Asherons_Call wrote: »

I use the banker mostly for my daily crafting writs. You know that feeling when you have everything you need except a Ta and 3 nirnroot? I used to get so pissed but now just pop open the banker and withdraw!

I have to ask this tho....are you not in town already doing those writs?

They would have to knock a 0 off the price before I would even think of spending money on this. The idea is nice of course, but holy flipping cows that price.

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

The merchant doesn't even have a "sell all junk" option like normal merchants, or indeed sell basic pots or repair kits etc. She sells nothing. All you can do with her is literally sell your items one by one. I hope zos are open to buffing their functionality, cos right now the merchant isn't even a quality of life improvement.

The banker is more useful imo, but guild bank access would have been nice. I can sort of see why they didn't include guild store access though.

The fact that the merchant doesn't even offer a repair gear option is enough to turn me off purchasing it.

The banker is more meh. I tend to use the bank to dump crafting crap, so I'm always in town anyway making the banker less useful to me.

I won't comment on the price.....XD

Asherons_Call wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Ignotus wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

I use the banker mostly for my daily crafting writs. You know that feeling when you have everything you need except a Ta and 3 nirnroot? I used to get so pissed but now just pop open the banker and withdraw!

When you are crafting, you have access to all of the materials that are in your bank. You don't have to withdraw them into your inventory. This info is also displayed in loading screen tips.

He means something else - writs have as well some stuff, which is not used in the manufacturing process, but has to be delivered as items - typically a rune and 3 of a certain reagent - that is what he meant, and that has to be withdrawn before delivery.

right...but you're already in town so I'm trying to understand why 5k makes sense because at best, you're 30-45 seconds away from the bank unless you RP walk and don't use a mount (even with no upgrades) cause all Writs are in towns with banks only or have to be turned into places where its a town with a bank.

I had something like 18k crowns gathering dust so I figured why not. ( ESO plus for the past year plus I bought crowns when the 5500 package was only $24). And yea I was talking about the items that you must physically withdraw in order to turn in for the crafting writ.

It's also nice to be able to deposit mid-dungeon. Another thing that I like to do is go on node runs and with bank access I can theoretically go forever without ever going back to town.

I have not however bought the merchant assistant. Not being able to repair was the deal killer for me

hmmm interesting... when released I had 22k in crowns and the discounts applied as well so you value writ completion with the assistant as $25?

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Ignotus wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

I use the banker mostly for my daily crafting writs. You know that feeling when you have everything you need except a Ta and 3 nirnroot? I used to get so pissed but now just pop open the banker and withdraw!

When you are crafting, you have access to all of the materials that are in your bank. You don't have to withdraw them into your inventory. This info is also displayed in loading screen tips.

He means something else - writs have as well some stuff, which is not used in the manufacturing process, but has to be delivered as items - typically a rune and 3 of a certain reagent - that is what he meant, and that has to be withdrawn before delivery.

right...but you're already in town so I'm trying to understand why 5k makes sense because at best, you're 30-45 seconds away from the bank unless you RP walk and don't use a mount (even with no upgrades) cause all Writs are in towns with banks only or have to be turned into places where its a town with a bank.

I had something like 18k crowns gathering dust so I figured why not. ( ESO plus for the past year plus I bought crowns when the 5500 package was only $24). And yea I was talking about the items that you must physically withdraw in order to turn in for the crafting writ.

It's also nice to be able to deposit mid-dungeon. Another thing that I like to do is go on node runs and with bank access I can theoretically go forever without ever going back to town.

I have not however bought the merchant assistant. Not being able to repair was the deal killer for me

hmmm interesting... when released I had 22k in crowns and the discounts applied as well so you value writ completion with the assistant as $25?

Not just writ completion but all of the things I mentioned above. I don't even really think of it in terms of real money since I get so many of the free crowns every month.

But now that I'm thinking about it it looks like it breaks down to this. Since I only buy them when on sale ($24 for 5500) that puts it at around 230 crowns per dollar. Banker is 5k crowns or $21.80. If you don't buy crowns when they're on sale the price for the banker skyrockets to $36.

Both are very high so I understand why people aren't very happy about it, but personally I don't have anything else to spend the crowns on so in ok with it. I don't waste my crowns on purely cosmetic items. If it has an impact on my gameplay and making my precious little time I get actually playing and not running back and forth to a bank then I'm all for it. People tend to waste their crowns on unnecessary things like costumes and pets and mounts. It's more wisely spent on XP scrolls, mount upgrades, and assistants. (XP scrolls being the best item you can buy, by far.. Especially if you bought them on sale )


Edit: I just did the math on the XP scrolls. If you only buy crowns when they're on sale and only buy XP scrolls when they're on sale that comes out to .43 cents each! 43 cents for a 2 hour XP buff is pretty sweet. Good thing I bought 100! Lol

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Ignotus wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

I use the banker mostly for my daily crafting writs. You know that feeling when you have everything you need except a Ta and 3 nirnroot? I used to get so pissed but now just pop open the banker and withdraw!

When you are crafting, you have access to all of the materials that are in your bank. You don't have to withdraw them into your inventory. This info is also displayed in loading screen tips.

He means something else - writs have as well some stuff, which is not used in the manufacturing process, but has to be delivered as items - typically a rune and 3 of a certain reagent - that is what he meant, and that has to be withdrawn before delivery.

right...but you're already in town so I'm trying to understand why 5k makes sense because at best, you're 30-45 seconds away from the bank unless you RP walk and don't use a mount (even with no upgrades) cause all Writs are in towns with banks only or have to be turned into places where its a town with a bank.

I can't see someone who RPs so vigorously using these Assistants... ever.

Lysette wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Ignotus wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

I use the banker mostly for my daily crafting writs. You know that feeling when you have everything you need except a Ta and 3 nirnroot? I used to get so pissed but now just pop open the banker and withdraw!

When you are crafting, you have access to all of the materials that are in your bank. You don't have to withdraw them into your inventory. This info is also displayed in loading screen tips.

He means something else - writs have as well some stuff, which is not used in the manufacturing process, but has to be delivered as items - typically a rune and 3 of a certain reagent - that is what he meant, and that has to be withdrawn before delivery.

right...but you're already in town so I'm trying to understand why 5k makes sense because at best, you're 30-45 seconds away from the bank unless you RP walk and don't use a mount (even with no upgrades) cause all Writs are in towns with banks only or have to be turned into places where its a town with a bank.

I had something like 18k crowns gathering dust so I figured why not. ( ESO plus for the past year plus I bought crowns when the 5500 package was only $24). And yea I was talking about the items that you must physically withdraw in order to turn in for the crafting writ.

It's also nice to be able to deposit mid-dungeon. Another thing that I like to do is go on node runs and with bank access I can theoretically go forever without ever going back to town.

I have not however bought the merchant assistant. Not being able to repair was the deal killer for me

Well, I do not see why I would need a bank assistant for doing writs. I do it like that for example:

I pull off the 6 writs, look at enchanting (create the glyph), then I look at alchemy and create the potion - then I go to the bank and withdraw the rune and the 3 extra ingredients and the 2 meals/beverages (which I have plenty of pre-made and stored in the bank) - so now I have all what is required for the 3 non-gear writs - now I go and craft the gear and am ready to deliver all 6 writs - after I have done this, I go to the stable and train my mount, then I deconstruct those items I got from writ delivery and then back to bank and toss off those materials I got and deposit the money earned. I see no reason why I would need bank assistant, it is a routine I follow.

Good for you, now I have both the bank and the merchant all I do is pick up the writs, go to the crafting stations and then get what's needed for the 'extras' from my assistant, then I hand them in. It saves me around 3 minutes per alt.

The benefits of having the assistants outweighs the cost implications for me and for many others.

The one true currency in this game is Time, your Time.
If you can reduce the amount of time it takes to complete your goals, leveling or crafting for instance. It can be worth quite a lot, depending on how much time it can save you.

I have 6 active crafters that do 15 to 16 wits per day, seeking Kuta's, Repora's, Tempers, and Nirncrux.

While it may seem like the only time I save is travel back and forth from the bank, between inventory management and writ deliveries I save about an hour a day using the banker and the merchant.

For me, in my situation, the banker and the merchant have been well worth the cost.