrote: »

Same here this is gonna be an awesome DLC I just think the high possibility of no console chat box and pc voice chat is very upsetting for most of us.

Console chat box may make it before the DLC. Last ESO live they mentioned the engineers were putting their finishing touches on it or whatever.

@Volkodav
It doesn't please me because they're marketing class balance and updates as a DLC feature. Something that should be pushed on it's own.

I will admit that I like the IC district capture and the Sanctum update. Am I super stoked for this update? No, not really. The new game informer spread of FFXV has me stoked though.

Well,enjoy FFXV then. I'm sure you will have a great time with it.Personally,I dont care for the series.I have a couple of versions that someone bequeathed me when he died,but it just wasnt my thing.
Sometimes someone will find fault with anything and one must eccept that.

Magdalina · April 2016

Not to rain on your parade, but what is your point here?
You like the new DLC(or well what we know of it so far). Congratulations, it is a good thing. Really, no sarcasm.

Some people don't. Specifically the people who are into small group content(I assume the bigger group content bunch might still be occupied with vMoL) and (small scale) PvP. That's me and several dozen people in my friendlist off the top of my head at the very least. Not to say there's no good stuff listed there but I see zero reason for me personally to buy this DLC.

...I just noticed this, why did you leave the dungeon part out? I'm just curious

redspecter23 · April 2016

There is a lot of good stuff in that announcement. The implementation will be the key. We knew vet levels were going away but that can be a blessing or a curse depending on how it's done. Many were hoping for a new trial or at least a new vet dungeon so that group will probably be disappointed, but scaled Sanctum may keep people busy for a while, especially if the norm/vet difficulty divide is similar to MoL currently. Just the announcement of that keeps hope alive for scaled versions of the other trials with relevant loot. I'm already drooling for scaled VDSA and v16 Healer and Footman gear some time down the road.

For me DB will be about a whole lot of little things that I'd consider quality of life enhancements with just enough content to keep me going for another 4 months.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2016

Magdalina wrote: »

Not to rain on your parade, but what is your point here?
You like the new DLC(or well what we know of it so far). Congratulations, it is a good thing. Really, no sarcasm.

Some people don't. Specifically the people who are into small group content(I assume the bigger group content bunch might still be occupied with vMoL) and (small scale) PvP. That's me and several dozen people in my friendlist off the top of my head at the very least. Not to say there's no good stuff listed there but I see zero reason for me personally to buy this DLC.

...I just noticed this, why did you leave the dungeon part out? I'm just curious

I think OP wants to know why people aren't satisfied with some of the new stuff. Especially when a lot of it has been asked for for a while now.

Volkodav · April 2016

ButtersEP wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

These are some of the things coming in the next DB DLC. How can this not please?:

DARK BROTHERHOOD DLC GAME PACK FEATURES & CONTENT

Join the Dark Brotherhood and become an assassin for hire
Visit the Gold Coast, available to characters of all levels, where you can explore Anvil and Kvatch for the first time since The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Hours of exciting story content and quests that will have you revisiting your favorite areas of Tamriel
New, repeatable quest content involving Contracts and the Black Sacrament
Challenging new group bosses and delves to conquer
A new passive skill line exclusive to members of the Dark Brotherhood
Unique costumes, motifs and item sets inspired by the deadly Dark Brotherhood

BASE GAME PATCH FEATURES & CONTENT

The removal of Veteran Ranks
Poison-Making, for those who want to be especially nasty to their enemies
Toggle-able nameplates for all characters
Character name display for Xbox One and PlayStation®4
Item locking to help prevent accidental deconstruction of your most valuable items
Further improvements and new features to the Grouping Tool including a group ready check, vote-to-kick system, and updated queue timer
Tons of updates to the Crown Store including additional character slots, motif previews, and hats
Craft Bags for ESO Plus members
Improvements and adjustments to Item Traits
Ongoing Cyrodiil performance improvements
Sanctum Ophidia Trial scaling, rebalancing and the addition of a Normal and Veteran mode
Balance improvements to combat and gameplay abilities including the Fighters Guild skill line, Vampires and stamina abilities
…and more!

I finally found the info,and it all looks great to me! Cant wait for it to get here!

From this, how do you yourself, see yourself entertained and engaged with that for longer than 2 weeks?

You're speaking to a person who still plays a game that I love and have from it's release. Morrowind. So,as much as I love ESO I will continue to play it and all it's DLCs for more than two weeks,I assure you.I still play in Hew's Bane and it's over two weeks old. I dont crave constant and immediate new content.If that were the case,I wouldnt be playing ESO period.The main content hasnt changed for two years.Only new DLCs have added content.
I'll be playing the new DLC for quite a while using each of my alts.

thefndodge · April 2016

As a new player, I'm really excited about the crafting bags and the ability to display your character name for console players.

I play on PS4 so I'm really hoping for text chat. I was bewildered by the lack of it when I started playing last week. I tried turning on area chat but was bombarded with obnoxious music and the sounds of bodily functions. Thus, my desire to socialize has been extremely limited since I joined.

Dromede · April 2016

I tried to understand why people are hating on VR removal, because so many do, and i honestly can't comprehend it. So no, not everyone is going to be pleased, no matter how ZOS tries.

I mean, Gina shows up in a thread to answer/make a joke, and at least a couple people comment with a totally not related rant. That's how you know

ShedsHisTail · April 2016

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

It doesn't please me because they're marketing class balance and updates as a DLC feature. Something that should be pushed on it's own.

Those are in the Base Game Patch section.
They're just letting you know that the patch will also include those things; free of charge.

Chori · April 2016

no DX12 support? nah, doesnt please me.

Volkodav · April 2016

Magdalina wrote: »

Not to rain on your parade, but what is your point here?
You like the new DLC(or well what we know of it so far). Congratulations, it is a good thing. Really, no sarcasm.

Some people don't. Specifically the people who are into small group content(I assume the bigger group content bunch might still be occupied with vMoL) and (small scale) PvP. That's me and several dozen people in my friendlist off the top of my head at the very least. Not to say there's no good stuff listed there but I see zero reason for me personally to buy this DLC.

...I just noticed this, why did you leave the dungeon part out? I'm just curious

Not raining on my parade at all.
What's my point? Isnt it obvious by the title?
There is much to be pleased about,but there will always be people who still want more and they want it now.They cannot get into anything positively. To read the content of my first post,there is so much to please people.
Again,..not everyone can be pleased though,as was mentioned in a comment above.

As to what I left out,I just fixed it.I missed that last bit.Thanks for letting me know.

Ajax_22 · April 2016

I'm sorry that I'm not jumping for joy at the fact that ZOS is finally going to finish the only PvP DLC after waiting nine months. The fact that capturable districts was announced out of the blue actually has me more worried than excited. If you want me excited for the IC district changes then Brian Wheeler needs to make a post to let us know what all they are thinking about changing in the districts and get our feedback on it. If they just a a flag in the middle of every district then that will be worse than doing nothing.

daemonios · April 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Why should everybody cheer at every item on that list? Each person is entitled to their own opinion. I admit I'm excited about the news myself, but your post seems to imply there's only one correct position on all those things.

BTW, you conveniently left out the nerf to vCoA, vWGT and vICP, which very much does not please me.

Those nerfs weren't a part of that announcement so OP can't really leave something out that wasn't there in the first place.

That is plain wrong. This is a part of the announcement that wasn't quoted in the OP:

In addition, we have numerous changes and improvements for previous DLC game packs including a new District capture system for Imperial City, and rebalancing for the Imperial City dungeons.

The bolded part was later explained by @ZOS_Finn to mean a nerf to the three dungeons I mentioned.

Waseem · April 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Sanctum Ophidia Trial scaling, rebalancing and the addition of a Normal and Veteran mode

you want scaling quarter of Craglorn trials to please everyone?
are you aware what that means? probably not.
this means that AA, HRC and Dragonstar Arena loot (dropped sets) will not be
the max level in game they will still as useless as they are now.

Volkodav · April 2016

daemonios wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Why should everybody cheer at every item on that list? Each person is entitled to their own opinion. I admit I'm excited about the news myself, but your post seems to imply there's only one correct position on all those things.

BTW, you conveniently left out the nerf to vCoA, vWGT and vICP, which very much does not please me.

Those nerfs weren't a part of that announcement so OP can't really leave something out that wasn't there in the first place.

That is plain wrong. This is a part of the announcement that wasn't quoted in the OP:

In addition, we have numerous changes and improvements for previous DLC game packs including a new District capture system for Imperial City, and rebalancing for the Imperial City dungeons.

The bolded part was later explained by @ZOS_Finn to mean a nerf to the three dungeons I mentioned.

I fixed it.It didnt copy when I highlit it.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2016

daemonios wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Why should everybody cheer at every item on that list? Each person is entitled to their own opinion. I admit I'm excited about the news myself, but your post seems to imply there's only one correct position on all those things.

BTW, you conveniently left out the nerf to vCoA, vWGT and vICP, which very much does not please me.

Those nerfs weren't a part of that announcement so OP can't really leave something out that wasn't there in the first place.

That is plain wrong. This is a part of the announcement that wasn't quoted in the OP:

In addition, we have numerous changes and improvements for previous DLC game packs including a new District capture system for Imperial City, and rebalancing for the Imperial City dungeons.

The bolded part was later explained by @ZOS_Finn to mean a nerf to the three dungeons I mentioned.

My mistake I was looking for it in the base game updates. I will change my comments as well. My apologies.