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Are you happy with the LAG and LATENCY issues in Cyrodiil?

Goldie
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Are you happy with the LAG and LATENCY issues in Cyrodiil PvP, and do you feel enough is being done to try and fix it?
Edited by Goldie on April 13, 2016 6:26AM
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Are you happy with the LAG and LATENCY issues in Cyrodiil? 147 votes

Lag and Latency are NOT issues in PVP. ZOS is on top of things.
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Lag and Latency are MINOR issues. ZOS seems to be working on things.
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Lag and Latency issues hinder game play and need to be further addressed by ZOS soon.
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Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
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  • Ra'Shtar
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    I'm 100% sure this does not need a poll because this a highly discussed hot topic and the biggest complain people have with the game.
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  • notimetocare
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    My option isn't on there.
    5: Lag and latency in PvP is a major issue and idiots on the forums have less of an idea of how to fix it than the Dev and they complain far more that is necessary.

    On a serious note: LAg and latency is a problem, but its not like ZoS doesn't know or doesn't care. They have done many thing to try and address it and some fixes have helped to a point. The number one problem is players using the same zergball tactic. I have been in massive fights with no issue, second you get a dozen or more people stacked in an aoe spamming little ball it goes to hell. While it may be an issue with ZoS servers and they need to work on fixing it, player are more than half the problem. They know it causes lag, and they still do it.
  • Duiwel
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    Lag and Latency issues hinder game play and need to be further addressed by ZOS soon.
    Picked 3 because I can't really play I was just with one friend doing random Cyrodiil stuff like quests on an alt ect. & half the time I had a ping of 999+ impossible lag.

    She was also shocked to hear me say I won't be doing pvp for a while because she knows I am the big pvp-er among her friends. The thing is ever since TG hit, with the removal of 2 campaigns ( I don't care what you say Azura star does not exist anymore, the people there are less than 10% of who use to be there so it is technically removed ).

    The population has exploded in the remaining CP campaigns to such a level that I cannot play anymore. ( Massive influx of players who migrated from 2 campaigns but mainly from A.S.)

    It's funny because @ launch I was playing on the North American servers with better ping than I am now in European servers 2 years later.


    Not happy, sad to say but a month of these bugs has really put me off the game in a big way.

    I will still play, but I will play like 20% of the time I use to put into this game because of this, at least for a while ( to keep my sanity ).



    So I decided I am going to hit the gym again & do other stuff instead of just play ESO so in a way Zenimax did me a favour :mrgreen: ( always look on the bright side )
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  • EIGHTS
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    2 years passed. I don't believe ZOS can fix anything in PvP. Lag isn't the worst issue in PvP. The population unbalanced is the worst part of PvP. It's a basic game design problem.
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  • flguy147ub17_ESO
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    Literally trying to PVP right now and i cant do anything. I hit my charge like 10 times and it wont go off. This happens over and over. Also my main ability drains all my resources in DK Scales. I cant do anything in PVP literally, cant gap close and cant reflect without it draining all my resources. I have quested all week and thought i would give it another shot, Cyrodiil is the entire reason i want to play this game and i cant. Game is wreck right now.
  • Derra
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    EIGHTS wrote: »
    2 years passed. I don't believe ZOS can fix anything in PvP. Lag isn't the worst issue in PvP. The population unbalanced is the worst part of PvP. It's a basic game design problem.

    That´s not true imo.

    Population imbalance is only a thing bc there are too many campaigns open. On top of that the map is horribly designed encouraging two faction fights and effectively only enabling three faction encounters when one faction is pushed back to their homebase (IC top levels should always have been connected to cyrodiil with bridges to enable short travelroutes).
    Add the horrible scoring system 1st fights 2nd while 3rd fights 2nd too... (The scoring system should encourage for 2nd and third to fight first place in some way - i.e.: AP bonuses for killing members of the leading faction. Special quest for dethroning emp. One time score bonuses for taking keeps/resources of the leading faction etc pp)

    It´s not really faction imbalance but map design and game design decisions that make faction imbalance a problem in the first place.

    Lag on the other hand just makes people log off. I think it´s the worst problem the game has.
    Edited by Derra on April 13, 2016 7:14AM
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  • Horker
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
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  • EIGHTS
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    It was lag since 1.3 when I joined PvP. There were still lots of people played PvP every day.

    Crossing faction makes more unbalanced population problem. Population unbalanced makes more zerg. Zerg make more lag. VD set and FC make Zerg more worse than ever.

    So what's the problem? It's a game design problem.
    Edited by EIGHTS on April 13, 2016 7:32AM
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  • cazlonb16_ESO
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    Ra'Shtar wrote: »
    I'm 100% sure this does not need a poll because this a highly discussed hot topic and the biggest complain people have with the game.

    Considering the numbers actually taking part in PvP I very much doubt that.
    EIGHTS wrote: »
    2 years passed. I don't believe ZOS can fix anything in PvP. Lag isn't the worst issue in PvP. The population unbalanced is the worst part of PvP. It's a basic game design problem.

    There is little ZOS can do about the population unbalance. The majority of people active in Cyrodiil do not want a fair fight and that is hardly unique to ESO. On EU PC factions are neatly divided - AD zerg Azura's, DC zerg Ebony's, EP zerg Trueflame ( even more than they zerg everywhere else ).
  • Vaoh
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    No need to make a poll on this. You're a bit of a jerk for doing so though.

    "Hay guyz lag is bad I mak poll so u pic obvius choice n hate on zos more"

    They get enough hate in practically all of the other hundreds of threads regarding lag and latency issues. Another poll specifically for this is kinda lame tbh.
    Edited by Vaoh on April 13, 2016 7:33AM
  • Phinix1
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    Are you happy with the feeling of occasionally stubbing your toe?
    • Toe-stub pain is NOT an issue. I am a transcendental zen master and I simply realize the pain is and always was a part of me, and I accept this.
    • Toe-stub pain is a MINOR issue. Sure it hurts me, but it isn't like the bed frame reached up and kicked me in the mivonks. I try to keep things in perspective.
    • A stubbed toe is a major issue for me. Maybe I have a low threshold for pain but I am seriously unable to work or really function until the throbbing subsides. Someone really needs to find out who manufactures all these damned sharp-edged bed frames!
    • I stub my toe and immediately crumple into the fetal position. Sometimes I lose entire hours. I have no idea where I go, so long as it is away from the pain of toe stubbery.

    Of course no one is HAPPY with the lag. If I thought making a poll about it would lower my chances of stubbing my toe, or increase the speed at which ZOS manages a lasting solution, I guess I would probably post one.
  • TheHsN
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    AND really iam waiting Response from ZOS DEVS TEAM.....
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  • Cherryblossom
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    My option isn't on there.
    5: Lag and latency in PvP is a major issue and idiots on the forums have less of an idea of how to fix it than the Dev and they complain far more that is necessary.

    On a serious note: LAg and latency is a problem, but its not like ZoS doesn't know or doesn't care. They have done many thing to try and address it and some fixes have helped to a point. The number one problem is players using the same zergball tactic. I have been in massive fights with no issue, second you get a dozen or more people stacked in an aoe spamming little ball it goes to hell. While it may be an issue with ZoS servers and they need to work on fixing it, player are more than half the problem. They know it causes lag, and they still do it.

    Sadly you are plain wrong, I can remember at launch there being Zerg Balls with a lot more people in game and no lag. Don't forget they have steadily reduced the numbers in Cyrodil.
    So now there is less people and more lag!
    ZOS by now know exactly what the issue is, however they are unwilling to change the code to fix the issue. If you argue that they don't know you are saying they are incompetent, which I don't believe. I just believe they are unwilling to change the code to fix the issue.
    Edited by Cherryblossom on April 13, 2016 8:37AM
  • aubrey.baconb16_ESO
    Lag and Latency issues hinder game play and need to be further addressed by ZOS soon.
    Code was moved from client side to server side to prevent cheats interfering with the client side code.

    And before anyone points out that there are still cheats, yes but not as many as there would be with client side code.

    They can't move the code back without it being exploited so they can't unfix what was done. Instead they have to look at other methods of speeding up the server side code. These other fixes may never get them back to the response times available with client side code.
  • Mady
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    Lag and Latency are MINOR issues. ZOS seems to be working on things.
    Since No CP campaign it's better for me. Only on weekends it gets a little worse sometimes.
    Edited by Mady on April 13, 2016 9:02AM
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  • Phinix1
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    Might come down to a question of money.
    • How much will they lose in customers that want/need there to be some viable massive PVP as at launch.
    • How much will it cost them to engineer a solution with the current code setup. Is it even possible? Will the work-around armor set and ability gimmicks end up causing more problems than they solve?
    • How much would it cost to revert the code changes and instead hire an army of GM's to PERMANENTLY ban the account, payment method, forum account, and GENOME of ANYONE even REMOTELY affiliated with botting, griefing, exploiting, or cheating in any form.

    If ZOS had just accepted the hard-nosed, no-mercy ban hammer I suggested at launch they could have avoided this headache of constantly re-engineering a never-silver-bullet work-around and made a bit of money to boot on all the botters, exploiters, power levelers, and gold farmers re-buying accounts just to be permanently banned again within minutes, NO APPEAL. NO MERCY.

    Sadly, they didn't have the cheese for that.

    If I ever have a game company I can tell you, I will swing the ban hammer like the righteous mace of Thor.
    Edited by Phinix1 on April 13, 2016 9:11AM
  • Goldie
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    Ra'Shtar wrote: »
    I'm 100% sure this does not need a poll because this a highly discussed hot topic and the biggest complain people have with the game.

    I'm 100% sure that is only your opinion, and that getting a feel for how much of the community is actually unhappy with this, will help show ZOS what they might need to focus on, instead of making another new gear set to counter broken abilities, or rolling out new DLC before fixing issues that have existed for over two years now.
    Edited by Goldie on April 13, 2016 4:17PM
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  • Goldie
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    TheHsN wrote: »
    AND really iam waiting Response from ZOS DEVS TEAM.....

    Good luck with that! *Laughter rolls through the hills as a voice cries from the distance* "Dont hold your breath!"
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    Too little too late.

    I can't even find the PvP guild I wanted to join when I hit VR. I would wager a good chunk of the PvP players and guilds left. And ZOS doesn't care.
  • Goldie
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    My option isn't on there.
    5: Lag and latency in PvP is a major issue and idiots on the forums have less of an idea of how to fix it than the Dev and they complain far more that is necessary.

    On a serious note: LAg and latency is a problem, but its not like ZoS doesn't know or doesn't care. They have done many thing to try and address it and some fixes have helped to a point. The number one problem is players using the same zergball tactic. I have been in massive fights with no issue, second you get a dozen or more people stacked in an aoe spamming little ball it goes to hell. While it may be an issue with ZoS servers and they need to work on fixing it, player are more than half the problem. They know it causes lag, and they still do it.

    Sadly you are plain wrong, I can remember at launch there being Zerg Balls with a lot more people in game and no lag. Don't forget they have steadily reduced the numbers in Cyrodil.
    So now there is less people and more lag!
    ZOS by now know exactly what the issue is, however they are unwilling to change the code to fix the issue. If you argue that they don't know you are saying they are incompetent, which I don't believe. I just believe they are unwilling to change the code to fix the issue.

    There has never been an issue with lag in the NON VET PVP Campaigns. Never. The NON VET Camp runs as smooth as a babies... well... you get it im sure.
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  • notimetocare
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    My option isn't on there.
    5: Lag and latency in PvP is a major issue and idiots on the forums have less of an idea of how to fix it than the Dev and they complain far more that is necessary.

    On a serious note: LAg and latency is a problem, but its not like ZoS doesn't know or doesn't care. They have done many thing to try and address it and some fixes have helped to a point. The number one problem is players using the same zergball tactic. I have been in massive fights with no issue, second you get a dozen or more people stacked in an aoe spamming little ball it goes to hell. While it may be an issue with ZoS servers and they need to work on fixing it, player are more than half the problem. They know it causes lag, and they still do it.

    Sadly you are plain wrong, I can remember at launch there being Zerg Balls with a lot more people in game and no lag. Don't forget they have steadily reduced the numbers in Cyrodil.
    So now there is less people and more lag!
    ZOS by now know exactly what the issue is, however they are unwilling to change the code to fix the issue. If you argue that they don't know you are saying they are incompetent, which I don't believe. I just believe they are unwilling to change the code to fix the issue.

    I'd like to see your proof they know what the problem is and where to make the fix. There is no company that wants money that would just ignore a problem for this long when they know what is wrong and how to fix it. If you really think that you are ignorant to business.
    Being incompetent is not the only result of being unable to find and fix the problem. You also have to leave room for the fact they may not be allowed to change the core cause of the problem even if they do know where it is because of issues with keeping content secure, which could explain why they have yet to find other ways to fix it.
  • Ashtaris
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    I think your poll is pointless. ZOS is fully aware of the lag and gameplay issues in Cyrodiil and there have been dozen of threads to remind them. We don't need another :)
  • hoaxburnrwb17_ESO
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    Lag and Latency are NOT issues in PVP. ZOS is on top of things.
    Oh yeah very happy with the lag. after yesterdays patch I think the lag was the worst its been. out of synch, delays switching between my weapons. I even heard chipmunk voices! CHIPMUNKS!!!
  • Sallington
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    Ashtaris wrote: »
    I think your poll is pointless. ZOS is fully aware of the lag and gameplay issues in Cyrodiil and there have been dozen of threads to remind them. We don't need another :)

    I wouldn't mind every single thread on every single page be related to the server performance in Cyrodil. It's by far th emost broken aspect of the game, and has been for about 1.5 years
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  • Morimizo
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    This could be fixed so easily by just changing everyone's characters to stick figures that can only shoot square fireballs at each other in a Minecraft-graphic-inspired environment.
  • Katahdin
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    Lag and Latency issues hinder game play and need to be further addressed by ZOS soon.
    TheHsN wrote: »
    AND really iam waiting Response from ZOS DEVS TEAM.....

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  • Kwivur
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    They need to put the base game back to client side and figure out a different way to eliminate bots.
  • Goldie
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    Ashtaris wrote: »
    I think your poll is pointless. ZOS is fully aware of the lag and gameplay issues in Cyrodiil and there have been dozen of threads to remind them. We don't need another :)

    The poll is to gauge how many players/customers are being affected by this issue. To me it is one of the biggest issues that this game and dev team is facing, but how many are really unhappy about it? Well, now maybe we can get an idea. I appreciate your opinion about this poll, you do not have to participate or comment believe it or not!
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  • Miwerton
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    Lag and Latency issues are out of control. ZOS is in over their head, and has no idea how to fix it.
    Here is the one waiting for a fix from Zos
    imgur.com/2dvEXKS
    Edited by Miwerton on April 13, 2016 6:21PM
  • BlackEar
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    Lag and Latency are NOT issues in PVP. ZOS is on top of things.
    You are making your own poll worse by adding "ZOS is [insert level of involvement]". That needs a whole other poll if the question itself wasn't so redundant.
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