Why can't we *** gain cp while lvling new alts?

Gothlander · April 2016

The cp grind prevents me from playing my *** alts. Im at 103 cp on my v16 toon but I want to play my lvl 3 sorc. But it sucks because we don't gain cp.

Reevster · April 2016

Your not suppose to until after lvl 50, live with it, gezzzz you lucky you get them shared at all.

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Ourorboros · April 2016

Having a bad day, are we? The Champion Point system was designed to replace Veteran Ranks. It makes sense that it does not kick in until you reach level 50. To turn this around, would you have expected to gain Veteran Ranks before you hit level 50?

vyrusb23 · April 2016

Gothlander wrote: »

The cp grind prevents me from playing my *** alts. Im at 103 cp on my v16 toon but I want to play my lvl 3 sorc. But it sucks because we don't gain cp.

My god. ZoS ... damned if they do, damned if they don't.

ArchMikem · April 2016

Gothlander wrote: »

The cp grind prevents me from playing my *** alts. Im at 103 cp on my v16 toon but I want to play my lvl 3 sorc. But it sucks because we don't gain cp.

Your 103 points are accessible on all your characters, I learned that when making my second and noticed I had a crap ton of points to use. You get the downside of only earning CP after Lvl50 but the bonus of being able to use them on a brand new character.

Korah_Eaglecry · April 2016

Honestly it does not take that long to get an Alt to VR1. Less then a week if all youre doing is grinding and just about a week or a little more if youre questing.

Always someone that feels entitled to things because they dont want to put the effort in.

Samadhi · April 2016

Ourorboros wrote: »

Having a bad day, are we? The Champion Point system was designed to replace Veteran Ranks. It makes sense that it does not kick in until you reach level 50. To turn this around, would you have expected to gain Veteran Ranks before you hit level 50?

Bolded/italcized is the entirety of the reason.
It will all make more sense once Vet ranks are dropped.
Meanwhile, at least the Enlightenment system builds up while leveling alts.

Tryxus · April 2016

Thought this was gonna be a rage thread when I saw the *** in the thread title. Now I'm disappointed and I have this huge bucket of popcorn...

Anyways...

Your character is only a Champion once he/she reaches lvl 50, so it makes sense that CP progression should start at max lvl. Even if the character is an alt

myrrrorb14_ESO · April 2016

Well take heart in the fact that you can store up to 12(?) days worth of inspiration. So you can play your low level alt for a long time and then switch to your main (if you didn't hit vet in that time) and rack up some fast champion points!

Refuse2GrowUp · April 2016

Remember, you accrue enlightenment when either logged out or when on a non-vet toon. So, your time on an alt isn't wasted since you will accrue enlightenment and get CPs that much quicker when either on your vet toon or once your alt hits vet. Not that you don't already get CPs at a breakneck speed with the catch up mechanism and only 103 CP.

I may be wrong, but I believe you can accrue up to 14 days enlightenment.

wayfarerx · April 2016

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

I may be wrong, but I believe you can accrue up to 14 days enlightenment.

It's 12 days, but otherwise you are correct.

KingYogi415 · April 2016

Step 1: Go kill zombies till 200 cp

Step 2: Profit

Leandor · April 2016

Does the amount of XP required for 1 to 50 even suffice for 1 CP?

Apparently it does. 1 to 50 nets you a whopping 3.8 cp. Totally worth it.

Azzuria · April 2016

Really?

That's like asking why you get wet in the bloody shower.

Lucious90 · April 2016

Troll OP..... Honestly its a blessing its shared man, as they could of said, each character gets its own set of CP skills that have to be earned after 50

Volkodav · April 2016

Once you get them with a Vet,they're shared on any characters you create,so what's the problem?

redspecter23 · April 2016

Leandor wrote: »

Does the amount of XP required for 1 to 50 even suffice for 1 CP?

Apparently it does. 1 to 50 nets you a whopping 3.8 cp. Totally worth it.

There's the answer right there. Even if you did get cp from 1 to 50, you wouldn't even get 4 whole points. Not worth bothering at all. Better to let enlightenment build up while you level from 1 to 50 then use that stored up enlightenment when you hit V1. The alternative the OP asks for might actually be mathematically worse depending on how long it takes someone to go from one to 50.

Leandor · April 2016

redspecter23 wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

Does the amount of XP required for 1 to 50 even suffice for 1 CP?

Apparently it does. 1 to 50 nets you a whopping 3.8 cp. Totally worth it.

There's the answer right there. Even if you did get cp from 1 to 50, you wouldn't even get 4 whole points. Not worth bothering at all. Better to let enlightenment build up while you level from 1 to 50 then use that stored up enlightenment when you hit V1. The alternative the OP asks for might actually be mathematically worse depending on how long it takes someone to go from one to 50.

Math hard. I managed to mess it up. It's actually 2.8, not 3.8 cp.

nimander99 · April 2016

If we hit 50 on one character on our account then it should unlock the ability to earn CP's on any characters doing anything. Its arbitrary to make us level a alt to 50 before it can earn CP's. This is the main reason I haven't leveled any alts.

Callous2208 · April 2016

nimander99 wrote: »

If we hit 50 on one character on our account then it should unlock the ability to earn CP's on any characters doing anything. Its arbitrary to make us level a alt to 50 before it can earn CP's. This is the main reason I haven't leveled any alts.

Did you not read the few posts before yours? Is it really worth that grand total of 2.8 cp's you would earn from 1-50 if they allowed it?

Runs · April 2016

Is that 2.8cp calculated on the old 400,000 exp needed or calculated with the new way lower catch up system exp requirements?

Gothlander · April 2016

nimander99 wrote: »

If we hit 50 on one character on our account then it should unlock the ability to earn CP's on any characters doing anything. Its arbitrary to make us level a alt to 50 before it can earn CP's. This is the main reason I haven't leveled any alts.

^^^This all the way!

Bookwyrm · April 2016

I actually focused on leveling my alts not that long ago so that when I decided to play them I would also be earning CP on them, plus they could start accruing enlightenment while I wasn't playing them. I was surprised that it really didn't take me long at all to hit VR1, because it seemed to take forever on my first character (of course, I spent a lot more time exploring and gathering mats while leveling her, so that might be why). But yeah, I don't see why non-vet characters should be earning CP, especially when you consider how few they'd get anyway.

And it's not arbitrary. As mentioned, Champion Points were (and maybe still are?) the mechanism to replace vet ranks, so why should non-vet (under 50) characters be able to earn them? They already can use the ones you've earned on other characters, I think that's generous enough.

Gidorick · April 2016

I've asked this before... I take it even one step further: Let us gain CPs from level 1 on any character.

Of course, I think CPs shouldn't be used for things like gear requirement or provisioning levels. I disagree with this design, but ZOS isn't going to change their minds now.

phaneub17_ESO · April 2016

Your CP gained makes your lower level Alts level faster, much faster if you focus them heavily on more damage and recovery that you can breeze through content marginally faster than a character that doesn't have any CP at all.

Ourorboros · April 2016

It's ridiculous easy to level an alt to 50. Players have done it in less than a day. If you go through every quest in every zone, you should be at level 50 in zone 5 or 6, before you get to Cold Harbor. If you use XP scrolls or pots, you don't even have to do any quests but the main ones that give skill points. Add in a little time in DLC and you are level 50 in no time. If you didn't take advantage of the anniversary cake, shame on you.
The only ones with a real complaint about CP are those of us who are CP capped. I'm happy to play my low level alts, so I don't have to see yet another CP that I can't use.

Moonshadow66 · April 2016

How about this:
We can gain CP with a low-level character, but we only can spend them when we hit VR1?

Gothlander · April 2016

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

How about this:
We can gain CP with a low-level character, but we only can spend them when we hit VR1?

I'll take it!

Moonshadow66 · April 2016

Gothlander wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

How about this:
We can gain CP with a low-level character, but we only can spend them when we hit VR1?

I'll take it!

I knew it!

CaptainBeerDude · April 2016

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

How about this:
We can gain CP with a low-level character, but we only can spend them when we hit VR1?

Nope. I'll spend them and wait til 50 to gain.

TheShadowScout · April 2016

Play veteran character until using up enlightment, then play non-veteran character to level. That's how I did it back before all my eight were veterans...

But the thing is, you get normal levels until 50, and then the system switches over to c-points (well, right now there is still the dual system with VR and CP, but... you get the idea...). Pre-50 gain levels for your expees, post-50 gain CP for your expees. Easy to get, right? Getting loads of CP is super easy when you have none anyhow, thanks to catchup. Asking for even more... for gaining them while levelling your lowbies... is somewhat greedy IMO...

Like I mentioned the first time the OP made a thread about this very matter... if anything, playing lowbies should maaaaybe extend enlightment time. Which is almost as good as earning CP, but keeping the earning times strictly apart per character...