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A Gentle Reminder

DocFrost72
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Attention all random dungeon PUG leaders!

Do you see that thing above your head? That is a crown. It signifies you as the leader of the group that is about to enter battle. Take some time to feel proud :)

Now, take a look at the roles of your fellow adventurers. You'll notice that one individual seems to have both tank and DPS checked off. Strange, as those roles are typically very different in what is required. They must be...

A FREELOADER! Kick them and find a replacement, hopefully one that did not cheat the system. Stick out your chest with pride for thwarting a freeloader today!

Except some people genuinely CAN do multiple roles. One of my toons is specced for all three, in fact. Just a gentle reminder to all us PUG leaders to do everyone a favor and ask first.

Thank you for your time!

  • UrQuan
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    Almost all of my characters are currently set up to do 2 different roles. My 2 VR16s are each set up to do all 3. All it takes is a quick gear swap and a quick swap of slotted skills and I'm good to go.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Vangy
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Almost all of my characters are currently set up to do 2 different roles. My 2 VR16s are each set up to do all 3. All it takes is a quick gear swap and a quick swap of slotted skills and I'm good to go.

    I can do that on all my toons too but we are the far and few between. Id say maybe a ratio of 1/10. Most people I know who tell me they can do both roles are either oblivious or lying. Ie: I had this sorc who just did a skill swap and tried to heal a trial with 5/5 juli.....
    Edited by Vangy on April 15, 2016 5:21AM
    (2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
    (2)V16 Sorc- mag dps/stam dps
    (2)V16 nb- stam dps/mag dps
    (1)v16 temp- mag tank/mag dps
    CP: 610 and counting

    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates! Viva la revolutionz
  • Volkodav
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Attention all random dungeon PUG leaders!

    Do you see that thing above your head? That is a crown. It signifies you as the leader of the group that is about to enter battle. Take some time to feel proud :)

    Now, take a look at the roles of your fellow adventurers. You'll notice that one individual seems to have both tank and DPS checked off. Strange, as those roles are typically very different in what is required. They must be...

    A FREELOADER! Kick them and find a replacement, hopefully one that did not cheat the system. Stick out your chest with pride for thwarting a freeloader today!

    Except some people genuinely CAN do multiple roles. One of my toons is specced for all three, in fact. Just a gentle reminder to all us PUG leaders to do everyone a favor and ask first.

    Thank you for your time!

    But if you can do multi roles,why cant the one you just said to kick out?
    How do you know they cant do it as well as you can?
  • UrQuan
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Attention all random dungeon PUG leaders!

    Do you see that thing above your head? That is a crown. It signifies you as the leader of the group that is about to enter battle. Take some time to feel proud :)

    Now, take a look at the roles of your fellow adventurers. You'll notice that one individual seems to have both tank and DPS checked off. Strange, as those roles are typically very different in what is required. They must be...

    A FREELOADER! Kick them and find a replacement, hopefully one that did not cheat the system. Stick out your chest with pride for thwarting a freeloader today!

    Except some people genuinely CAN do multiple roles. One of my toons is specced for all three, in fact. Just a gentle reminder to all us PUG leaders to do everyone a favor and ask first.

    Thank you for your time!

    But if you can do multi roles,why cant the one you just said to kick out?
    How do you know they cant do it as well as you can?
    You missed his point. He wasn't actually recommending that people kick those who queue as 2 or 3 roles - he was showing that attitude and then showing why it's the wrong attitude to have.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Fellenore_Ewalion
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    A leader does not kick. A leader uses the mass of players given and forge it into a team. If and when he cannot do it, he resigns and pass on the leadership.

    A boss kicks and sets up rules and regulations that nobody will follow. And in any case like this, the first one who breaks the rule is actually... the boss.
    My Great House Telvanni did not join the Pact.
    But it does not mean I don't want to be Emperor.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Hm... I actually wonder now how it is possible to do 3 roles at once, and which class could do this. The only class that comes mind is the sorcerer, although I am not saying it can't be done with classes. As for why I think a sorcerer, it is because they can: Heal via Twilight, tank via Clanfeer and or shields/wards, and deal damage through a variety of means.
  • UrQuan
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Hm... I actually wonder now how it is possible to do 3 roles at once, and which class could do this. The only class that comes mind is the sorcerer, although I am not saying it can't be done with classes. As for why I think a sorcerer, it is because they can: Heal via Twilight, tank via Clanfeer and or shields/wards, and deal damage through a variety of means.
    Being set up so you can do all 3 roles on one character is easy. Being set up so you can do all 3 roles on one character at once is a recipe for failure at all of them.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Volkodav
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Attention all random dungeon PUG leaders!

    Do you see that thing above your head? That is a crown. It signifies you as the leader of the group that is about to enter battle. Take some time to feel proud :)

    Now, take a look at the roles of your fellow adventurers. You'll notice that one individual seems to have both tank and DPS checked off. Strange, as those roles are typically very different in what is required. They must be...

    A FREELOADER! Kick them and find a replacement, hopefully one that did not cheat the system. Stick out your chest with pride for thwarting a freeloader today!

    Except some people genuinely CAN do multiple roles. One of my toons is specced for all three, in fact. Just a gentle reminder to all us PUG leaders to do everyone a favor and ask first.

    Thank you for your time!

    But if you can do multi roles,why cant the one you just said to kick out?
    How do you know they cant do it as well as you can?
    You missed his point. He wasn't actually recommending that people kick those who queue as 2 or 3 roles - he was showing that attitude and then showing why it's the wrong attitude to have.

    Thank you for the clarification.I misunderstood it. :)
  • MidnightBlue
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    I was about to reply with an opposing opinion and then reread it again. I agree.
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