Forcing locks - does anyone bother?

rotaugen454 · April 2016

magnusthorek wrote: »

After reaching level 20 in Legerdemain I don't open them manually anymore as there's no more XP involved and with 4/4 in the proper skill, it's rare to fail

Don't you still get character XP? Maybe no more points in Legerdemain, but you still get overall XP and towards a champion point. I think that I get about 1000 XP in Wrothgar unenlightened.

Duiwel · April 2016

AS long as the IC lockpick visual bug isn't ongoing ( which it hasn't for at least 2 weeks now ) then I just lockpick it takes like 20 seconds or less to pick a lock...

magnusthorek · April 2016

Beardimus wrote:

And @magnusthorek you do still get XP per chest even at L20 legerdemain, each safe box gives you legerdemain points and normal XP the former stopping when you max out

Well, @Beardimus, then maybe something is wrong with my account because it doesn't appear so

Recremen · April 2016

I used to do all my locks manually, but ever since unlocking the passives it's just not worth my time since I can almost always get it to force on the first try, and except in the rarest situations I can keep going back and re-trying the force attempt faster than the pins depress normally. Costly in lockpicks, but those are easy to find.

Nestor · April 2016

My lockpicking skills have definitely fallen off. I used to be able to open Advanced Chests with 1/2 the timer bar left. I started forcing locks for the Lockbox quests with TG because it's much faster and easier to avoid detection if I fail. I logged onto a character that has to pick the locks and it a simple lock took 2 attempts.

Now I pick them manually unless it is a lockbox.

Also, when you force a lock, you get no Exp for that, just the counter increment for the achievement.

FENGRUSH · April 2016

Lead PVE specialist Fengrush here to assure you forcing locks is the pro way to get it done

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO · April 2016

Force every lock.

emily3989 · April 2016

The xp for picking a lock is just too insignificant for me to even consider bothering with. In the time it takes to manually do it, I can face-roll a few groups of mobs and more than make up for it. And as far as legerdemain xp goes, if you are cashing in 100 items a day, you should shouldn't even notice lockpicking xp.

But if you enjoy doing it and want the xp, by all means, do it! Why the game is there IMO.

Lightninvash · April 2016

Beardimus wrote: »

Just curious if anyone regularly forces locks. Seems a waste of 4 skills points to me to open the full passive. I can see the value for the boss in WGT, but otherwise lock picking doesnt take too long really!?

force locks are great in IC since you don't have to lose your field of vision as long by picking it if you are solo it comes in handy. also for the dungeon with the jailer it is amazing there. sure you don't get the xp for force picking but it can be faster if you have it leveled up

Dromede · April 2016

Nothing will make you appreciate Force lock and Legerdemain passives like healing out of the vWGT cage

Autolycus · April 2016

Beardimus wrote: »

Just curious if anyone regularly forces locks. Seems a waste of 4 skills points to me to open the full passive. I can see the value for the boss in WGT, but otherwise lock picking doesnt take too long really!?

I force locks all the time. If you haven't forced your way out of the cage in vWGT against the Adjudicator, you're missing out. I get locked up in the cage as the tank all the time and I force my way out instantly almost every time. The boss never even gets a chance to attack my group, because I'm already back in the center of the room before she can think of doing so.

waterfairy · April 2016

My perk points are too precious to me to waste on a minor convenience like this.

Drazorious · April 2016

I pretty much always force locks. Most of the time it's a lot faster

idk · April 2016

Yes I bother. 4 points is nothing. Besides the WGT benefit is good for getting safebox open fast. It's nice not having to pick locks anymore.

altemriel · April 2016

I have not tried out the WGT yet, but I do not care about lock picking, I force the lock everytime. the lock picking process sucks

RebornV3x · April 2016

No it feels like a waste of points

Lightninvash · April 2016

RebornV3x wrote: »

No it feels like a waste of points

in the end you have so many you lose stuff to put into haha I have 15 extra skill points I haven't spent

emily3989 · April 2016

RebornV3x wrote: »

No it feels like a waste of points

If higher level, you would probably be surprised at what you have some skill points invested in and don't even remember that you do.

Anyway, it's a simple decision / is the convenience worth 4 skill points to you? For me it is, others not, game is full of choices.

Gargath · April 2016

The orginal thread question should be changed to "Forcing locks - does anyone bother in IC or other PvP area?"
Because of the answers above

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dodgehopper_ESO · April 2016

Frawr wrote: »

I use it out of laziness. With 4/4 it rarely fails. Can force master locks without much issue too

Once you've mastered the skill line, it isn't always worthwhile to pick the lock. I'm fairly good at picking the locks as well (as long as there isn't latency/ping issues). The issue is more than a forced lockpick attempt happens more quickly, and might help you get a chest open before a guard sees you. The other benefit is just laziness. If you're trying to rush through and fill a quota or finish a TG mission, picking is nice. Furthermore, the experience points you get from lockpicking is minimal, and if your character has maxed all possible skills anyway, there really is no point. Its about the speedy cash, and when you think about it, that's what a thief is about: Easy money.

AdamBourke · April 2016

I've forced a lock once - just to see what happens. Actually, I can't remember what happened, maybe i'll try again tonight.

I've also only failed one lockpicking session - and that was because I wasn't paying attention.

But I like the minigame. So I play it :-).

Maybe when I start IC, I will invest some points into it...

TheBrownWiener · April 2016

No, I use a lock picking add on, I open 100% of locks and 1 lock pick lasts me weeks.

Sordidfairytale · April 2016

It's been a couple days since I've done WGT is it still possible to use a targeted gap closer to get out of the cells without picking the locks? Or did they patch that recently?

Acrolas · April 2016

You should always force locks in combat/PVP. Every action movie ever should have taught you that.

But out of combat (PVE) I'm looking at a 4 second pick on any lock, so I'm going to trust my technique over RNG, because RNG hates almost everything.

i3ig_Gun · April 2016

I do it all the time, unless I notice someone is around me waiting for me to screw it up.

Then I'll just pick the lock normally.

Dromede · April 2016

TheBrownWiener wrote: »

No, I use a lock picking add on, I open 100% of locks and 1 lock pick lasts me weeks.

I did not know there is an add-on for that. Mixed feelings about it... It's too trivial to be called an exploit, but i personally would not feel comfortable using it

driosketch · April 2016

Back when I was hunting lockboxes, I would force it if there was a nearby patrolling NPC with a short route.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO · April 2016

I always force the locks, they open 90% of the time on the first try for me.

Beardimus · April 2016

Quite a discussion, cheers all!!

great info

dinogamer14miku · April 2016

I try it as soon as the timers getting ready to end.