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Enough Is Enough!

Ch4mpTW
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ZOS enough is enough! Fix yourselves and THEN fix this game. I'm tired of this. What is "this"? This is everything. Literally everything.

I'm tired of doing dungeons constantly back-after-back, and get nothing in return. I've been running Veteran White Gold Tower for 4 weeks straight on PS4 (NA), and haven't gotten the helm yet. My guild thought it was a good idea to record the amount of times done until received. I'm on run this dungeon 277 times. No helm has dropped. Nothing. This is NOT okay. I don't care what you say. RNG is broken. Meanwhile people are having them drop fin their first run, and getting it constantly? Really? But, I can do it constantly — and get nothing in return? It feels like I'm being spit on constantly for my effort.

I'm tired of you not fixing PVP, and mistreating the people who partaking in it. Ignoring the obvious class flaws, and refusing to fix the lag. It's discussing it. And then having the audacity to say something literally as stupid as you're making a reverse slash a Zerg buster. It's not funny, it's not cute, it's not disgusting. Stop the bandaid fixes, stop pushing content, and fix what is already out.

I'm tired of you bullying the Templars, and driving their class into the dirt further and further. The class unbalance is the worse it has ever been, and you're making it worse with each DLC. Stop with the focus on vanity items, and look at the classes. Balance them. Not nerf things constantly, and putting up silly "fixes" like what you did to Magelight. But actually fix the classes.

Seriously Zenimax. Fix your game. There are threads appearing right and left of people refusing to sub anymore, and of them leaving this game. You even went to extremes such as banning Sypher for game sharing. Cool. You just made more people hate you. No, not dislike. Hate. You're making people HATE you. You have people on: Console, forums, and Mac/PC comparing your company to EA Games and other hated companies. Someone called you all the demented clone of Comcast, but for gaming in the area chat one day. Get. Your. ****. Together.

Your VERY Hostile Customer
CTW
  • vyrusb23
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    I'm tired of whining. [snip]

    [edited for bait]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:07PM
  • Ch4mpTW
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    vyrusb23 wrote: »
    I'm tired of whining.

    Cool. I'm tired of the blind leading the blind [snip] on the forums. All the while refusing to acknowledge the problem(s) at hand.

    [edited for flame]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:08PM
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Hmm crying cause no helm ? Well I am tired of refining ore left and right trying to get temper alloys but you don't see creating whining post about it.

    PvP broken ? News flash been broken since day one of players using what ever cheese build they see cause they want to be "the best".

    Templar bullying ? Oh what about Dragon Knights ? Don't even say magicka DK bla bla only buffs magic DKs got was 2 skills that boost spell power and crit that's it and even then what about stamina DKs you know the DK tanks ? DK tanks no wait the role of tank is near extinction cause of mitigation and all that is total garbage.

    And lastly players like you need to stop crying and yelling at ZOS to fix the game cause if you had any game programming knowledge you know it takes awhile and some man power to program a game let alone a online forever changing online game.
  • vyrusb23
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Cool. I'm tired of the blind leading the blind on the forums. All the while refusing to acknowledge the problem(s) at hand.
    You're the one that's so full of hate over a frickin' video game. Seriously man (or woman, or whatever you are), go do SOMETHING else besides playing ESO, crying on the forums, and harboring hate for a video game and the developers of it. [snip]

    [edited for flaming]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:17PM
  • Bananko
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Enough Is Enough!

    Is that the sequel series to the classic TV show Eight Is Enough? :o
  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Cool. I'm tired of the blind leading the blind on the forums. All the while refusing to acknowledge the problem(s) at hand.

    Sir I'll have you know my vision is perfectly fine and all I see here is another pointless thread.

    [minor edit for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 4:23PM
  • WalkingLegacy
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    Hmm crying cause no helm ? Well I am tired of refining ore left and right trying to get temper alloys but you don't see creating whining post about it.

    PvP broken ? News flash been broken since day one of players using what ever cheese build they see cause they want to be "the best".

    Templar bullying ? Oh what about Dragon Knights ? Don't even say magicka DK bla bla only buffs magic DKs got was 2 skills that boost spell power and crit that's it and even then what about stamina DKs you know the DK tanks ? DK tanks no wait the role of tank is near extinction cause of mitigation and all that is total garbage.

    And lastly players like you need to stop crying and yelling at ZOS to fix the game cause if you had any game programming knowledge you know it takes awhile and some man power to program a game let alone a online forever changing online game.

    Yes, it takes 1.5 years to fix broken.

    GG
  • Bofrari
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    vyrusb23 wrote: »
    I'm tired of whining.

    YES OLE YES YOU ARE SO RIGHT ID AGREE WITH YOUR POST 1000 times if I could. This.

    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:41PM
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    vyrusb23 wrote: »
    You're the one that's so full of hate over a frickin' video game. Seriously man (or woman, or whatever you are), go do SOMETHING else besides playing ESO, crying on the forums, and harboring hate for a video game and the developers of it.

    Hmm, so you're hating cos he's hating? Throwing insults left and right, kind of makes your YOLO speech not so good.

    He/she IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION insulting them because you don't agree with them is what I would consider a form of hate...

    [minor edit for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 4:23PM
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    Barbra & Donna agree :smile:
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  • Eshelmen
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    vyrusb23 wrote: »
    You're the one that's so full of hate over a frickin' video game. Seriously man (or woman, or whatever you are), go do SOMETHING else besides playing ESO, crying on the forums, and harboring hate for a video game and the developers of it.

    I see nothing constructive with your message.
    Your false assumptions and rage towards this person, makes me believe you are the one who needs to get outside for once and not let petty stuff like this(on a forum) get to you.

    [snip]

    OP, as far as I know, there is never a guarantee with the helm(Not even a guarantee after 200 tries). There just isn't. I've been doing dungeons for the past year and still haven't got the helm. But I'm okay with that. The less you expect something, the greater you'll feel when you actually get what you wanted.

    Keep going, you'll get it. Or forget it. It's just a piece of armor.

    [edited for flaming]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:21PM
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  • Eshelmen
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    Bananko wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Enough Is Enough!

    Is that the sequel series to the classic TV show Eight Is Enough? :o

    Google it. Find out for us.
    PC and PS4 EP only player
  • 7788b14_ESO
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    Molag Bal runs this game...
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Cool. I'm tired of the blind leading the blind on the forums. All the while refusing to acknowledge the problem(s) at hand.

    If some of us dont seem to have any off the problems you have,it isnt that we are refusing to acknowledge anything.We just dont have your problems.

    [minor edit for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:22PM
  • hrothbern
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Cool. I'm tired of the blind leading the blind on the forums. All the while refusing to acknowledge the problem(s) at hand.

    From all that salt, you only get high blood pressure ;)

    [minor edit for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:24PM
    "I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU
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    Eshelmen wrote: »
    I see nothing constructive with your message.
    Your false assumptions and rage towards this person, makes me believe you are the one who needs to get outside for once and not let petty stuff like this(on a forum) get to you.

    OP, as far as I know, there is never a guarantee with the helm(Not even a guarantee after 200 tries). There just isn't. I've been doing dungeons for the past year and still haven't got the helm. But I'm okay with that. The less you expect something, the greater you'll feel when you actually get what you wanted.

    Keep going, you'll get it. Or forget it. It's just a piece of armor.

    Look what you just did? The same exact thing you are accusing the other person of. LOL!!!

    [minor edit for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:25PM
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    Insert morgan freeman meme. He is right you know...

    I agree with op here and there. I am just hidding my anger and let my suggestion posts be forgotten cause there is no beneficial discussions in here other that 2h DK Stam Build, and DW Sorc MK build. Oh and guys asking for cosmetic advice.

    I agree with you op. I am sure you did consider being polite, but you made a different choice.
    Edited by GeorgeBlack on April 14, 2016 5:38AM
  • KhajiitiLizard
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    You don't see anything wrong with running a dungeon 277 times and not getting anything of value? Some people just get the short end of the stick and get nothing while others run the dungeon for the first time and get the helm. And others seem to get it every single run. That's just silly.

    Dungeons need a token system... like each mob drops a few tokens and the bosses drop many... and final bosses can drop a few 100-1000 tokens... have em be a currency like gold, AP and TV stones... not those stupid trophies.
    And have the set pieces cost 10,000-30,000 tokens depending on the difficulty of the dungeon.

    And have this on top of the very rare set piece drops from the final boss and the keys.

    If you get the piece you want off a drop or the keys... great but if not... you can buy them with tokens... so all those runs would not have been wasted. Fast way, but rare, way to get em and a slow, but sure, way to get em.
    Edited by KhajiitiLizard on April 14, 2016 5:40AM
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    vyrusb23 wrote: »
    You're the one that's so full of hate over a frickin' video game. Seriously man (or woman, or whatever you are), go do SOMETHING else besides playing ESO, crying on the forums, and harboring hate for a video game and the developers of it.

    [snip] The irony in this post is too damn high.

    I honestly think you're out of touch if you can sit there in front of your computer and insult people.....all because they're giving feedback on a game. This game must be a major part of your life. Keep telling yourself this game is perfect.

    [snip] Forums re mainly used for feedback and discussion...you're so full of hate over nothing... :)

    [edited for bait]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:37PM
  • Bananko
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    Eshelmen wrote: »
    Bananko wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Enough Is Enough!

    Is that the sequel series to the classic TV show Eight Is Enough? :o

    Google it. Find out for us.

    Eight-is-Enough.jpg
  • Van_0S
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Cool. I'm tired of the blind leading the blind on the forums. All the while refusing to acknowledge the problem(s) at hand.

    @Ch4mpTW, I don't know why people like @vyrusb23 even post like that?
    Tbh with you, this game was great at first but now its "........." when its true colours are exposed, once you reach the game cap.
    Its not what one would call as a true MMO game, maybe spell crating will fix this boredom or overhaul of this game.

    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:32PM
  • Enderyn
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  • Eshelmen
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    Volkodav wrote: »

    Look what you just did? The same exact thing you are accusing the other person of. LOL!!!

    LOL roflcopter lawls a lot!
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:31PM
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  • ParaNostram
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    Boo hoo RNJesus didn't give you your shiney. Also, Templar being driven into the dirt? Are you kidding me? Have you even BEEN in cyrodiil lately? Darkflare + Javelin + Jesus Beam = GG. For real. Hell you can even remove the Javelin, or go charge and sweeps for days.

    Seriously, you have the same chance of getting the helm as anyone else, and if people just play with a pinch of creativity or conviction, every class is capable of greatness right now. I've seen every class fill every possible role in PvP at the very least and still wreck face, I have both been wrecked by and wrecked every type of build out there. If you think you're being dragged through the dirt, my only answer is this - get good hun. Other players are managing it with a vast variety of different builds, you can too!

    I don't know things look in trials, but I have seen every class fill every role in all the vet dungeons. It's doable love! You can do it! I believe in you!
    Edited by ParaNostram on April 14, 2016 6:54AM
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    Kena isn't worth it anyway. Call custard on hundreds of attempts too. Probably like 27 or something. PS4 players so hateful lol.

    God luck fitting in 200+ runs if WGT in 4 weeks.

    [edited for bait]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 14, 2016 3:29PM
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  • hydrocynus
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    Shame man. Do you know you have to flip the lever in the room before you port up? You just need to trigger it once for the group and then in future runs the chances are increased for the hat.

    Probably guys running with you had other people in their group activate it without them knowing which is why they don't tell you, or maybe they are just being cruel?
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  • ComboBreaker88
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    I find it funny how people seem to takes sides. This game is broken in so many ways. Anyone who plays it to full vr16 can see that. It's lacking in real content. But if you point that out short sighted people just say well you can leave. Why? They took the time to point out some issues so they obviously care about the game, those who are of the mindset that well, you can just leave so why say anything? -those people are the problem. Those who don't care enough to be the bad guy and say, hey we love this game, but your destroying it with either apathy or utter incompetence. Possibly both. And I hate how on eso live they act so proud of how the are slowly but surely destroying a legacy. Let me just day it flat out, if this wasn't an elElder Scrolls game ZOS would have gone bankrupt by now. They are riding on the back of The Elder Scrolls. And I'm pretty sure they know it. We all do.
  • NMT
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    ZOS enough is enough! Fix yourselves and THEN fix this game. I'm tired of this. What is "this"? This is everything. Literally everything.

    I'm tired of doing dungeons constantly back-after-back, and get nothing in return. I've been running Veteran White Gold Tower for 4 weeks straight on PS4 (NA), and haven't gotten the helm yet. My guild thought it was a good idea to record the amount of times done until received. I'm on run this dungeon 277 times. No helm has dropped. Nothing. This is NOT okay. I don't care what you say. RNG is broken. Meanwhile people are having them drop fin their first run, and getting it constantly? Really? But, I can do it constantly — and get nothing in return? It feels like I'm being spit on constantly for my effort.

    I'm tired of you not fixing PVP, and mistreating the people who partaking in it. Ignoring the obvious class flaws, and refusing to fix the lag. It's discussing it. And then having the audacity to say something literally as stupid as you're making a reverse slash a Zerg buster. It's not funny, it's not cute, it's not disgusting. Stop the bandaid fixes, stop pushing content, and fix what is already out.

    I'm tired of you bullying the Templars, and driving their class into the dirt further and further. The class unbalance is the worse it has ever been, and you're making it worse with each DLC. Stop with the focus on vanity items, and look at the classes. Balance them. Not nerf things constantly, and putting up silly "fixes" like what you did to Magelight. But actually fix the classes.

    Seriously Zenimax. Fix your game. There are threads appearing right and left of people refusing to sub anymore, and of them leaving this game. You even went to extremes such as banning Sypher for game sharing. Cool. You just made more people hate you. No, not dislike. Hate. You're making people HATE you. You have people on: Console, forums, and Mac/PC comparing your company to EA Games and other hated companies. Someone called you all the demented clone of Comcast, but for gaming in the area chat one day. Get. Your. ****. Together.

    Your VERY Hostile Customer
    CTW

    Might be time for you to find another game.

    I don't mean that in a nasty way either but this game does have issues and they obviously arent being fixed quick enough.......though in the case of the helm bad luck isn't really the devs fault.

    Maybe if you put your fixes forward for class balance in a constructive way the devs would take note, who knows. They face an impossible task in this aspect of the game do I don't ever expect the classes to be truly balanced.

    Do you really think the devs aren't trying to fix the issues the game has?
  • Jim_Pipp
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    <nervously puts head above parapet>

    I've seen it said in here before, but I'll point it out again because there are so many people saying that RNG is UNFAIR because they didn't get something as quickly as someone else did...

    It's not unfair, it's random.

    You are just being paranoid in seeing if you believe this completely random force is deliberately penalising you. It's just like the lottery, what would you say to someone who threw their toys out of the pram because they didn't win the lottery? would you agree that the lottery is broken?

    I understand it is frustrating when someone else gets something you want thanks to good luck, and it may feel unfair, but RNG actually makes the game fairer because it slows down the hardcore gamers and stops them streaking ahead of the more casual gamers, keeping the game competitive and popular.

    Having disagreed with the OP first point let me disagree with the rest. I think the game still has popularity because it is constantly developing, there are problems, but every week there are new fixes. If I had 4 weeks when I had nothing else to do, I would probably spend all that time on ESO like the OP.
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  • Cimadon
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    Maybe a pity timer for boss drops would be preferable? Like, if you haven't gotten the helm from the RNG within 49 attempts, you would be garanteed to get it on the 50th attempt.

    Edit: The rarity and trait would still be chosen by the RNG.
    Edited by Cimadon on April 14, 2016 8:59AM
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