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[NastyBug]I missed something or CC immune is completely broken?

Sugaroverdose
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yck9HLnd4w
As you can see in vid: when i don't make break free, i don't get cc immunity.
Question is: this is intended change, or regression, or it was always worked this way?
Edited by Sugaroverdose on December 29, 2016 4:03PM
  • AddictionX
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    I wish i could do that with dragons blood.... Templar weakest class in game!
  • Sugaroverdose
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    AddictionX wrote: »
    I wish i could do that with dragons blood.... Templar weakest class in game!
    dk could survive even better in such situation and same gear.

    Something about my question?
    Edited by Sugaroverdose on April 19, 2016 8:38PM
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    If you don't break free, you don't get CC immunity.

    Now, the real question is, how come it took those four players that long to kill someone who was completely out of stamina?
  • Sugaroverdose
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    If you don't break free, you don't get CC immunity.
    Is this TG change?
    Now, the real question is, how come it took those four players that long to kill someone who was completely out of stamina?
    Because it's tank magicka build and those people does not know what to do? Also you can see in this vid, that RD is not OP
  • Zheg
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    If you don't break free, you don't get CC immunity.

    Now, the real question is, how come it took those four players that long to kill someone who was completely out of stamina?
    You're supposed to/should though. Ever cc an npc? They won't cc break, but they get the immunity afterwards.
  • Sugaroverdose
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    Zheg wrote: »
    If you don't break free, you don't get CC immunity.

    Now, the real question is, how come it took those four players that long to kill someone who was completely out of stamina?
    You're supposed to/should though. Ever cc an npc? They won't cc break, but they get the immunity afterwards.
    Good point

    @ZOS_GinaBruno can you say something about that, please?
  • HoloYoitsu
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    CC break and CC immunity has been broken for so long that the official position is now that it's "working as intended".
    HoloYoitsu wrote:
    • 50. CC is broken, often you do not get CC immunity after being CC'd unless you break free of it. See Video.
      [Status: working as intended] Gina: You are not granted CC immunity until the full duration of the CC has ended. Some people may be getting CC'd prior to the duration of the original CC ending, which may be causing some confusion. If you want the CC immunity applied to you before the end of the CC, you must use CC break.
      Me: What you described as intended is the way CC is working now, BUT that is not the way CC used to work for the first year+ of the game's release. It used to be as soon as you were hard CC'd, your character could not be affected by another hard CC. Yes, the CC immunity timer is supposed to begin counting after the duration of the CC ends, but you were also not supposed to be able to be re hard CC'd while still in a hard CC. You say that we should CC break if we want the immunity applied; the issue with that is when we are re hard CC'd from inside the first hard CC, the reapplication of the hard CC animation takes priority over our CC break and prevents us from CC breaking. This pretty much can go on for however many more hard CC animations are thrown at us.

      Then there is a second issue, which is many many times the CC immunity fails to apply automatically after the CC duration ends. In these instances the only way to get CC immunity is by breaking free before the CC ends. This cannot be working as intended.
    Edited by HoloYoitsu on April 19, 2016 9:07PM
  • Sugaroverdose
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    So i must try ff14 after all >.<
    UPD: but wait, gina response does saying that you must not cc break to get cc immunity
    Edited by Sugaroverdose on April 19, 2016 9:16PM
  • AddictionX
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    AddictionX wrote: »
    I wish i could do that with dragons blood.... Templar weakest class in game!
    dk could survive even better in such situation and same gear.

    Something about my question?

    To answer that ...nope. I just posted what i felt like posting... thanks for reading.

    This DK claim... same situation "looks at your resources" .... no sorry... you cannot go from next to the brink of death to next to 100 hp as a dk :/ ... if you used an ultimate perhaps but then thats the way it should be where ulti > regular button skills
    Edited by AddictionX on April 19, 2016 9:18PM
  • AddictionX
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    If you don't break free, you don't get CC immunity.
    Is this TG change?
    Now, the real question is, how come it took those four players that long to kill someone who was completely out of stamina?
    Because it's tank magicka build and those people does not know what to do? Also you can see in this vid, that RD is not OP

    Right but you're block casting/claiming to use tank set up .... why are you suddenly getting all defensive, i wonder :) oh! right... you're a tank, tank = def.
    Edited by AddictionX on April 19, 2016 9:23PM
  • Sugaroverdose
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    @AddictionX i don't get.
    It if you don't have anything to say about main question, please move to another tread
    Edited by Sugaroverdose on April 20, 2016 1:40AM
  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    CC is broken as it is... The real rub is that even with CC immunity after breaking free I'm still seeing a complete neglect of the timer into another CC
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  • PainfulFAFA
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    CC is definitely broken with certain abilities.
    For example: Magnum shot.

    Magnum shot is the new reverb bash in that the CC is broke and 8/10 times it will be unbreakable.
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  • vortexman11
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    In 1.6 there was a bug where some CCs wouldn't give you immunity unless you broke free, this was a confirmed bug and fixed in 1.7

    Now the same bug is back but it was confirmed as a feature... #ZOSLogic
    Edited by vortexman11 on April 20, 2016 6:20AM
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  • DannyLV702
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    My favorite offender lol


    http://youtu.be/PrBv-H_sorU
  • Brrrofski
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    If you don't break free, you don't get CC immunity.

    Now, the real question is, how come it took those four players that long to kill someone who was completely out of stamina?

    Why does everyone think this? It's completely incorrect. Probably the biggest eso myth.

    CC immunity really need fixing. I get double CCed all the time. Super frustrating to die to a broken mechanic.
  • AddictionX
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    @AddictionX i don't get.
    It if you don't have anything to say about main question, please move to another tread

    Suuure you dont ... I made a comment to tell you you cannot go from " next to the brink of death to next to 100 hp as a dk :/ ... if you used an ultimate perhaps but then thats the way it should be where ulti > regular button skills" So yea ... Lets cut the crap and stop playing dumb by attempting to redirect and manipulate... cc is obviously broken lol let me know when ZoS .... . . . wait im stuck in a load screen....give-a-damn.gif:) anyways good day!

    Ill also leave you this meme...take a hint- cause i called you out on your----

    nobullshit.png


    Edited by AddictionX on April 20, 2016 6:45AM
  • Sugaroverdose
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    so ZOSe don't want to reply
  • Magdalina
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    CC break and CC immunity has been broken for so long that the official position is now that it's "working as intended".
    HoloYoitsu wrote:
    • 50. CC is broken, often you do not get CC immunity after being CC'd unless you break free of it. See Video.
      [Status: working as intended] Gina: You are not granted CC immunity until the full duration of the CC has ended. Some people may be getting CC'd prior to the duration of the original CC ending, which may be causing some confusion. If you want the CC immunity applied to you before the end of the CC, you must use CC break.
      Me: What you described as intended is the way CC is working now, BUT that is not the way CC used to work for the first year+ of the game's release. It used to be as soon as you were hard CC'd, your character could not be affected by another hard CC. Yes, the CC immunity timer is supposed to begin counting after the duration of the CC ends, but you were also not supposed to be able to be re hard CC'd while still in a hard CC. You say that we should CC break if we want the immunity applied; the issue with that is when we are re hard CC'd from inside the first hard CC, the reapplication of the hard CC animation takes priority over our CC break and prevents us from CC breaking. This pretty much can go on for however many more hard CC animations are thrown at us.

      Then there is a second issue, which is many many times the CC immunity fails to apply automatically after the CC duration ends. In these instances the only way to get CC immunity is by breaking free before the CC ends. This cannot be working as intended.

    .....Gina's answer actually implies you're supposed to get CC immunity at all if you don't break free?o.O
    This happens to me so rarely I generally just assume you are not lol. Safer this way. 9/10 times letting a CC expire doesn't grant you CC immunity.

    Mobs get CC immunity without breaking free but then (most) mobs can't break free on their own.
    Edited by Magdalina on April 20, 2016 12:33PM
  • Sugaroverdose
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    CC break and CC immunity has been broken for so long that the official position is now that it's "working as intended".
    HoloYoitsu wrote:
    • 50. CC is broken, often you do not get CC immunity after being CC'd unless you break free of it. See Video.
      [Status: working as intended] Gina: You are not granted CC immunity until the full duration of the CC has ended. Some people may be getting CC'd prior to the duration of the original CC ending, which may be causing some confusion. If you want the CC immunity applied to you before the end of the CC, you must use CC break.
      Me: What you described as intended is the way CC is working now, BUT that is not the way CC used to work for the first year+ of the game's release. It used to be as soon as you were hard CC'd, your character could not be affected by another hard CC. Yes, the CC immunity timer is supposed to begin counting after the duration of the CC ends, but you were also not supposed to be able to be re hard CC'd while still in a hard CC. You say that we should CC break if we want the immunity applied; the issue with that is when we are re hard CC'd from inside the first hard CC, the reapplication of the hard CC animation takes priority over our CC break and prevents us from CC breaking. This pretty much can go on for however many more hard CC animations are thrown at us.

      Then there is a second issue, which is many many times the CC immunity fails to apply automatically after the CC duration ends. In these instances the only way to get CC immunity is by breaking free before the CC ends. This cannot be working as intended.

    .....Gina's answer actually implies you're supposed to get CC immunity at all if you don't break free?o.O
    This happens to me so rarely I generally just assume you are not lol. Safer this way. 9/10 times letting a CC expire doesn't grant you CC immunity.

    Mobs get CC immunity without breaking free but then (most) mobs can't break free on their own.
    They can, storm atronach as primer. They don't just because pve guys will cry a lot.
  • staracino_ESO
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    I remember that time when they accidentally gave all humanoid NPC's break free ability. It was like water on an anthill in these here forums.
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