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Stamina based ultimates
Lifecode666
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Zos.
One of the things you need to do is rework is ultimates.
Now we can morph it in to directions, but we need to take this further.
let's say the nightblade ultimate consuming darkness.
You can morph it to veil of blades or bolstring darkness.
at the end of each morph we also need the abillity to choose magica or stamina.... like a 3rd option
It's just an idea of what can be done. ofc it is alot of work or some skills can be overpowered.
Edited by Lifecode666 on April 15, 2016 11:23AM One of the things you need to do is rework is ultimates.
Now we can morph it in to directions, but we need to take this further.
let's say the nightblade ultimate consuming darkness.
You can morph it to veil of blades or bolstring darkness.
at the end of each morph we also need the abillity to choose magica or stamina.... like a 3rd option
It's just an idea of what can be done. ofc it is alot of work or some skills can be overpowered.
Up the hornz
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therrieur✭✭✭You do know all ultimates scale off the highest stat. I think you mean physical or magic damage and for that I'd wait until dark brotherhood, for the stam rebalance.2 -
AlcastClass RepresentativeUltimates only work with spell penentration. Also Ultimates only work with Elemental expert. Giving Magicka setups a HUGE amount of advantage.https://alcasthq.com - Alcasthq.com Builds & Guides
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Lifecode666✭✭✭yeah.. I don't know all the details, but something needs to be looked at.
it's just *** the way it is now and has been for to long.
same with skills.
I heard they are working on somekind of aoe finnisher for dizzying swing, is this correct?Up the hornz0 -
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✭✭Ultimates only work with spell penentration. Also Ultimates only work with Elemental expert. Giving Magicka setups a HUGE amount of advantage.
@Alcast When have you tested this for the last time? I my Soul harvest does more damage when I use surprise attack for the major fractor debuff first. However this seems not to be the case for every ultimate as flawless dawnbreaker does the same damage with and without major fracture.0 -
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Pressume this is not the case for take flight/dragon leap. but is true for all other magicka damage or elemental damage based ultimates?Ultimates only work with spell penentration. Also Ultimates only work with Elemental expert. Giving Magicka setups a HUGE amount of advantage.
Id rather have some simply changed to physical, poison and disease based ultimates. And others kept as magical and elemental damage. probably easiest to do on non class ultimates. or introduce additional skill line ultimates like weapon skill ultimates.Lifecode666 wrote: »ok, yes physical or magic damageEdited by willymchilybily on April 15, 2016 12:50PMPSN - WarpPigeon - Guild: TheSyndicate - EU, Ebonheart PactDragon Knight [Magicka] - 720 - StormproofNight Blade [Magicka] - 720 - StormproofSorcerer [Magicka] - 720 - Flawless ConquerorTemplar [Magicka] - 720 - StormproofDragon Knight [Stamina] - 720 - StormproofNight Blade [Stamina] - 720 - StormproofSorcerer [Stamina] - 7201 -
Reorx_Holybeard✭✭✭✭✭willymchilybily wrote: »
If you read the Ultimate description all ultimates except for the Werewolf one will say "Magicka" or "Flame" damage, meaning it will work from spell penetration and Elemental Expert CP. The Werewolf ultimate says "Physical Damage" so assumable it works from physical penetration and Mighty.
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Never trust eso tooltips. As said before I tested soul harvest and it does more damage when my target is affected by major fracture even though it does magic damage.Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »willymchilybily wrote: »
If you read the Ultimate description all ultimates except for the Werewolf one will say "Magicka" or "Flame" damage, meaning it will work from spell penetration and Elemental Expert CP. The Werewolf ultimate says "Physical Damage" so assumable it works from physical penetration and Mighty.0 -
AlcastClass Representativelolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Ultimates only work with spell penentration. Also Ultimates only work with Elemental expert. Giving Magicka setups a HUGE amount of advantage.
@Alcast When have you tested this for the last time? I my Soul harvest does more damage when I use surprise attack for the major fractor debuff first. However this seems not to be the case for every ultimate as flawless dawnbreaker does the same damage with and without major fracture.
Interesting, havent tested it for quite a long time. No matter what tho, the CP stuff *** up stamina way harder.
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Aspi90✭✭✭That you have to ask for that kind of stuff is a bit ridiculous. Just wait a few month for the DB DLC aka stamina buff patch.0
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AlcastClass RepresentativeZagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »
that is the only ultimate in the game that works with Mighty. That is also why Stam Dks are kinda dangerous as it deals a *** of dmgEdited by Alcast on April 15, 2016 2:30PMhttps://alcasthq.com - Alcasthq.com Builds & Guides
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Zagnut123Zagnut123✭✭✭✭Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »
that is the only ultimate in the game that works with Mighty. That is also why Stam Dks are kinda dangerous as it deals a *** of dmg
That's why I love my stamina dk.0 -
Aspi90✭✭✭demonaffinity wrote: »
They said it one of the ESO Live Podcasts on Twitch, that they would focus on stamina abilites in the next DLC (DB).1 -
demonaffinity✭✭✭demonaffinity wrote: »
They said it one of the ESO Live Podcasts on Twitch, that they would focus on stamina abilites in the next DLC (DB).
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✭✭demonaffinity wrote: »
They said it one of the ESO Live Podcasts on Twitch, that they would focus on stamina abilites in the next DLC (DB).
Let's wait and see. This doesn't necessarily mean they'll even touch the ultimates.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.0 -
Aspi90✭✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »demonaffinity wrote: »
They said it one of the ESO Live Podcasts on Twitch, that they would focus on stamina abilites in the next DLC (DB).
Let's wait and see. This doesn't necessarily mean they'll even touch the ultimates.
I am not sure, but didn´t they say that they "would look into this"?
But I also cannot believe that they ignore this problem anymore, it´s just to obvious. But I know who we are talking about.0 -
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✭✭lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »Ultimates only work with spell penentration. Also Ultimates only work with Elemental expert. Giving Magicka setups a HUGE amount of advantage.
@Alcast When have you tested this for the last time? I my Soul harvest does more damage when I use surprise attack for the major fractor debuff first. However this seems not to be the case for every ultimate as flawless dawnbreaker does the same damage with and without major fracture.
Pretty sure soul harvest is physical damage regardless(or in defiance) of what the tooltip reads.0 -
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Well I doubt it their too busy making Reverse slice a group execute to make ultimate deal physical or ultimate damage.khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »demonaffinity wrote: »
They said it one of the ESO Live Podcasts on Twitch, that they would focus on stamina abilites in the next DLC (DB).
Let's wait and see. This doesn't necessarily mean they'll even touch the ultimates.
I am not sure, but didn´t they say that they "would look into this"?
But I also cannot believe that they ignore this problem anymore, it´s just to obvious. But I know who we are talking about.0 -
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✭✭I agree my level 38 magblade was getting better ticks off Veil of Blades than my VGR16 stamblade - that just ain't right...0 -
Resipsa131✭✭✭I would suggest making flawless dawnbreaker a physical damage ulti but that might make bow users who slot it for the increased damage upset.0
