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Do You Think "DARK BROTHERHOOD" is Last Chance of ZOS

TheHsN
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i think if dark brother is unsuccessful like last DLC Thievs G. they will lose many players...AND i see this DLC will make sure the Future of ZOS ...

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  • MikeB
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    You're still playing? I quit when TG was announced. I check the forums and log on once every month or two for hope but nothing yet.
  • Voxicity
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    MikeB wrote: »
    You're still playing? I quit when TG was announced. I check the forums and log on once every month or two for hope but nothing yet.

    You literally sniped this thread in less than 2 minutes. I'm sure you'll be back playing soon.
  • Ra'Shtar
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    To be completely honest its the last chance many people are giving this game, they need to improve performance when DB comes or they are are seriously going to loose a lot of pvp players, there is also the issue of the hundreds of bugs this game has some of them from launch like the mailing one.

    EDIT: It also does not help that if it ends being bad the gaming websites out there are not going to be kind with ESO because they have never been, bad reviews ruined the rep of this game and can do it again.

    Edited by Ra'Shtar on April 17, 2016 8:06AM
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  • phaneub17_ESO
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    I have no DLC's still playing the base game without a subscription. I'm content with what I got, two characters at VR16 another coming up at VR10, and got 8/9 on all crafting traits minus nirnhoned. It will be some time before I give in and do get a DLC, but otherwise I'm fine with most of what this game has to offer. At least until Legion comes out and then I spend time leveling a Demon Hunter.
  • LadyNalcarya
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    Depends on the type of players, but if it will be as buggy as TG, then it wont be any good for Zos.
    Visuals/level design/quests have improved compared to the vanilla game, and I like the new content, but the bugs sometimes wont let me enjoy it, and this is really annoying.
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  • BlackEar
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    Uhh.. I believe ESO is doing fine and more players are joining. This is just how I feel, though, and what ZOS states in some of their interviews. So I don't think this is their last chance at all.

    They really should fix PVP though.
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  • MikeB
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    Vox wrote: »
    MikeB wrote: »
    You're still playing? I quit when TG was announced. I check the forums and log on once every month or two for hope but nothing yet.

    You literally sniped this thread in less than 2 minutes. I'm sure you'll be back playing soon.

    The people I used to play with would say differently. Being I was the best healer (their words, not mine) we had they've been begging me for months to play atleast 1-2 dungeons with them and I haven't.

    Also this was the first thread I saw when I pulled up General.
    Edited by MikeB on April 17, 2016 8:09AM
  • Frawr
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    deleted.
    Edited by Frawr on April 17, 2016 8:17AM
  • ArchMikem
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    Only thing I'm looking forward to is removal of the Veteran Ranks. Means I won't have to grind my way to Vet16 anymore and I'll suddenly have two level capped characters.
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  • Tyrac
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    What isnt helping are the people who claim everything is fine and we should stop complaining, check your connection, hardware etc...
  • Bigevilpeter
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    The movement to consoles gave them a loooooot of new players and the game is doing pretty fine because of that. Even if some players quit it won't hurt their overall performance.

    Personally I don't see myself quitting anytime soon
  • thomas1970b16_ESO
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    I love this game more and more :-)
  • GaldorP
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    I think financially they're doing pretty well (though I don't really know that, it's just based on my impressions in the game).
    What worries me a bit is that there is currently very little content announced for the future. Dark Brotherhood has been announced as the next big update and DLC (Update 10). We know there will be crafting bags and that veteran ranks will be removed. From what I gathered it's not certain that the barber shop will be released at the same time. And that's pretty much all the concrete info I have about future updates of ESO (please tell me if I missed something). I assume Murkmire or Clockwork City will come after Dark Brotherhood, and at some point housing or arenas (but no sneak peek on any of those things) so not certain if or when those things will be released. I hope they post some more info about the Dark Brotherhood update soonish.

    Edit: Speaking about the gameplay/game design perspective, I still think the game's main flaw is that it's mostly a single-player game with lots of one-time completion content, still too little repeatable stuff and meaningful reward systems for endgame (bind on pickup item rewards systems have too much randomization, players have too little control over what they get [Veteran Maelstrom Arena, Undaunted Shoulders, Wrothgar Dailies], there's not enough rare item rewards that are tradable; there's no near infinite time sink gear-wise in ESO [for example a system that adds random attributes to an item which you can reroll if you spend certain rare materials, or an over-enchant system]). There's no item reward mechanic that keeps someone who's reached Champion Rank 501 (and many long-time players on PC have reached it by now) and who has the gear they want playing. Having a few new motifs to grind out in every new DLC is not enough to keep every long-term player interested in the game.
    The 2nd major flaw (that I consider to be a flaw but I know that some players like that about ESO) is that there's very little need to work together with other players in almost any area of the game. No mechanic that incentivizes joining a guild and working together on a common goal (there could be levels/ranks/or leaderboards for guilds, or at least an ingame guild database that shows how active a guild is in different areas of the game; there could also be special guild quests, guild passive skills, active skills that work only on guild members, etc.). There are also no dedicated crafting or material gathering classes in ESO, everyone can be a master of all professions and almost all skill lines at the same time. World boss quests in Wrothgar are pretty much the only non-instanced PvE content where you see random players do something together in PvE (because the game incentivizes it here: most players aren't strong enough to solo these bosses, you can only do all 6 quests if someone else shares them with you, you have a better chance to get loot from the boss, and you can finish the quest faster while in a group).
    Edited by GaldorP on April 17, 2016 9:38AM
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  • Loralai_907
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    Yes. I think DB is going to influence a lot. I have my suspicions. But I am not going to talk about them here. All I feel comfortable saying is pay attention.
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Why do you say that TG DLC was unsuccessful ? Source ?
  • JD2013
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    Sky is falling. ESO is shutting down. ZOS pls reply.
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  • Mojmir
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Sky is falling. ESO is shutting down. ZOS pls reply.

    No news,is good news?
  • mb10
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    Hahaha! See you ALL on the DB release day with the new mount and outfits too.

    Also see you ALL on the forums too when it comes it moaning and will finally see you ALL at the next update too.

  • Nova Sky
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    *shrug* I don't plan on shelving ESO anytime soon.

    Oh, I'll take a break from time to time, especially with the final Uncharted game coming out soon, but I like ESO (mostly), and so do a fair number of my friends ... so, ESO will remain as one of my go-to games to enjoy after a long day/night of earning a paycheck.
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  • Volkodav
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    TheHsN wrote: »
    i think if dark brother is unsuccessful like last DLC Thievs G. they will lose many players...AND i see this DLC will make sure the Future of ZOS ...

    Thank you.

    What started you thinking this weird idea?
    The DB DLC isnt going to be the end of anything.Jesus.
    Everyone here seems to think that ZOS will just throw in the towal because a few forums members say the games is at it's last chance,last ditch,etc.
    ESO is fine.There are a small percentage of players in these forums,and they do NOT speak for the entire player base.
  • Danikat
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    I'm not worried simply because I've seen people describe every update since the game came out as their "last chance" before everyone quits and the game fails.

    Apparently they've failed to live up to expectations almost every time and, oh look we're all still here.
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  • Van_0S
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    BlackEar wrote: »
    Uhh.. I believe ESO is doing fine and more players are joining. This is just how I feel, though, and what ZOS states in some of their interviews. So I don't think this is their last chance at all.

    They really should fix PVP though.

    Nope!!
    It is their last chance,why?
    Because, many good mmo games have come this year. Blade and soul, BDO,etc.

    I have switched to blade and soul, atm.
  • Van_0S
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm not worried simply because I've seen people describe every update since the game came out as their "last chance" before everyone quits and the game fails.

    Apparently they've failed to live up to expectations almost every time and, oh look we're all still here.

    We all are still here because its buy to play ... If not, we will be long gone for good.

  • NinjaApacHe
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    Forum people are the vocal minority that most of times ruin the games. ESO si doing fine and it's healthy. So you are just trying to pull people to your side. Bad side I must say.
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm not worried simply because I've seen people describe every update since the game came out as their "last chance" before everyone quits and the game fails.

    Apparently they've failed to live up to expectations almost every time and, oh look we're all still here.

    We all are still here because its buy to play ... If not, we will be long gone for good.

    Why wait? By all means get lost.
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  • Van_0S
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I'm not worried simply because I've seen people describe every update since the game came out as their "last chance" before everyone quits and the game fails.

    Apparently they've failed to live up to expectations almost every time and, oh look we're all still here.

    We all are still here because its buy to play ... If not, we will be long gone for good.

    Why wait? By all means get lost.

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  • Lysette
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    BlackEar wrote: »
    Uhh.. I believe ESO is doing fine and more players are joining. This is just how I feel, though, and what ZOS states in some of their interviews. So I don't think this is their last chance at all.

    They really should fix PVP though.

    This - most of the issues are PvP related - well not those of the 64-bit client, but they will sort it out eventually. Otherwise from my experience in low level zones, the population of this game is in a very healthy state. PvE is not really having a lot of issues, at least not when it comes to solo content, which is IMO that what attracts most players and feels the most like a single-player game. A lot might never before have played an MMO and are missing nothing and can enjoy the content as it is, because it feels like what they are used to. And this seems to be the intention of ZOS anyway, an expansive online RPG.

    As far as PvP goes, I see no hope for this until there will be a serious effort to destroy zergs. As long as zergs are around, there is no proper way to solve this technically. It has to be solved game mechanic-wise and so far I see no effort in changing those to the better. So I would not bet on that this will get better anytime soon.
  • Oldmanlawlor
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    I'm rather happy with ESO, but the Thieves Guild was a laughable paid DLC.
  • Silver_Strider
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    While I don't believe ESO is as huge a success as I'd have liked it to be and that I feel ZOS is slowly failing their audience as time goes on, I don't think DB will be the nail in the coffin should it prove to be successful or not. For me, it is how well they balance everything out in the end that will determine whether or not I officially quit the game.

    Balance of the game is just terrible. 2h is practically required for PvP if you're stamina, High Elf is the hands down greatest race for magic with the lone exception being Dunmer DKs in terms of DPS, all points into 1 stat for optimal DPS. It's all so stupid and has really dulled my enjoyment of the game over the course of time.

    I did enjoy the TG and it gave me some degree of hope that ZOS would improve but not enough to sway my opinion that they are slowly killing what could have been an amazing game
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