I have a thread with this specific idea a while back but it's PvE faction based zone and PvP only campaigns but that seems it would help right?

There are a lot of people who enjoy both PvE and PvP gameplay and forcing them to log in and out of different servers to experience both of them would be a bad idea.

Me? Oh I hate PvP with a passion and I'd lose no sleep or tears, but I do still like being able to travel into Cyrodiil now and then if I really want to.

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

I am not sure if this has been said before (so please don't have a go at me for my bad memory), but it is my understanding that the PvP "lag issue" first started way back when ZoS made changes to stop Bots in game...particularly on the PvE side.

So, if there were 2 separate servers (and perhaps the removal of any sort of PvE element/quests in Cyro) then they could revert the PvP side back to what it was and what was promised, maintaining and updating it on a regular basis. Keep the PvE side maintained to prevent bots,etc. and everyone would be happy...well someone would find something to complain about, but you get the idea.

It's an old idea. Like really old, like WoW 2004 old.

Having a separate server might help the lag, maybe an overflow server, but based on what I've seen with a few other MMOs (that aren't WoW), pure PvP servers tend to die out pretty quick because they don't tend to be that popular... And huge chunks of the player base go off to find greener pastures and the growth of the game as a whole suffers.

Having a massive world PvP zone with the option to spontaneously jump into PvE content with non-PvPer friends and guildies was the right call, imo. Unless, by some weird twist of fate, there is a massive petition for PvP only servers from the player base, it's probably just going to remain one of those things that "only exists with other MMOs".

It would be nice if they eventually got around to giving the PvPers an instanced small team vs small team Arena of sorts. I've noticed I don't tend to get as much lag while I'm running instanced dungeons.

Katahdin wrote: »

@srfrogg23

The op didn't mean pvp vs pve versions of the game separated onto pve and pvp servers.

He is asking about whether the current pvp campaigns are on seperate physical servers from the PvE maps. The thought being is that if each pvp campaign is on its own server would theoretically alleviate the lag issues. I don't recall if they've ever said how things are set up.

Ah... If it works that way, cool. I'm hoping it gets fixed, I don't PvP at all, but I'm sure the people that do would probably be willing to try anything at this point, lol.

I personally hope they don't make the mistake of completely separating the two though. I might change my mind someday and I wouldn't want to roll a new character on a different server just to PvP.

Hell, they could probably find a way to treat Cyrodiil like a voluntary overflow server and let people bounce back and forth as they see fit, it might work. I'm not a tech guru though, so I'm not well versed on the validity of that kind of strategy.

If anyone remembers Asherons Call, they had many servers but only one was dedicated to PVP called darktide. The entire world was full on PVP and was a very unforgiving place. It was also very popular so apparently Turbine did it right. Players could also loot your body so you had to make yourself "death items" which were high in value but low in weight. That way players couldn't loot your good stuff.

thanks for all the input...lots of good information from you all

i'm not really a "only play one or the other, it's them or us"

i just hope someday that PvP can return to the massive battles with no (or very little) lag as it was 2 years ago, and that PvE can co-exist with it where changes to one do not adversely affect the other

anyway, once again a big thanks for the useful feedback

Ruben wrote: »

Yep, that sounds great. Allow exploiters to teleport from place to place and use 5 skills at the same time. I can't see any possible problem with that at all.

Do PvPers not remember the mat farming bots that teleported everywhere?

if you look at PvP & PvE today peeps are exploiting (or shall we say using the combination of skills which allow such things) when and where they can figure one out...until such time as ZoS decides they can't be fixed so calls it a "feature" (animation cancelling being the prime example), but there are the leaping into Keeps, the multi-ulti...blah blah blah

If you remove a reason for Bots to be in Cyrodiil (yep...no mats, no delves, no chests, etc.) then PvPers can concentrate on fighting each other and back in "PvE-land" the prevention of Bots can be dealt with in a more concerted way.

I am trying to look for middle ground here so we can all the play the game. It is not my intention to suggest that exploiting and Bots should be back in a big way in the game. I would hope that it could all be prevented, but that's wishful thinking on my part.