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Nerfing vet Maw of Lorkhaj already?

Alcast
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One of the mechanics seems to be nerfed according to the patch notes. Also, revealing tactics via patch notes seems kinda.....strange? and prolly not inteded.
On the other hand, good job on the trial and the fixes that have been made are really welcome :)@Seiffer
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  • LiquidSchwartz
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    Where are these netch poots
    I cant find these nerfs
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  • magnusthorek
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    Didn't see any nerf in MoL, on the contrary, one of the aspects of the fight got buffed. The rest were mostly small fixes
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    What's the issue, Alcast? All I see are some minor bug fixes.
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  • Alcast
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    The mechanic that got nerfed is probably not known to many so it might not appear like a nerf.
    Edited by Alcast on April 12, 2016 9:37PM
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  • Paulington
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    If we are reading the patch notes correctly, they have made a certain mechanic easier than it currently is. Just wondering why considering @ZOS_Finn and his team seemed to be of the opinion that this mechanic was supposed to be fixed, not made easier.
  • Autolycus
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    Alcast wrote: »
    You do not see the nerf because you do not know the mechanic.

    And I guess you're the only one who can see it eh?
    Edited by Autolycus on April 12, 2016 9:21PM
  • Alcast
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    Autolycus wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    You do not see the nerf because you do not know the mechanic.

    And I guess you're the only one who can see it eh?

    Kinda, as we are prolly the only one who knew how it works. Tho now several other guilds prolly also know because CPT Obvious in the patchnotes.
    Edited by Alcast on April 12, 2016 9:25PM
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  • Autolycus
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Autolycus wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    You do not see the nerf because you do not know the mechanic.

    And I guess you're the only one who can see it eh?

    Kinda, as we are prolly the only one who knew how it works. Tho now several other guilds prolly also know because CPT Obvious.

    As I suspected, you still believe you're the only ones in this game good enough to make it that far.
  • Alcast
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    Autolycus wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Autolycus wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    You do not see the nerf because you do not know the mechanic.

    And I guess you're the only one who can see it eh?

    Kinda, as we are prolly the only one who knew how it works. Tho now several other guilds prolly also know because CPT Obvious.

    As I suspected, you still believe you're the only ones in this game good enough to make it that far.

    Lol man, other guilds are close to beating it. We do not think that we are the only ones. Yet at this point we were the only ones who knew how the mechanic worked tho.
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  • Paulington
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    Autolycus wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Autolycus wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    You do not see the nerf because you do not know the mechanic.

    And I guess you're the only one who can see it eh?

    Kinda, as we are prolly the only one who knew how it works. Tho now several other guilds prolly also know because CPT Obvious.

    As I suspected, you still believe you're the only ones in this game good enough to make it that far.

    Actually, no. We actively encourage other guilds to enter the contest and go as far as helping them catch up. There are around five guilds at the moment including us that are on the last boss as far as we know and that's awesome. We enjoy competition! :smile:.

    However, we spent the time to figure out this mechanic and it's now being changed into a (seemingly) easier version and we're just curious as to why, especially as ZOS were of the opinion that it was bugged and needed fixing. We just want to know why. :smile:.
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    I can see where people are coming from; @Alcast even though I know what you're trying to say you're still coming off a tad bit condescending when it comes to your comment regarding mechanics.
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    I can see where people are coming from; @Alcast even though I know what you're trying to say you're still coming off a tad bit condescending when it comes to your comment regarding mechanics.

    Ye you are prolly right. I changed it a bit now...

    Edit: The mechanic that got nerfed is probably not known to many so it might not appear like a nerf.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Which patch note are you looking at specifically? The only one we had specifically for Vet Maw was a loot issue, and there were a number of them for Rakkhat for Normal and Vet.
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  • Alcast
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    Which patch note are you looking at specifically? The only one we had specifically for Vet Maw was a loot issue, and there were a number of them for Rakkhat for Normal and Vet.

    I will send you a Whisper Gina.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Which patch note are you looking at specifically? The only one we had specifically for Vet Maw was a loot issue, and there were a number of them for Rakkhat for Normal and Vet.

    Prob the Aprils fool patch notes about the nerf...... :wink:
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    Going to go out on a limb and guess he means:

    Silenced player characters will no longer receive the Celestial Purge synergy prompt. Now, only player characters with the Lunar Bastion buff are eligible to be granted the Celestial Purge synergy from Adara'hai.

    No offense to anyone but I can see this being a legitimate bug since when silenced you are unable to interact with other synergies. Don't think it's fair to claim that this is a nerf...
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    I'm more interested in the fact that you guys got HM rewards without having beaten it tbh ^^ Gz I would say, Zenimax is guilty for not testing their game.
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    Isn't the boss losing no resistance at all just a bug in the mechanic? Because that happens.
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    So they didnt actually nerf it they just gave away youre precious little secret. So you make a post about how its a nerf because ZOS didnt help you keep that secret from the other guilds. Congratulations on showing your community spirit guys.
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Isn't the boss losing no resistance at all just a bug in the mechanic? Because that happens.

    Trust me, the way it works right now is far more interesting than what it will be. And yeah I can see this as a nerf.
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    It's not really a secret, it's just something not so obvious. In the base game we have little opportunities to synergize a synergyzable synergy (lol) at same time of possibly being silenced.

    It's not a nerf to, maybe, hide the prompt (haven't checked yet) to indicate that we're silenced once there are no visual effects indicating so, like the purple dome or the blue circle on the floor (at least I didn't see any so far).

    Besides... Considering the number of bugs and problems in the game, it's too stressing to hit X several times and mor seeing anything happening.
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    YoloWizard wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Isn't the boss losing no resistance at all just a bug in the mechanic? Because that happens.

    Trust me, the way it works right now is far more interesting than what it will be. And yeah I can see this as a nerf.

    The only thing that changes is that you have more time for "action X" hardly interesting and hardly a nerf. Actually when observing the boss as he has his Void Armor buff one can see it flicker during "action X". There is no way the 1 second you have to make sure the boss doesn't become unkillable after a 10 minute fight is intended.
    So they didnt actually nerf it they just gave away youre precious little secret. So you make a post about how its a nerf because ZOS didnt help you keep that secret from the other guilds. Congratulations on showing your community spirit guys.

    Community spirit = giving tactics to people too lazy to find out themselves (probably wont clear the instance anyways)? Lol, silly.
    Edited by Woeler on April 13, 2016 1:40AM
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    Woeler wrote: »
    YoloWizard wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Isn't the boss losing no resistance at all just a bug in the mechanic? Because that happens.

    Trust me, the way it works right now is far more interesting than what it will be. And yeah I can see this as a nerf.

    The only thing that changes is that you have more time for "action X" hardly interesting and hardly a nerf. Actually when observing the boss as he has his Void Armor buff one can see it flicker during "action X". There is no way the 1 second you have to make sure the boss doesn't become unkillable after a 10 minute fight is intended. Inb4 "First pre-nerf maw kill".
    So they didnt actually nerf it they just gave away youre precious little secret. So you make a post about how its a nerf because ZOS didnt help you keep that secret from the other guilds. Congratulations on showing your community spirit guys.

    Community spirit = giving tactics to people too lazy to find out themselves (probably wont clear the instance anyways)? Lol, silly.

    LMAO. No ones asking for anyone to tell them anything. And calling people lazy...whos lazy? Honestly I doubt it was THAT much effort to take notice of a mechanic in the Trial. How pathetic to try and act as if someone did SO MUCH WORK there to do something anyone capable of being observant could of noticed.

    Calling someone out for their lack of community spirit has nothing to do with them NOT telling people the secret. But in fact the whiney wambulance self entitled attitude that they should be able to keep that secret from the rest of the community and cry about it to ZOS when they go in and do some changes. WAAHHHHHHHH we arent special snowflakes anymore!
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    Woeler wrote: »
    YoloWizard wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Isn't the boss losing no resistance at all just a bug in the mechanic? Because that happens.

    Trust me, the way it works right now is far more interesting than what it will be. And yeah I can see this as a nerf.

    The only thing that changes is that you have more time for "action X" hardly interesting and hardly a nerf. Actually when observing the boss as he has his Void Armor buff one can see it flicker during "action X". There is no way the 1 second you have to make sure the boss doesn't become unkillable after a 10 minute fight is intended. Inb4 "First pre-nerf maw kill".
    So they didnt actually nerf it they just gave away youre precious little secret. So you make a post about how its a nerf because ZOS didnt help you keep that secret from the other guilds. Congratulations on showing your community spirit guys.

    Community spirit = giving tactics to people too lazy to find out themselves (probably wont clear the instance anyways)? Lol, silly.

    LMAO. No ones asking for anyone to tell them anything. And calling people lazy...whos lazy? Honestly I doubt it was THAT much effort to take notice of a mechanic in the Trial. How pathetic to try and act as if someone did SO MUCH WORK there to do something anyone capable of being observant could of noticed.

    Calling someone out for their lack of community spirit has nothing to do with them NOT telling people the secret. But in fact the whiney wambulance self entitled attitude that they should be able to keep that secret from the rest of the community and cry about it to ZOS when they go in and do some changes. WAAHHHHHHHH we arent special snowflakes anymore!

    Please, don't try and school people on attitude when you yourself are trying to make a point using the vocabulary and linguistic skill of a mad twelve-year-old whose mother didn't buy him an ice cream. Mostly if you want to win an argument, you make your opponent look stupid, not yourself.

    It's rather laughable, and sad, mainly sad, but nonetheless entertaining.
    Edited by Woeler on April 13, 2016 1:54AM
  • Nifty2g
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    its a very obvious mechanic but they didn't go into details so why are you guys mad lol
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    YoloWizard wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
    Isn't the boss losing no resistance at all just a bug in the mechanic? Because that happens.

    Trust me, the way it works right now is far more interesting than what it will be. And yeah I can see this as a nerf.

    The only thing that changes is that you have more time for "action X" hardly interesting and hardly a nerf. Actually when observing the boss as he has his Void Armor buff one can see it flicker during "action X". There is no way the 1 second you have to make sure the boss doesn't become unkillable after a 10 minute fight is intended. Inb4 "First pre-nerf maw kill".
    So they didnt actually nerf it they just gave away youre precious little secret. So you make a post about how its a nerf because ZOS didnt help you keep that secret from the other guilds. Congratulations on showing your community spirit guys.

    Community spirit = giving tactics to people too lazy to find out themselves (probably wont clear the instance anyways)? Lol, silly.

    LMAO. No ones asking for anyone to tell them anything. And calling people lazy...whos lazy? Honestly I doubt it was THAT much effort to take notice of a mechanic in the Trial. How pathetic to try and act as if someone did SO MUCH WORK there to do something anyone capable of being observant could of noticed.

    Calling someone out for their lack of community spirit has nothing to do with them NOT telling people the secret. But in fact the whiney wambulance self entitled attitude that they should be able to keep that secret from the rest of the community and cry about it to ZOS when they go in and do some changes. WAAHHHHHHHH we arent special snowflakes anymore!

    Please, don't try and school people on attitude when you yourself are trying to make a point using the vocabulary and linguistic skill of a mad twelve-year-old whose mother didn't buy him an ice cream. Mostly if you want to win an argument, you make your opponent look stupid, not yourself.

    It's rather laughable, and sad, mainly sad, but nonetheless entertaining.

    So youre an expert on lingustics, vocabulary and the age of anyone using them? Thats interesting. Wanna guess my weight too?
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    Confirmed Alcast doesn't want any other guild to finish the trial.trollface_tiny.jpg
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    When Eric Wrobel revealed my secret Templar Build the Houseplar, I considered it a nerf as well.
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    its a very obvious mechanic but they didn't go into details so why are you guys mad lol

    Someone has to complain about pve...
    Can't just have everyone thinking it's all hunky-dorry
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