Do you think Radiant Destruction is OP?
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Yusuf✭✭✭✭✭I'm a TemplarMaxwellCrystal wrote: »@Yusuf
Genius I would've been able to dodge-roll an execute and it wouldn't have 1 shotted me a 10k plus my HP in cyrodiil is 21k RD hits 10.2k (Self heals is why the damage is 10.2k) if you look at it that way I'm at a 50% margin. The range is long + it can 1 shot you, yup that's balance alright. I'm only asking for this ability to be dodge-able as it should be.
@Destruent
Sorry what can a DK counter aside from the use of his wings (might I add that they're currently bugged)? Everyone looks at a DK and feel it's some immovable force of unpredictable nature that sustains so much incoming damage because of 1 passive that gives us resources back upon using an ultimate like serious get real.
A good sorc uses mage's wrath BEFORE you get into the execute-margin, that way you woul'dve simply exploded at 20% health.
No amount of dodging will purge a 4-second debuff.3 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
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No, the skill is fine as it is.
No, I need l2p5 -
Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MaxwellCrystal wrote: »@Yusuf
Genius I would've been able to dodge-roll an execute and it wouldn't have 1 shotted me a 10k plus my HP in cyrodiil is 21k RD hits 10.2k (Self heals is why the damage is 10.2k) if you look at it that way I'm at a 50% margin. The range is long + it can 1 shot you, yup that's balance alright. I'm only asking for this ability to be dodge-able as it should be.
As stated in another weeper thread;
0% channeled skills/attacks are dodgeable. Why would RD be?
Actually, i really wouldn't mind RD becoming an insta skill with the same tooltip as now minus the 3sec channel. At least it would open up for combos for all AC and Razer users.
The 40+ range is posible on what, 0,5-1% of all builds? And is the same for all 28m skills under those certain conditions.
RD can one shoot? You mean from full health or within execute range? I've never oneshot anyone at full health with RD. Under 50% it becomes a possibility, at 25% it's suppose to, it's an execute. Compared to a WB+Executioner combo it's blunt from full health.
The initial gap closer CCs me, if/while I try to break free the follow up WB knocks me back and empowers the next WB, followed by an Executioner. All in less than 2 seconds while a full RD attack takes 3 seconds (no AC or Razer can change that) and if you get heals during that time, even longer, if at all successful (block and/or Purge).
Many stamina builds freely refer to stam skills counters as, "anyone not using this is stupid", while doing the same (but opposite) when mag builds suggest you slot Purge, but I suppose Purge is as much the magic fix to stam builds as "just dodge out of it" is for mag builds.
RD is still blockable, but people don't do perma block builds now days do they, mostly the "extremely skilled" perma dodge everything builds (double tap any direction key), and now it doesn't work on a really good channeled skill, worse, a Templar Execution Skill even. GG.
Is RD OP?
1. No.
2. My win button is broken.
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Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes
Nope you cannot interrupt these skills with deep breath. And how do you expect to interrupt an instant cast skill as BoL?Because I can!0 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
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Nope you cannot interrupt these skills with deep breath. And how do you expect to interrupt an instant cast skill as BoL?
just try it. permabash a templar and you (nearly) completely disable him.Noobplar0 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭Yes
Nope you cannot interrupt these skills with deep breath. And how do you expect to interrupt an instant cast skill as BoL?
just try it. permabash a templar and you (nearly) completely disable him.
You aren't gonna kill anybody by bashing themXbox One [ NA ]
Gamertag - Zyzz II Legacy
Stam Sorc & Stam NB PvP
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
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I ever thought, good AoE-combos promote zerging, but it seems i've been wrong. single-target skills promote zerging. Maybe ZOS should make all skills do aoe-dmg
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Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MaxwellCrystal wrote: »Yeah because this is balanced
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/16437566
It is. You got Rekt. You are at half health, low stamina, completely on the defensive, your opponent has got a prox det about to blow up in your face and just got Dawnbreakered. The majority of these posts are ego-saving measures made by players in losing situations trying to convince themselves they would have survived and won if RD was removed from the game.
Maybe I'm kind of weird, but I would not post videos for public consumption where I got outplayed.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.4 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »MaxwellCrystal wrote: »Yeah because this is balanced
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/16437566
It is. You got Rekt. You are at half health, low stamina, completely on the defensive, your opponent has got a prox det about to blow up in your face and just got Dawnbreakered. The majority of these posts are ego-saving measures made by players in losing situations trying to convince themselves they would have survived and won if RD was removed from the game.
Maybe I'm kind of weird, but I would not post videos for public consumption where I got outplayed.
I would, but i would also ask for help and not cry about OP skills....Noobplar1 -
WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
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Nope you cannot interrupt these skills with deep breath. And how do you expect to interrupt an instant cast skill as BoL?
just try it. permabash a templar and you (nearly) completely disable him.
You aren't gonna kill anybody by bashing them
My Stam DK and NB say otherwise. Light attack, puncture, bash is absolutely lethal.PC EU2 -
Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes
You are wrong here too. Zerging is promoted by the bad AoE system. First thing are the caps, the second one is that there is smart healing but no smart dps.
I ever thought, good AoE-combos promote zerging, but it seems i've been wrong. single-target skills promote zerging. Maybe ZOS should make all skills do aoe-dmgBecause I can!0 -
WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
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Nope you cannot interrupt these skills with deep breath. And how do you expect to interrupt an instant cast skill as BoL?
just try it. permabash a templar and you (nearly) completely disable him.
You aren't gonna kill anybody by bashing them
My Stam DK and NB say otherwise. Light attack, puncture, bash is absolutely lethal.PC EU1 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭YesWillhelmBlack wrote: »
Nope you cannot interrupt these skills with deep breath. And how do you expect to interrupt an instant cast skill as BoL?
just try it. permabash a templar and you (nearly) completely disable him.
You aren't gonna kill anybody by bashing them
My Stam DK and NB say otherwise. Light attack, puncture, bash is absolutely lethal.
the comment I was referring to was talking about only spamming bash.Edited by EsoRecon on April 11, 2016 2:27PMXbox One [ NA ]
Gamertag - Zyzz II Legacy
Stam Sorc & Stam NB PvP
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SeptimusDova✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm a Templarlol rofl lol L2I. Try new anti templar Meta.My fellow Templars pointless garbage threads like this will continue. Go stamplar and stop healing anyone and everyone. Let them fend for themselves. Sorc/Zorks get ready to run a Pet Build in PVP.So many tears on this forum I need to buy a boat2 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
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In XvX I would rather have 4 Temps radiant spamming me than one NB proxtethering my group. I also prefer radiant spam over bombard spam.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)3 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »
Nope you cannot interrupt these skills with deep breath. And how do you expect to interrupt an instant cast skill as BoL?
just try it. permabash a templar and you (nearly) completely disable him.
You aren't gonna kill anybody by bashing them
My Stam DK and NB say otherwise. Light attack, puncture, bash is absolutely lethal.
the comment I was referring to was talking about only spamming bash.
I didn't say it kills the templar...but the templar will not be able to cast his most common and usefull skills. LA/skill/bash-builds absolutely destroy templars when performed correctly.Noobplar2 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭YesWillhelmBlack wrote: »
Nope you cannot interrupt these skills with deep breath. And how do you expect to interrupt an instant cast skill as BoL?
just try it. permabash a templar and you (nearly) completely disable him.
You aren't gonna kill anybody by bashing them
My Stam DK and NB say otherwise. Light attack, puncture, bash is absolutely lethal.
the comment I was referring to was talking about only spamming bash.
I didn't say it kills the templar...but the templar will not be able to cast his most common and usefull skills. LA/skill/bash-builds absolutely destroy templars when performed correctly.
sooooo if it doesn't kill them whats the point?Xbox One [ NA ]
Gamertag - Zyzz II Legacy
Stam Sorc & Stam NB PvP
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »
Nope you cannot interrupt these skills with deep breath. And how do you expect to interrupt an instant cast skill as BoL?
just try it. permabash a templar and you (nearly) completely disable him.
You aren't gonna kill anybody by bashing them
My Stam DK and NB say otherwise. Light attack, puncture, bash is absolutely lethal.
the comment I was referring to was talking about only spamming bash.
I didn't say it kills the templar...but the templar will not be able to cast his most common and usefull skills. LA/skill/bash-builds absolutely destroy templars when performed correctly.
sooooo if it doesn't kill them whats the point?
just look at the context and why i wrote it...Noobplar0 -
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✭✭I have yet to be killed by RD, and I'm not even that good. I see it being cast a lot but it's a minor inconveniance at best. Until I start seeing it on every recap, I think it's fine. And even then I would probably just suck it up and l2p. I could tell you what skills I do see on every line of my recap that probably need looked at, but I don't want to derail.1 -
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