hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
I think the general sentiment in the thread you are speaking of was not that console people are bad players or worse players than PC. The thread stated that PC has more tools at their disposal to statistically analyze combat.
I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
Brain Power is low in this thread ontop of not raiding for like 2 weeks weve wpent a total of 14 hours on last boss
Sooo.... even if they finished before us as you say (whether that is true or not) we still progressed easier then them and even hodor.....
Ill keep saying it... see you all at end of patch... we'll see whos on top then
I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
Brain Power is low in this thread ontop of not raiding for like 2 weeks weve wpent a total of 14 hours on last boss
Sooo.... even if they finished before us as you say (whether that is true or not) we still progressed easier then them and even hodor.....
Ill keep saying it... see you all at end of patch... we'll see whos on top then
Brah please stahp lel.
If you had been better you would have done it before us and Beyond. Kappa. Get over it.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
I think the general sentiment in the thread you are speaking of was not that console people are bad players or worse players than PC. The thread stated that PC has more tools at their disposal to statistically analyze combat.
That's not exactly what was thrown at Vezuls.
You guys specifically said Console has no tools to aid them and thus are shittier players in general. One of you CSH boys actually said console will never pass 2nd boss because of it and here they are almost beating you to completion.
I admire these consoleros for their continued effort. I just feel you guys were ***, to say the least, in that thread.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
I think the general sentiment in the thread you are speaking of was not that console people are bad players or worse players than PC. The thread stated that PC has more tools at their disposal to statistically analyze combat.
That's not exactly what was thrown at Vezuls.
You guys specifically said Console has no tools to aid them and thus are shittier players in general. One of you CSH boys actually said console will never pass 2nd boss because of it and here they are almost beating you to completion.
I admire these consoleros for their continued effort. I just feel you guys were ***, to say the least, in that thread.
Actually, all that was said was that he probably won't get passed the second boss. If you read the comments before you will realize that it was said out of anger. No one actually believes that console players are worse than PC players. This would be irrational. But that thread was about Force Pulse and it was derailed. This made the OP fairly annoyed, rightfully so. Thus some things were said out of anger. The truth though remains - console does not have the adequate tools to determine combat analysis to the degree that PC does. Thus unfortunately no one can take someone from console's assessment as adequate or mathematically perauasive.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
I think the general sentiment in the thread you are speaking of was not that console people are bad players or worse players than PC. The thread stated that PC has more tools at their disposal to statistically analyze combat.
That's not exactly what was thrown at Vezuls.
You guys specifically said Console has no tools to aid them and thus are shittier players in general. One of you CSH boys actually said console will never pass 2nd boss because of it and here they are almost beating you to completion.
I admire these consoleros for their continued effort. I just feel you guys were ***, to say the least, in that thread.
Actually, all that was said was that he probably won't get passed the second boss. If you read the comments before you will realize that it was said out of anger. No one actually believes that console players are worse than PC players. This would be irrational. But that thread was about Force Pulse and it was derailed. This made the OP fairly annoyed, rightfully so. Thus some things were said out of anger. The truth though remains - console does not have the adequate tools to determine combat analysis to the degree that PC does. Thus unfortunately no one can take someone from console's assessment as adequate or mathematically perauasive.
I read that entire thread.
I wholeheartedly agree that console has inadequate tools to determine damage numbers and such, but the way you CSH people attacked him is atrocious. You guys need to seriously have an anger management seminar in your guild or some ***. It's pretty sad to see the only good PC NA guild result to such childish behaviour over a measly disagreement on the forums.
I'll stop derailing this thread now.
Grats to those who have completed so far! Will be interesting to see which platform is next


hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
I think the general sentiment in the thread you are speaking of was not that console people are bad players or worse players than PC. The thread stated that PC has more tools at their disposal to statistically analyze combat.
That's not exactly what was thrown at Vezuls.
You guys specifically said Console has no tools to aid them and thus are shittier players in general. One of you CSH boys actually said console will never pass 2nd boss because of it and here they are almost beating you to completion.
I admire these consoleros for their continued effort. I just feel you guys were ***, to say the least, in that thread.
Actually, all that was said was that he probably won't get passed the second boss. If you read the comments before you will realize that it was said out of anger. No one actually believes that console players are worse than PC players. This would be irrational. But that thread was about Force Pulse and it was derailed. This made the OP fairly annoyed, rightfully so. Thus some things were said out of anger. The truth though remains - console does not have the adequate tools to determine combat analysis to the degree that PC does. Thus unfortunately no one can take someone from console's assessment as adequate or mathematically perauasive.
I read that entire thread.
I wholeheartedly agree that console has inadequate tools to determine damage numbers and such, but the way you CSH people attacked him is atrocious. You guys need to seriously have an anger management seminar in your guild or some ***. It's pretty sad to see the only good PC NA guild result to such childish behaviour over a measly disagreement on the forums.
I'll stop derailing this thread now.
Grats to those who have completed so far! Will be interesting to see which platform is next
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
I think the general sentiment in the thread you are speaking of was not that console people are bad players or worse players than PC. The thread stated that PC has more tools at their disposal to statistically analyze combat.
That's not exactly what was thrown at Vezuls.
You guys specifically said Console has no tools to aid them and thus are shittier players in general. One of you CSH boys actually said console will never pass 2nd boss because of it and here they are almost beating you to completion.
I admire these consoleros for their continued effort. I just feel you guys were ***, to say the least, in that thread.
Actually, all that was said was that he probably won't get passed the second boss. If you read the comments before you will realize that it was said out of anger. No one actually believes that console players are worse than PC players. This would be irrational. But that thread was about Force Pulse and it was derailed. This made the OP fairly annoyed, rightfully so. Thus some things were said out of anger. The truth though remains - console does not have the adequate tools to determine combat analysis to the degree that PC does. Thus unfortunately no one can take someone from console's assessment as adequate or mathematically perauasive.
I read that entire thread.
I wholeheartedly agree that console has inadequate tools to determine damage numbers and such, but the way you CSH people attacked him is atrocious. You guys need to seriously have an anger management seminar in your guild or some ***. It's pretty sad to see the only good PC NA guild result to such childish behaviour over a measly disagreement on the forums.
I'll stop derailing this thread now.
Grats to those who have completed so far! Will be interesting to see which platform is next
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
I think the general sentiment in the thread you are speaking of was not that console people are bad players or worse players than PC. The thread stated that PC has more tools at their disposal to statistically analyze combat.
That's not exactly what was thrown at Vezuls.
You guys specifically said Console has no tools to aid them and thus are shittier players in general. One of you CSH boys actually said console will never pass 2nd boss because of it and here they are almost beating you to completion.
I admire these consoleros for their continued effort. I just feel you guys were ***, to say the least, in that thread.
Actually, all that was said was that he probably won't get passed the second boss. If you read the comments before you will realize that it was said out of anger. No one actually believes that console players are worse than PC players. This would be irrational. But that thread was about Force Pulse and it was derailed. This made the OP fairly annoyed, rightfully so. Thus some things were said out of anger. The truth though remains - console does not have the adequate tools to determine combat analysis to the degree that PC does. Thus unfortunately no one can take someone from console's assessment as adequate or mathematically perauasive.
I read that entire thread.
I wholeheartedly agree that console has inadequate tools to determine damage numbers and such, but the way you CSH people attacked him is atrocious. You guys need to seriously have an anger management seminar in your guild or some ***. It's pretty sad to see the only good PC NA guild result to such childish behaviour over a measly disagreement on the forums.
I'll stop derailing this thread now.
Grats to those who have completed so far! Will be interesting to see which platform is next
Slayyer-AUS wrote: »Slayyer-AUS wrote: »Gilliamtherogue wrote: »Just wanted to say thanks on behalf of the guild that ZOS did a really good job on a trial like this, the progression is great and I'm glad you have taken all of our feedback from Council of Raiders and made such a trial like this. Thank you for also leaving the difficulty how it is, I assume you did this for progress guilds to have some fun, which is nice. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn Please keep making content like this, really good direction and change from the older trials.Yes we do raid 24 hours
Leaving the difficulty how it is? Nonono.
You do realize the noobfilter got removed? they DID nerf the trial.
gz
And I think console was a bit earlier then you guys >.>
Isn't console still on the patch where you could scale it to v1 and still get the achievement and whatnot?
Is there a thread about the completion somewhere that I missed?
It might be that they still had the un-nerfed version of the trial actually.
So how did you manage to not reset the instance although nobody in there?
we spent far less time in there than you guys did so stop trying to insult us with this stupid noob filter lol.
Fact is fact, noobfilter got removed.
says the man with the heavy attack stam dk build lol
Are you trying to show of your inferiority by your better dps? Oh boy. You do realize we cleared it long time ago
Anyway, I am outta here.
gz at your dps, that 41k is amazing, IF it was the whole fight.
Yall seem to think because you did it first you are somehow superior but you arent. We spent a hell of alot less time on the boss then most which says alot about our skill as a group... doesnt matter though we will see who is ontop at end of patch
We did a 24 hour live stream on twitch and had naps/switched people in and did dailies during that timeSlayyer-AUS wrote: »Slayyer-AUS wrote: »Gilliamtherogue wrote: »Just wanted to say thanks on behalf of the guild that ZOS did a really good job on a trial like this, the progression is great and I'm glad you have taken all of our feedback from Council of Raiders and made such a trial like this. Thank you for also leaving the difficulty how it is, I assume you did this for progress guilds to have some fun, which is nice. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn Please keep making content like this, really good direction and change from the older trials.Yes we do raid 24 hours
Leaving the difficulty how it is? Nonono.
You do realize the noobfilter got removed? they DID nerf the trial.
gz
And I think console was a bit earlier then you guys >.>
Isn't console still on the patch where you could scale it to v1 and still get the achievement and whatnot?
Is there a thread about the completion somewhere that I missed?
It might be that they still had the un-nerfed version of the trial actually.
So how did you manage to not reset the instance although nobody in there?
we spent far less time in there than you guys did so stop trying to insult us with this stupid noob filter lol.
Fact is fact, noobfilter got removed.
says the man with the heavy attack stam dk build lol
Are you trying to show of your inferiority by your better dps? Oh boy. You do realize we cleared it long time ago
Anyway, I am outta here.
gz at your dps, that 41k is amazing, IF it was the whole fight.
Yall seem to think because you did it first you are somehow superior but you arent. We spent a hell of alot less time on the boss then most which says alot about our skill as a group... doesnt matter though we will see who is ontop at end of patch
You do realise your time says over 1 day while Hodor's is under 1 hour.
Stop making a fool of yourself.
It is well done nonetheless. No reason to start the immature bickering.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
I think the general sentiment in the thread you are speaking of was not that console people are bad players or worse players than PC. The thread stated that PC has more tools at their disposal to statistically analyze combat.
That's not exactly what was thrown at Vezuls.
You guys specifically said Console has no tools to aid them and thus are shittier players in general. One of you CSH boys actually said console will never pass 2nd boss because of it and here they are almost beating you to completion.
I admire these consoleros for their continued effort. I just feel you guys were ***, to say the least, in that thread.
Actually, all that was said was that he probably won't get passed the second boss. If you read the comments before you will realize that it was said out of anger. No one actually believes that console players are worse than PC players. This would be irrational. But that thread was about Force Pulse and it was derailed. This made the OP fairly annoyed, rightfully so. Thus some things were said out of anger. The truth though remains - console does not have the adequate tools to determine combat analysis to the degree that PC does. Thus unfortunately no one can take someone from console's assessment as adequate or mathematically perauasive.
I read that entire thread.
I wholeheartedly agree that console has inadequate tools to determine damage numbers and such, but the way you CSH people attacked him is atrocious. You guys need to seriously have an anger management seminar in your guild or some ***. It's pretty sad to see the only good PC NA guild result to such childish behaviour over a measly disagreement on the forums.
I'll stop derailing this thread now.
Grats to those who have completed so far! Will be interesting to see which platform is next
Pics or didn't happenLogicbomb00 wrote: »whedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
I think the general sentiment in the thread you are speaking of was not that console people are bad players or worse players than PC. The thread stated that PC has more tools at their disposal to statistically analyze combat.
That's not exactly what was thrown at Vezuls.
You guys specifically said Console has no tools to aid them and thus are shittier players in general. One of you CSH boys actually said console will never pass 2nd boss because of it and here they are almost beating you to completion.
I admire these consoleros for their continued effort. I just feel you guys were ***, to say the least, in that thread.
Actually, all that was said was that he probably won't get passed the second boss. If you read the comments before you will realize that it was said out of anger. No one actually believes that console players are worse than PC players. This would be irrational. But that thread was about Force Pulse and it was derailed. This made the OP fairly annoyed, rightfully so. Thus some things were said out of anger. The truth though remains - console does not have the adequate tools to determine combat analysis to the degree that PC does. Thus unfortunately no one can take someone from console's assessment as adequate or mathematically perauasive.
I read that entire thread.
I wholeheartedly agree that console has inadequate tools to determine damage numbers and such, but the way you CSH people attacked him is atrocious. You guys need to seriously have an anger management seminar in your guild or some ***. It's pretty sad to see the only good PC NA guild result to such childish behaviour over a measly disagreement on the forums.
I'll stop derailing this thread now.
Grats to those who have completed so far! Will be interesting to see which platform is next
cmon. these are the people that come into zone chat and call everyone s**t and a bunch of losers for whatever reason (boredom / ego / who knows). ive been there and seen these people actively attack and abuse people they don't even know. this NA guild is full of childish and rude behaviour, even when theyre not running dungeons or commenting on the forums. the community would be better off without them.
Slayyer-AUS wrote: »Slayyer-AUS wrote: »Gilliamtherogue wrote: »Just wanted to say thanks on behalf of the guild that ZOS did a really good job on a trial like this, the progression is great and I'm glad you have taken all of our feedback from Council of Raiders and made such a trial like this. Thank you for also leaving the difficulty how it is, I assume you did this for progress guilds to have some fun, which is nice. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn Please keep making content like this, really good direction and change from the older trials.Yes we do raid 24 hours
Leaving the difficulty how it is? Nonono.
You do realize the noobfilter got removed? they DID nerf the trial.
gz
And I think console was a bit earlier then you guys >.>
Isn't console still on the patch where you could scale it to v1 and still get the achievement and whatnot?
Is there a thread about the completion somewhere that I missed?
It might be that they still had the un-nerfed version of the trial actually.
So how did you manage to not reset the instance although nobody in there?
we spent far less time in there than you guys did so stop trying to insult us with this stupid noob filter lol.
Fact is fact, noobfilter got removed.
says the man with the heavy attack stam dk build lol
Are you trying to show of your inferiority by your better dps? Oh boy. You do realize we cleared it long time ago
Anyway, I am outta here.
gz at your dps, that 41k is amazing, IF it was the whole fight.
Yall seem to think because you did it first you are somehow superior but you arent. We spent a hell of alot less time on the boss then most which says alot about our skill as a group... doesnt matter though we will see who is ontop at end of patch
You do realise your time says over 1 day while Hodor's is under 1 hour.
Stop making a fool of yourself.
It is well done nonetheless. No reason to start the immature bickering.


I don't understand why bolding this means anything, they clearly stated it was a bug, and you were the only ones to see it apart from Beyond.Slayyer-AUS wrote: »Gilliamtherogue wrote: »Just wanted to say thanks on behalf of the guild that ZOS did a really good job on a trial like this, the progression is great and I'm glad you have taken all of our feedback from Council of Raiders and made such a trial like this. Thank you for also leaving the difficulty how it is, I assume you did this for progress guilds to have some fun, which is nice. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn Please keep making content like this, really good direction and change from the older trials.Yes we do raid 24 hours
Leaving the difficulty how it is? Nonono.
You do realize the noobfilter got removed? they DID nerf the trial.
gz
And I think console was a bit earlier then you guys >.>
Isn't console still on the patch where you could scale it to v1 and still get the achievement and whatnot?
Is there a thread about the completion somewhere that I missed?
It might be that they still had the un-nerfed version of the trial actually.
So how did you manage to not reset the instance although nobody in there?
we spent far less time in there than you guys did so stop trying to insult us with this stupid noob filter lol.
Fact is fact, noobfilter got removed. Also, last time I checked both NA/EU had DLC Update at the same time.
So ZOS saw YOUR video and said oh this doesn't loot right that shouldn't be there.
How is it a noob filter when we never see the god damn mechanic lol. It makes zero sense to try and use that against us.
Ok. Dr. Vezuls reporting for duty. Time to shed some knowledge on the "amazing" Crown Store Heroes.
1. Why is there no hype that we beat it? Because we didn't circulate it. Do you honestly think we care to brag to everyone on the forums that we got 1st NA clear? Not at all. We know our skill level and don't need others to validate it. The only reason I said anything was because I was told that console player suck and we will never progress pass the 2nd boss. I simply wanted an apology for the blatant ignorance that was directed toward me. The immaturity of everyone in CSH amazes me. I apologized for what I did, however you children can not and see nothing wrong with what you did. Grow up.
2. Did we really beat it V16? Seriously lol. No, we beat it V5 but the game bugged and gave me V16 jewelery. Should I provide a screenshot of us on the VMoL leaderboard as well? Like seriously I can't even believe that was said.
3. Are you elitist people of CSH cocky enough to even think you can even hold Hodor's jock straps!??? Like I guarantee you none of you are even that good. Literally you guys have like 3 dps that actually pull respectable numbers....
4. You progressed easier than every guild, yet you took longer to clear it than us (had access to the content 1 month in advance via PTS and being PC). You struggled on the easiest part of the fight. You got easy mode execute phase. Unlike you, we actually had to time ourselves and spread out accordingly. Your execute kill was the sloppiest, most unorganized thing I have ever seen in my life, but because the tether was "fixed" it didn't effect you guys. I hope you know we did execute phase with 0 deaths and we let 2 tethers hit the boss which decreased our damage by half.
5. People wanting proof. Here we go. First image clearly shows the time in EST, and also the clip being recorded 10 hours ago. We killed Rakkhat pretty much at midnight EST on the dot, 10 hours and 48 minutes ago. Second image is Fear Turbo messaging my friend who happens to be one of our tanks saying that you guys JUST cleared it at 2:38 am EST. The email was received 9 minutes ago from his phone, so 2:29 am EST is when it was cleared, but I'll assume he didn't message immediately and give a 15 minute window.
Gilded Reavers - 12:02 am EST (when I posted in Line chat that it was done)
Crown Store Heroes - 2:14 am EST (the message Fear Turbo sent one of our tanks)
EgoRush also has the messages of us clearing VMoL upon completion, and guess who's message was received first?'
(My friend lives in the West coast, so his time zone is 3 hours before mine, which is why his time on his phone says 11:38)
6. I heard you guys killed the final boss in like 11 minutes and you have the nerve to even imply you're anywhere near Hodor. Hell, that's slower than us lmfao. Before you reach for the stars, make sure you're out of your house. Basically, before you try to say you're better than Hodor, get better than us.
7. I'm curious, once we get DPS meters and outparse you guys of CSH, what amazing reason will you use to say we suck then?
TRUE Vezuls
Out.
Wait a console team beat Vet maw who where link please.Paulington wrote: »No we beat it before the console crew as far as i know, few hours earlierLove Wizard wrote: »Congratulations, but you're not the first NA clear.
Console posted about completing it with a screenshot at 05:32 GMT+1, was that after you?
Congratulations on your achievement and it's really hard fought, glad to see more people completing it!
I find it hilarious that NA bois were just recently in a thread saying "console plebs have no chance of beating 2nd boss", "console plebs are so ***" etc. etc. yet they're 1 hour after you in completing the entire trial.
Bit ironic, that is all.
Brain Power is low in this thread ontop of not raiding for like 2 weeks weve wpent a total of 14 hours on last boss
Sooo.... even if they finished before us as you say (whether that is true or not) we still progressed easier then them and even hodor.....
Ill keep saying it... see you all at end of patch... we'll see whos on top then
Wait a console team beat Vet maw who where link please.Paulington wrote: »No we beat it before the console crew as far as i know, few hours earlierLove Wizard wrote: »Congratulations, but you're not the first NA clear.
Console posted about completing it with a screenshot at 05:32 GMT+1, was that after you?
Congratulations on your achievement and it's really hard fought, glad to see more people completing it!
Slayyer-AUS wrote: »What are these pics they don't prove anything? There is no solid proof.
You guys spent 12 hours a day in there and hodor spent 8 hours a day in there for weeks....
I would want to hope that you guys beat it before us for being in there that long. We spent under 24 hours on this last boss so get rekt m9.