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The unbalance, the bugs, the load screens... on console it's 10x worse as zenimax feel that it's ok to pretty much Kill them game and then leave it for 4-5 months.

Roots - There so strong, stamina builds are ok, magicka are easy kills with them, only templars have a chance. You can't nerf dodge rolling which the pretty much the certain way to get rid of roots and make it so roots have no cc immunity LOL, Fix this , needs a cc timer, needs easy way to remove it, magicka builds need an immunity skill like shuffle.

Shield Stacker - Before the easy mode sorc come in here and are like, easy counter etc... just cc them etc... No decent sorc ever runs out of stamina with tri pots xD , Not sure why people think having 25k+ shields against magicka builds is ok. It's just not, hardened + harness magicka should not be able to stack, should be one or the other. Sorc can throw 10k dmging frags at you, sure high dmg skill but they shouldn't be able to have high dmg and be the best pvp tanks in the game... xD

VD - I use this set, i'm not happy with the set as i feel you shouldn't be punished if someone in your alliance dies next to you, what happens if there just a bad player with a glass build, because their next to you it's ok to be be hit for 10k? Nah REMOVE AOE CAPS then remove this set. In the mean time i need something to kill the mass zerging in the game, pugs will be pugs i guess.

Long Load Screen - These are so annoying especially in times when there's an emp push, you sit in a load screen and after 5 mins the game kindly tells you it's a long one (TY OBVIOUS), happens when you even spawn at a forward camp. Shouldn't be hard to fix it, not sure why zos is regularly failing too.

The Inbalance - Sorc and magicka nb rule pvp. It's a fact, people may argue against it, but everyone knows this is true. This shouldn't be a thing. Things like the templar having a house, dk's not having a class execute because they want that class to be 'different' xD They are not acceptable answers, balance the game.

Bugs - Theres so many annoying ones, your character is perm cc, you can't get on your horse for 10 mins (still not sure of a temp fix this patch... Basically lose the ability to mount until you die), blocking doesn't work half the time, At least try to fix them instead of glossing over them and bringing out useless costumes and boring DLC's.

Healing - Also another one i remembered, If you are going to heal someone you should need to have Line of Sight, This idea that people can spam a heal from 2 floors under and still heal the guy your fighting is stupid. Templars just sit in the corner and heal the zerg running into the keep, they are completely safe and can heal through a wall, come one at least make healing require a bit of effort and a bit of skill, maybe healers will use more than 1 skill and use healing springs or such instead of spamming a skill while facing the wall. Same with healing ward, i go to kill a guy and someone who has no idea and is through 2 walls casts a healing ward which goes onto the guy i'm fighting? What?

I could go on forever but my annoyance has been cured a little bit for now.

#Rantover.
Edited by leepalmer95 on April 17, 2016 8:30PM
PS4 EU DC

Current CP : 756+

I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Tormy
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    Agree
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Tormy wrote: »
    Agree

    +1 insightful for you sir
  • Tryxus
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    #Rantover.

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    My turn!

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    K...can I have your stuff?
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  • leepalmer95
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    #Rantover.

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    Tell it again? Sure

    The unbalance, the bugs, the load screens... on console it's 10x worse as zenimax feel that it's ok to pretty much Kill them game and then leave it for 4-5 months.

    Roots - There so strong, stamina builds are ok, magicka are easy kills with them, only templars have a chance. You can't nerf dodge rolling which the pretty much the certain way to get rid of roots and make it so roots have no cc immunity LOL, Fix these , needs a cc timer, needs easy way to remove it, magicka builds need an immunity skill like shuffle.

    Shield Stacker - Before the easy mode sorc come in here and are like, easy counter etc... just cc them etc... No decent sorc ever runs out of stamina with tri pots xD , Not sure why people think having 25k+ shields against magicka builds is Ok. It's just not, hardened + harness magicka should not be able to stack, should be one or the other. Sorc can throw 10k dmging frags at you, sure high dmg skill but they shouldn't be able to have high dmg and be the best pvp tanks in the game... xD

    VD - I use this set, i'm not happy with the set as i fell you shouldn't be punished if someone in your alliance dies next to you, what happens if there just a bad player with a glass build, because their next to you it's ok to be be hit for 10k? Nah REMOVE AOE CAPS then remove this set. In the mean time i need something to kill the mass zerging in the game, pugs will be pugs i guess.

    Long Load Screen - These are so annoying espically in times when theres an emp push, you sit in a load screen and after 5 mins the game kindly tells you it's a long one (TY OBVIOUS), happens when you even spawn at a forward camp. Shouldn't be hard to fix it, not sure why zos is regularly failing too.

    The Inbalance - Sorc and magicka nb rule pvp. It's a fact, people may argue against it, but everyone knows this is true. This shouldn't be a thing. Things like the templar having a house, dk's not having a class execute because they want that class to be 'different' xD There not acceptable answers, balance the game.

    Bugs - Theres so many annoying ones, your character is perm cc, you can't get on your horse for 10 mins, blocking doesn't work half the time, At least try to fix them instead of glossing over them and bringing out useless costumes and boring DLC's.

    I could go on forever but my annoyance has been cured a little bit for now.

    #Rantover.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Tryxus
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    #Rantover.

    10645d1370120676-focus-st-vs-cayenne-s-cool-story-bro_o_1095006.jpg

    Tell it again? Sure

    The unbalance, the bugs, the load screens... on console it's 10x worse as zenimax feel that it's ok to pretty much Kill them game and then leave it for 4-5 months.

    Roots - There so strong, stamina builds are ok, magicka are easy kills with them, only templars have a chance. You can't nerf dodge rolling which the pretty much the certain way to get rid of roots and make it so roots have no cc immunity LOL, Fix these , needs a cc timer, needs easy way to remove it, magicka builds need an immunity skill like shuffle.

    Shield Stacker - Before the easy mode sorc come in here and are like, easy counter etc... just cc them etc... No decent sorc ever runs out of stamina with tri pots xD , Not sure why people think having 25k+ shields against magicka builds is Ok. It's just not, hardened + harness magicka should not be able to stack, should be one or the other. Sorc can throw 10k dmging frags at you, sure high dmg skill but they shouldn't be able to have high dmg and be the best pvp tanks in the game... xD

    VD - I use this set, i'm not happy with the set as i fell you shouldn't be punished if someone in your alliance dies next to you, what happens if there just a bad player with a glass build, because their next to you it's ok to be be hit for 10k? Nah REMOVE AOE CAPS then remove this set. In the mean time i need something to kill the mass zerging in the game, pugs will be pugs i guess.

    Long Load Screen - These are so annoying espically in times when theres an emp push, you sit in a load screen and after 5 mins the game kindly tells you it's a long one (TY OBVIOUS), happens when you even spawn at a forward camp. Shouldn't be hard to fix it, not sure why zos is regularly failing too.

    The Inbalance - Sorc and magicka nb rule pvp. It's a fact, people may argue against it, but everyone knows this is true. This shouldn't be a thing. Things like the templar having a house, dk's not having a class execute because they want that class to be 'different' xD There not acceptable answers, balance the game.

    Bugs - Theres so many annoying ones, your character is perm cc, you can't get on your horse for 10 mins, blocking doesn't work half the time, At least try to fix them instead of glossing over them and bringing out useless costumes and boring DLC's.

    I could go on forever but my annoyance has been cured a little bit for now.

    #Rantover.

    Would give you a 2nd awesome if I could...

    oh wait, I can :p
    Edited by Tryxus on April 17, 2016 8:11PM
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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  • xxxdcxxx
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    Agreed but the long loading screens have been reduced after thieves guild update
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  • Shader_Shibes
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    Maybe edit your title to "PVP is so broken right now", as, you know, there is more to this game than PVP.
  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    #Rantover.

    10645d1370120676-focus-st-vs-cayenne-s-cool-story-bro_o_1095006.jpg

    Tell it again? Sure

    The unbalance, the bugs, the load screens... on console it's 10x worse as zenimax feel that it's ok to pretty much Kill them game and then leave it for 4-5 months.

    Roots - There so strong, stamina builds are ok, magicka are easy kills with them, only templars have a chance. You can't nerf dodge rolling which the pretty much the certain way to get rid of roots and make it so roots have no cc immunity LOL, Fix these , needs a cc timer, needs easy way to remove it, magicka builds need an immunity skill like shuffle.

    Shield Stacker - Before the easy mode sorc come in here and are like, easy counter etc... just cc them etc... No decent sorc ever runs out of stamina with tri pots xD , Not sure why people think having 25k+ shields against magicka builds is Ok. It's just not, hardened + harness magicka should not be able to stack, should be one or the other. Sorc can throw 10k dmging frags at you, sure high dmg skill but they shouldn't be able to have high dmg and be the best pvp tanks in the game... xD

    VD - I use this set, i'm not happy with the set as i fell you shouldn't be punished if someone in your alliance dies next to you, what happens if there just a bad player with a glass build, because their next to you it's ok to be be hit for 10k? Nah REMOVE AOE CAPS then remove this set. In the mean time i need something to kill the mass zerging in the game, pugs will be pugs i guess.

    Long Load Screen - These are so annoying espically in times when theres an emp push, you sit in a load screen and after 5 mins the game kindly tells you it's a long one (TY OBVIOUS), happens when you even spawn at a forward camp. Shouldn't be hard to fix it, not sure why zos is regularly failing too.

    The Inbalance - Sorc and magicka nb rule pvp. It's a fact, people may argue against it, but everyone knows this is true. This shouldn't be a thing. Things like the templar having a house, dk's not having a class execute because they want that class to be 'different' xD There not acceptable answers, balance the game.

    Bugs - Theres so many annoying ones, your character is perm cc, you can't get on your horse for 10 mins, blocking doesn't work half the time, At least try to fix them instead of glossing over them and bringing out useless costumes and boring DLC's.

    I could go on forever but my annoyance has been cured a little bit for now.

    #Rantover.

    Somebody's angry
  • Jaronking
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    Maybe edit your title to "PVP is so broken right now", as, you know, there is more to this game than PVP.
    Not for all of us some of us only enjoy the PVP portion of the game and would rather do anything else then do PVE.If it wasn't for PVP and the PVP community in this game majority of us wouldn't even be here.

    @leepalmer95 I respect you and we agree on a lot of things when it comes to PVP in this game and some things we don't but every point you made is something that we all agree needs to be fixed but we both know they don't care and won't fix it.I doubt they didn't even read past the first bullet point after they realized this was all PVP related issues. Your just wasting you Breath man and it sad how they turned a beautiful game and PVP experience into crap and don't care about their work enough to even take the time to fix it.All their going to do is milk the casual crowd until they close up shop.I can't wait until PVE have to deal with the Lag we are dealing with its already creeping into the other zones.Hey maybe once that happen they will fixed PVP.When they lose money because they broke PVE as well.
  • leepalmer95
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    #Rantover.

    10645d1370120676-focus-st-vs-cayenne-s-cool-story-bro_o_1095006.jpg

    Tell it again? Sure

    The unbalance, the bugs, the load screens... on console it's 10x worse as zenimax feel that it's ok to pretty much Kill them game and then leave it for 4-5 months.

    Roots - There so strong, stamina builds are ok, magicka are easy kills with them, only templars have a chance. You can't nerf dodge rolling which the pretty much the certain way to get rid of roots and make it so roots have no cc immunity LOL, Fix these , needs a cc timer, needs easy way to remove it, magicka builds need an immunity skill like shuffle.

    Shield Stacker - Before the easy mode sorc come in here and are like, easy counter etc... just cc them etc... No decent sorc ever runs out of stamina with tri pots xD , Not sure why people think having 25k+ shields against magicka builds is Ok. It's just not, hardened + harness magicka should not be able to stack, should be one or the other. Sorc can throw 10k dmging frags at you, sure high dmg skill but they shouldn't be able to have high dmg and be the best pvp tanks in the game... xD

    VD - I use this set, i'm not happy with the set as i fell you shouldn't be punished if someone in your alliance dies next to you, what happens if there just a bad player with a glass build, because their next to you it's ok to be be hit for 10k? Nah REMOVE AOE CAPS then remove this set. In the mean time i need something to kill the mass zerging in the game, pugs will be pugs i guess.

    Long Load Screen - These are so annoying espically in times when theres an emp push, you sit in a load screen and after 5 mins the game kindly tells you it's a long one (TY OBVIOUS), happens when you even spawn at a forward camp. Shouldn't be hard to fix it, not sure why zos is regularly failing too.

    The Inbalance - Sorc and magicka nb rule pvp. It's a fact, people may argue against it, but everyone knows this is true. This shouldn't be a thing. Things like the templar having a house, dk's not having a class execute because they want that class to be 'different' xD There not acceptable answers, balance the game.

    Bugs - Theres so many annoying ones, your character is perm cc, you can't get on your horse for 10 mins, blocking doesn't work half the time, At least try to fix them instead of glossing over them and bringing out useless costumes and boring DLC's.

    I could go on forever but my annoyance has been cured a little bit for now.

    #Rantover.

    Somebody's angry

    A Ctrl + V = Anger?
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Shader_Shibes
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Maybe edit your title to "PVP is so broken right now", as, you know, there is more to this game than PVP.
    Not for all of us some of us only enjoy the PVP portion of the game and would rather do anything else then do PVE.If it wasn't for PVP and the PVP community in this game majority of us wouldn't even be here.

    And thats fair enough, i'm just saying his thread title is a little, misleading.
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Maybe edit your title to "PVP is so broken right now", as, you know, there is more to this game than PVP.
    Not for all of us some of us only enjoy the PVP portion of the game and would rather do anything else then do PVE.If it wasn't for PVP and the PVP community in this game majority of us wouldn't even be here.

    And thats fair enough, i'm just saying his thread title is a little, misleading.

    If you want to go towards the pve side i guess you could argue a lot of pve sets aren't scaled, theres only 1 trial that is v16 making the other trials redundant and therefore haven't been scaled, VDSA hasn't been scaled, all the best pve is behind DLC walls and zos have pretty much abandoned base game pve.

    In other words if you want challenging pve or actually want pve with actual worthwhile rewards then you need to pay for it.

    But i'm not exactly a pve'er not anymore got bored of that and am now 99% pvp with 1% pledges when i can actually be bothered doing them.

    Anyway back to the pvp rant.
    Edited by leepalmer95 on April 17, 2016 11:15PM
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • hoaxburnrwb17_ESO
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    The unbalance, the bugs, the load screens... on console it's 10x worse as zenimax feel that it's ok to pretty much Kill them game and then leave it for 4-5 months.

    Roots - There so strong, stamina builds are ok, magicka are easy kills with them, only templars have a chance. You can't nerf dodge rolling which the pretty much the certain way to get rid of roots and make it so roots have no cc immunity LOL, Fix this , needs a cc timer, needs easy way to remove it, magicka builds need an immunity skill like shuffle.

    Shield Stacker - Before the easy mode sorc come in here and are like, easy counter etc... just cc them etc... No decent sorc ever runs out of stamina with tri pots xD , Not sure why people think having 25k+ shields against magicka builds is ok. It's just not, hardened + harness magicka should not be able to stack, should be one or the other. Sorc can throw 10k dmging frags at you, sure high dmg skill but they shouldn't be able to have high dmg and be the best pvp tanks in the game... xD

    VD - I use this set, i'm not happy with the set as i feel you shouldn't be punished if someone in your alliance dies next to you, what happens if there just a bad player with a glass build, because their next to you it's ok to be be hit for 10k? Nah REMOVE AOE CAPS then remove this set. In the mean time i need something to kill the mass zerging in the game, pugs will be pugs i guess.

    Long Load Screen - These are so annoying especially in times when there's an emp push, you sit in a load screen and after 5 mins the game kindly tells you it's a long one (TY OBVIOUS), happens when you even spawn at a forward camp. Shouldn't be hard to fix it, not sure why zos is regularly failing too.

    The Inbalance - Sorc and magicka nb rule pvp. It's a fact, people may argue against it, but everyone knows this is true. This shouldn't be a thing. Things like the templar having a house, dk's not having a class execute because they want that class to be 'different' xD They are not acceptable answers, balance the game.

    Bugs - Theres so many annoying ones, your character is perm cc, you can't get on your horse for 10 mins (still not sure of a temp fix this patch... Basically lose the ability to mount until you die), blocking doesn't work half the time, At least try to fix them instead of glossing over them and bringing out useless costumes and boring DLC's.

    Healing - Also another one i remembered, If you are going to heal someone you should need to have Line of Sight, This idea that people can spam a heal from 2 floors under and still heal the guy your fighting is stupid. Templars just sit in the corner and heal the zerg running into the keep, they are completely safe and can heal through a wall, come one at least make healing require a bit of effort and a bit of skill, maybe healers will use more than 1 skill and use healing springs or such instead of spamming a skill while facing the wall. Same with healing ward, i go to kill a guy and someone who has no idea and is through 2 walls casts a healing ward which goes onto the guy i'm fighting? What?

    I could go on forever but my annoyance has been cured a little bit for now.

    #Rantover.


    I don't know what youre talking about, the game is great on pc.
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    This Forum Community is so whiny right now.
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  • STEVIL
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    Another PVP rant by someone who possibly mistook General for the PVP specific forums?

    How wonderful.

    Thanks for sharing your views.

    However, there are dedicated PVP forum sections where your sentiments may find less confusion when you choose to leave "PVP only" out of your title, assuming bringing in non-PVPers to a PVP-specific thread wasn't your intent.

    Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
    YFMV Your Fun May Vary.

    First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
    "The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."

  • leepalmer95
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    STEVIL wrote: »
    Another PVP rant by someone who possibly mistook General for the PVP specific forums?

    How wonderful.

    Thanks for sharing your views.

    However, there are dedicated PVP forum sections where your sentiments may find less confusion when you choose to leave "PVP only" out of your title, assuming bringing in non-PVPers to a PVP-specific thread wasn't your intent.

    Oh since when did General discussion mean non pvp only? Pretty sure General means any topic. This is a topic and it is general, seems like it belongs right here.

    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Pallio
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    Agreed, can't wait to finish grinding proxy Det on my last toon, so I can ignore PVP again.
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    Oh since when did General discussion mean non pvp only? Pretty sure General means any topic. This is a topic and it is general, seems like it belongs right here.

    Well, by that logic then, why have any specific subject forums?

    OBVIOUSLY, crafting is a topic.
    So lets take lotsa crafters needed threads out of that area and just spam them here where more people will see them.

    There are no dedicated PVE sections for general and combat (the specific quest areas dont qualify) but there ARE specific PVP sections which, for some reason, the PVPers dont seem to be wanting to put their PVP specific threads into as well as they cant even be bothered to put PVP tags in their subject lines in General.

    It seems like posts from posters with other focuses which HAVE specific topics, like crafting, make an effort to put them there and not spam them into General with misleading subject lines.

    So, to me, there seems to be a difference in how PVPers manage their posting and how others do.

    I could be wrong.

    Maybe there are hoards of crafting posts daily, repeatedly in general with subject lines not indicating they are about only crafting.

    Now, if the forum powers that be would create PVE specific general and combat sections AND the PVPers would then respect that, that would be a thing. But i haven't seen many who believe the latter would be true.

    So, maybe if everyone posting followed the PVP lead with misleading subject lines all posted into general instead of their specific areas instead of just the PVPers, the congestion would create more impetus for a change or reasonable thread topic policing.

    Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
    YFMV Your Fun May Vary.

    First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
    "The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."

  • Therwind
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    xxxdcxxx wrote: »
    Agreed but the long loading screens have been reduced after thieves guild update

    Just lol to this.

    To the OP and tons of other people.

    Balance means everyone is exactly the same, why on earth would you want that? Saying balance everything is dumb and boring(no offense) you're basically saying no classes, no levels, no races, nothing. I'm sure you probably love the idea of getting to max level in 3 hours also, thanks to VR removal you can! Yay!

    To the aoe cap removal...
    Yes this would be cool but saying fix the lag and remove aoe caps is also dumb. ( for this game) I couldn't imagine the lag and freezes we would be getting on console. Hitting burning talons with 30 people on screen( if it even activates) lmao this would cause crashing and most diffidently freezing. I know you didn't say lag but you said bugs and it's kinda the same problem. FYI, I'm not calling you dumb, just saying " fix the lag/bugs and remove aoe caps" in the same sentence is.


    Edited by Therwind on April 18, 2016 5:18AM
  • STEVIL
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    Therwind wrote: »
    Balance means everyone is exactly the same, why on earth would you want that? Saying balance everything is dumb and boring(no offense) you're basically saying no classes, no levels, no races, nothing.

    This is simply not true.

    I can have ten fives, two twenties and a ten and one fifty and still have "balanced buying power" without them all being the same.

    The key is, as is implemented to varying degrees of success, NOT focusing balance too small, on the individual elements that make up a character, but on the whole, all aspects taken together.

    That is why threads where posters focus on "this execute is..." "that gap closer is..." "this weapon line has too..." etc miss the boat IMO.

    IF those kind of myopic focus ideas rule the day then YES you can move towards a lot of sameness.

    But ass long as the focus for balance remains on the whole, sum of all parts, total package you can easily have dynamic equilibrium and overall balance without "exactly the same."

    that is why it is very crucial IMO to not go the "build from keel up" approach with things like no classes approach or spellcrafting. They force "balance" to the elemental scale and that does tend over time to drive to sameness.

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    (...) Roots - There so strong, stamina builds are ok, magicka are easy kills with them, (...)


    The Inbalance - Sorc and magicka nb rule pvp. (...)

    l2p

    Problem of ESO: CP system is too strong. 25% max boost = balance impossible.
  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    #Rantover.

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    Tell it again? Sure

    The unbalance, the bugs, the load screens... on console it's 10x worse as zenimax feel that it's ok to pretty much Kill them game and then leave it for 4-5 months.

    Roots - There so strong, stamina builds are ok, magicka are easy kills with them, only templars have a chance. You can't nerf dodge rolling which the pretty much the certain way to get rid of roots and make it so roots have no cc immunity LOL, Fix these , needs a cc timer, needs easy way to remove it, magicka builds need an immunity skill like shuffle.

    Shield Stacker - Before the easy mode sorc come in here and are like, easy counter etc... just cc them etc... No decent sorc ever runs out of stamina with tri pots xD , Not sure why people think having 25k+ shields against magicka builds is Ok. It's just not, hardened + harness magicka should not be able to stack, should be one or the other. Sorc can throw 10k dmging frags at you, sure high dmg skill but they shouldn't be able to have high dmg and be the best pvp tanks in the game... xD

    VD - I use this set, i'm not happy with the set as i fell you shouldn't be punished if someone in your alliance dies next to you, what happens if there just a bad player with a glass build, because their next to you it's ok to be be hit for 10k? Nah REMOVE AOE CAPS then remove this set. In the mean time i need something to kill the mass zerging in the game, pugs will be pugs i guess.

    Long Load Screen - These are so annoying espically in times when theres an emp push, you sit in a load screen and after 5 mins the game kindly tells you it's a long one (TY OBVIOUS), happens when you even spawn at a forward camp. Shouldn't be hard to fix it, not sure why zos is regularly failing too.

    The Inbalance - Sorc and magicka nb rule pvp. It's a fact, people may argue against it, but everyone knows this is true. This shouldn't be a thing. Things like the templar having a house, dk's not having a class execute because they want that class to be 'different' xD There not acceptable answers, balance the game.

    Bugs - Theres so many annoying ones, your character is perm cc, you can't get on your horse for 10 mins, blocking doesn't work half the time, At least try to fix them instead of glossing over them and bringing out useless costumes and boring DLC's.

    I could go on forever but my annoyance has been cured a little bit for now.

    #Rantover.

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    All those dollars add up to the "same" amount and I would rather have a 50 dollar bill rather than 5 ten dollar bills therfore, the 50 dollar bill is OP IMO.

    I understand where you're coming from and I'm glad you put forth a good explanation but You have to admit that this game will most likely take the easy route and make everything the same because of everyone asking for balance.

    I don't see an issue in this to begin with.

    Sorcs get endless shields and magica

    No decent DK should ever die in 1v1 versus any class. You might not be able to kill anybody but you shouldn't die for the most part.

    NB's get to one shot people and go invis.

    Templars get to spam one button in PVE and heal to max health with one button.

    Every class has a very unique feel (I play all) and IMO is great. Yes every class also has their unique weakness.
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    Therwind wrote: »
    xxxdcxxx wrote: »
    Agreed but the long loading screens have been reduced after thieves guild update

    Just lol to this.

    To the OP and tons of other people.

    Balance means everyone is exactly the same, why on earth would you want that? Saying balance everything is dumb and boring(no offense) you're basically saying no classes, no levels, no races, nothing. I'm sure you probably love the idea of getting to max level in 3 hours also, thanks to VR removal you can! Yay!

    To the aoe cap removal...
    Yes this would be cool but saying fix the lag and remove aoe caps is also dumb. ( for this game) I couldn't imagine the lag and freezes we would be getting on console. Hitting burning talons with 30 people on screen( if it even activates) lmao this would cause crashing and most diffidently freezing. I know you didn't say lag but you said bugs and it's kinda the same problem. FYI, I'm not calling you dumb, just saying " fix the lag/bugs and remove aoe caps" in the same sentence is.


    On PC before they put the caps in, the game in Cyrodiil tan smoother. We easily had 100+ people on screen in siege battles for keeps with little to no lag (depending on system, graphic settings, and internet speeds of course). But, here's the kicker, 6 people could hold 40+ out of a keep through a choke point. So it's a damned if you do and a damned if you don't. but not having the caps doesn't create more lag. At least it didn't in the pass for PC.
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  • Therwind
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    Xundiin wrote: »
    Therwind wrote: »
    xxxdcxxx wrote: »
    Agreed but the long loading screens have been reduced after thieves guild update

    Just lol to this.

    To the OP and tons of other people.

    Balance means everyone is exactly the same, why on earth would you want that? Saying balance everything is dumb and boring(no offense) you're basically saying no classes, no levels, no races, nothing. I'm sure you probably love the idea of getting to max level in 3 hours also, thanks to VR removal you can! Yay!

    To the aoe cap removal...
    Yes this would be cool but saying fix the lag and remove aoe caps is also dumb. ( for this game) I couldn't imagine the lag and freezes we would be getting on console. Hitting burning talons with 30 people on screen( if it even activates) lmao this would cause crashing and most diffidently freezing. I know you didn't say lag but you said bugs and it's kinda the same problem. FYI, I'm not calling you dumb, just saying " fix the lag/bugs and remove aoe caps" in the same sentence is.


    On PC before they put the caps in, the game in Cyrodiil tan smoother. We easily had 100+ people on screen in siege battles for keeps with little to no lag (depending on system, graphic settings, and internet speeds of course). But, here's the kicker, 6 people could hold 40+ out of a keep through a choke point. So it's a damned if you do and a damned if you don't. but not having the caps doesn't create more lag. At least it didn't in the pass for PC.

    Yes I played back then, which seems like a decade ago. I was trying to point out in the least words possible that they removed aoe caps because consoles will not be able to handle it. I can't even quest in Cyrodill anymore without freezing. 10v10 pvp is great but anymore than that has always been unplayable for me.
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    So great how people can complain about the same things again and again. Oh wait. No. It's actually a bit annoying. Good thing they write and not talk... And no, I won't try YouTube.
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    Valorin wrote: »
    So great how people can complain about the same things again and again. Oh wait. No. It's actually a bit annoying. Good thing they write and not talk... And no, I won't try YouTube.

    And do you ever wonder why it is so many people are complaining about the SAME things...? Do you wonder why it is people on each and every platform, both EU and NA, on all alliances have the SAME complaints...? Or better yet, why do you think more and more complaints are appearing...?
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