Why @ZOS hates the players, or are we supposed to be hamsters!

hayaschwarz · April 2016

Weekly rewards, it is the time of the weekend of the great depression! Each week we all wait for our weekly rewards, and almost every week we get the similar crap, which is only useful to give you a chance on golden mats!
For the last week we farmed SO (as it was the weekly) for the new Sets, and I got the following amazing gear:

Bracers of Alkosh <---- The only usefull item!
Greatsword of Alkosh
Greatsword of Twilight Remedy
Battle Axe of the Lunar Bastion
Greatsword of Twilight Remedy

Also for the past weeks I also just got similar crap! Anyone who have a mind in their head wouldn't create Greatsword of Twilight Remedy in Defending, which makes me question the sanity of the developers and the People who runs this game!

On Top of that comes MoL itself! Everyone who is doing this new Trials knows for a fact, if you did the trial the past 7 days, you will not have any drop (rarely yes)! For the progression in this trial, you Need a dedicated group, and that group doesn't have much chance of changing characters, so doing the trial repetedly for progression isn't rewarding (for the past 6 days I didn't get any loot in VR MoL from the 2 Bosses and the 2 Events), as well many of the People I am raiding with!

And now the Question, can you @ZOS give us any logic for the drops, what is the purpose behind highend PvE Content if we are not supposed to get the gear from this content till the next highend gear is available? Is your Idea of playing a game is constant pointless grind? Why PvP Players get their gear sorted in less than 2 weeks, and we don't get anything worth our while!

srfrogg23 · April 2016

hayaschwarz wrote: »

Weekly rewards, it is the time of the weekend of the great depression! Each week we all wait for our weekly rewards, and almost every week we get the similar crap, which is only useful to give you a chance on golden mats!
For the last week we farmed SO (as it was the weekly) for the new Sets, and I got the following amazing gear:

Bracers of Alkosh <---- The only usefull item!
Greatsword of Alkosh
Greatsword of Twilight Remedy
Battle Axe of the Lunar Bastion
Greatsword of Twilight Remedy

Also for the past weeks I also just got similar crap! Anyone who have a mind in their head wouldn't create Greatsword of Twilight Remedy in Defending, which makes me question the sanity of the developers and the People who runs this game!

On Top of that comes MoL itself! Everyone who is doing this new Trials knows for a fact, if you did the trial the past 7 days, you will not have any drop (rarely yes)! For the progression in this trial, you Need a dedicated group, and that group doesn't have much chance of changing characters, so doing the trial repetedly for progression isn't rewarding (for the past 6 days I didn't get any loot in VR MoL from the 2 Bosses and the 2 Events), as well many of the People I am raiding with!

And now the Question, can you @ZOS give us any logic for the drops, what is the purpose behind highend PvE Content if we are not supposed to get the gear from this content till the next highend gear is available? Is your Idea of playing a game is constant pointless grind? Why PvP Players get their gear sorted in less than 2 weeks, and we don't get anything worth our while!

Just taking a guess at the rationale here, but I'm thinking it's so RNG based because it's not supposed to replace crafting and trading as the primary way of gearing up.

I don't think it makes the whole situation any less annoying, but it does help to keep the max level economy relevant.

hayaschwarz · April 2016

If we are supposed to finish the Content with the craftable gear, then I want the Trials to drop golden mats or pure Gold! Also in PvP you get your gear from PvP, why in PvE this shouldn't be the case? Besides nonetheless I am also questioning the reasons behind i.e. Bow of Twilight Remedy, which I got week ago, and a friend of mine got it today!

CasNation · April 2016

It's so that you run the content more, desperately trying to get a useful piece of gear, thereby extending the life of the content, because once you have your gear you stop running it and start whining about not having enough content.

EsoRecon · April 2016

my first time on vMA leaderboard.

=Sharpened Greatsword 0.o My luck

hayaschwarz · April 2016

The whole endeavor to progress or do any PvE content is pure waste of time, each evening I spend in vMoL costs me between 15-25k gold, and nothing in return, not even good loot! On the other hand, doing PvP gives me constantly rewards, also I need less potions and I don’t need to repair!

starlizard70ub17_ESO · April 2016

^ @hayaschwarz, The solution to your problem is simple, if running vMoL is not profittable, then stop running it. You can grow old and die waiting for the RNG to grant you favor.

Oompuh · April 2016

But my shield of the moondancer is so useful!

Please Zos, understand that people dont want the magicka damage set in a battle axe, the stamina damage set in a staff, and the tank set in a bow!

VMA was at least somewhat logical in traits, limited to 3... but these weekly rewards are useless

Valrien · April 2016

Oompuh wrote: »

But my shield of the moondancer is so useful!

Please Zos, understand that people dont want the magicka damage set in a battle axe, the stamina damage set in a staff, and the tank set in LIGHT!

VMA was at least somewhat logical in traits, limited to 3... but these weekly rewards are useless

I don't think you can get mixed weights for the sets.

Oompuh · April 2016

Valrien wrote: »

Oompuh wrote: »

But my shield of the moondancer is so useful!

Please Zos, understand that people dont want the magicka damage set in a battle axe, the stamina damage set in a staff, and the tank set in LIGHT!

VMA was at least somewhat logical in traits, limited to 3... but these weekly rewards are useless

I don't think you can get mixed weights for the sets.

*tank set in a bow. I assumed with the horrible weapon combiations that armor were the same way. Possibly not but still

WHY

hayaschwarz · April 2016

Valrien wrote: »

Oompuh wrote: »

But my shield of the moondancer is so useful!

Please Zos, understand that people dont want the magicka damage set in a battle axe, the stamina damage set in a staff, and the tank set in LIGHT!

VMA was at least somewhat logical in traits, limited to 3... but these weekly rewards are useless

I don't think you can get mixed weights for the sets.

But you still get stupid weapons for each build, and on top of that stupid traits! What would a Healer do with twilight remedy bow or 2H sword! And each of those stupid items and traits in the list for the Set is just reducing already a low drop Chance for the important items.

kojou · April 2016

I have decided to just do what is fun and not worry about drops... Julianos + Willpower is just fine and easy to get. If I one day get a set I might play with it, but the RNG is just too aggravating to grind for.

I did grind for SPC, but that is another story, and really soured my attitude for any further gear grinding.

stewhead2ub17_ESO · April 2016

They don't hate the players. Just you.

Valrien · April 2016

@hayaschwarz
While I understand your point, swords and greats words for magicka players aren't near as useless as staves in stamina builds considering many meta builds use dual swords.

That being said, I only have one item that I could use in the future from MoL and nothing I could use for my current character in his current role...the loot system sucks lol.

kfronckowiak · April 2016

lol ever see a bow of the healer? No why because the game was actually planned and fleshed out then.... The only Reasoning behind these items existing is to keep you grinding those useless trials.. Currently ps4 is stuck on Helra to AA loop so a majority of us are just gunna drop out of the game till that is fixed.

hayaschwarz · April 2016

Valrien wrote: »

@hayaschwarz
While I understand your point, swords and greats words for magicka players aren't near as useless as staves in stamina builds considering many meta builds use dual swords.

That being said, I only have one item that I could use in the future from MoL and nothing I could use for my current character in his current role...the loot system sucks lol.

I know that some builds might profit from specific weapons (ie. templar with moondancer/julianos/valkyn), but still as long we have the jewelry and the gear, the rest we can complete with other means.

kfronckowiak wrote: »

lol ever see a bow of the healer? No why because the game was actually planned and fleshed out then.... The only Reasoning behind these items existing is to keep you grinding those useless trials.. Currently ps4 is stuck on Helra to AA loop so a majority of us are just gunna drop out of the game till that is fixed.

This is exactly my Point, by the time I am done grinding some gear (ie. SPC or scathing), I am bored with the Content, and I don't want to Play anymore. Some people get frustrated even before, and just quit trying. I wish that @ZOS will consider that the players might enjoy the game more, and we stop losing players, if they give us what we want without an excessive grind