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Do you think Radiant Destruction is OP?
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MaxwellCrystal wrote: »Yeah because this is balanced
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/16437566
yes it is balanced, you were at roughly 25% health. Mage's Wrath would've killed you the same way genius.
Executes, that kill people are not balanced (if they are a templar-skill)
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EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭Yesmyrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »MaxwellCrystal wrote: »@Alcast
Nah man I need that dodge-able I can't get 1 shotted at under 1 second by that ability, at-least with it being dodge-able I can dodge pump a self heal followed by igenous shield and be stable (if I'm quick enough). RD shouldn't be a go to spammable ability and should only be used when the requirements are met.
Don't dodge roll. Block and do the rest. You're a DK, you can survive this.
lol no you can'tXbox One [ NA ]
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EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭YesMaxwellCrystal wrote: »Yeah because this is balanced
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/16437566
yes it is balanced, you were at roughly 25% health. Mage's Wrath would've killed you the same way genius.
Wrong he could have dodged mage's wrathXbox One [ NA ]
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LorDrek✭✭✭Yesmyrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »Only in pvp, 1 skill full health dmg 19k in 4 sec, no dodge. Buged cp thamaturge.
Lol. I always live when people put up numbers with their OP statement. If 4.7k dps rekt you, you gonna get rekt anyway.
That's a little over 1 Wrecking blow worth of damage. A WB crit will blow that away.
Wb range 8m, rd 47m range lol, this is problem and buged roll-dodge0 -
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✭✭✭✭Dodge roll spamming 1vXers are mad.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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myrrrorb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »Only in pvp, 1 skill full health dmg 19k in 4 sec, no dodge. Buged cp thamaturge.
Lol. I always live when people put up numbers with their OP statement. If 4.7k dps rekt you, you gonna get rekt anyway.
That's a little over 1 Wrecking blow worth of damage. A WB crit will blow that away.
Wb range 8m, rd 47m range lol, this is problem and buged roll-dodge
Never got hit from stealth?0 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭Yestimidobserver wrote: »Dodge roll spamming 1vXers are mad.
Kinda but when I find these nab templars 1v1 alone in an alley (which I always do) I gut them.Xbox One [ NA ]
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MaxwellC✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes@Yusuf
Genius I would've been able to dodge-roll an execute and it wouldn't have 1 shotted me a 10k plus my HP in cyrodiil is 21k RD hits 10.2k (Self heals is why the damage is 10.2k) if you look at it that way I'm at a 50% margin. The range is long + it can 1 shot you, yup that's balance alright. I'm only asking for this ability to be dodge-able as it should be.
@Destruent
Sorry what can a DK counter aside from the use of his wings (might I add that they're currently bugged)? Everyone looks at a DK and feel it's some immovable force of unpredictable nature that sustains so much incoming damage because of 1 passive that gives us resources back upon using an ultimate like serious get real.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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Takes-No-Prisoner✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm a TemplarI have only died to this twice since TG dropped. But when I do see a Kamehameha beam thrown at me I press the
button and auto win the fight.
Sometimes I press the
button to make the Templar very angry! But then their anger subsides because at that point they are a cold lifeless body. It is so unfair I do that to them! How DARE I use my brain!
Edited by Takes-No-Prisoner on April 11, 2016 1:29PM5 -
LorDrek✭✭✭Yes
Use detection poution, any problemmyrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »Only in pvp, 1 skill full health dmg 19k in 4 sec, no dodge. Buged cp thamaturge.
Lol. I always live when people put up numbers with their OP statement. If 4.7k dps rekt you, you gonna get rekt anyway.
That's a little over 1 Wrecking blow worth of damage. A WB crit will blow that away.
Wb range 8m, rd 47m range lol, this is problem and buged roll-dodge
Never got hit from stealth?
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EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭YesTakes-No-Prisoner wrote: »I have only died to this twice since TG dropped. But when I do see a Kamehameha beam thrown at me I press the button and auto win the fight.
lol I can't... stop... laughingXbox One [ NA ]
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MaxwellCrystal wrote: »@Yusuf
Genius I would've been able to dodge-roll an execute and it wouldn't have 1 shotted me a 10k plus my HP in cyrodiil is 21k RD hits 10.2k (Self heals is why the damage is 10.2k) if you look at it that way I'm at a 50% margin. The range is long + it can 1 shot you, yup that's balance alright. I'm only asking for this ability to be dodge-able as it should be.
@Destruent
Sorry what can a DK counter aside from the use of his wings (might I add that they're currently bugged)? Everyone looks at a DK and feel it's some immovable force of unpredictable nature that sustains so much incoming damage because of 1 passive that gives us resources back upon using an ultimate like serious get real.
Wings counter:
- Destro Skills
- Dark Flare
- javelin
- Sun Fire
Deep Breath counters:
- Jabs
- dark Flare (when in meelee range)
- radiant (when in meelee range)
- BoL (when in meelee range)
- healing ritual (when in meelee range)
Skills not beeing countered:
- radiant (from range)
- spearshards
- toppling charge (counters itself sometimes
)
- Heals when in safe distance
So a templar can do:
- get in meelee-range and get interrupted while the DK heals itself
- stay at range and get his attacks reflected
- stay at range and use radiant (boring...)Edited by Destruent on April 11, 2016 1:29PMNoobplar1 -
WhiteTigre✭✭✭to the OP why do we not just nerf every class one good ability ?????
Sorcs have been nerfed
NB have been nerfed
Dk have been Nerfed
Templars have been nerfed
How much nerfing do you want ?
Just balance your gear or better your Skills IMO. or stay away from PVP if you cannot handle being blasted into smitherieen in less than a second. Not trying to be nasty but it seems more like emotional reaction this thread from the OP. Some players are good and some are better.1 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭YesWhiteTigre wrote: »to the OP why do we not just nerf every class one good ability ?????
Sorcs have been nerfed
NB have been nerfed
Dk have been Nerfed
Templars have been nerfed
How much nerfing do you want ?
Just balance your gear or better your Skills IMO. or stay away from PVP if you cannot handle being blasted into smitherieen in less than a second. Not trying to be nasty but it seems more like emotional reaction this thread from the OP. Some players are good and some are better.
sorcs have not been nerfed btwXbox One [ NA ]
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Takes-No-Prisoner✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm a Templar
lol I can't... stop... laughing
Calm down buddy, take some deep deep breaths so you can get some health back.
Fun and jokes aside though, I need to point out something. And I ain't even mad when I say this. But the last time I honestly died to Radiant was when I got combo'ed by Toppling + Magic Det + Sweeps then finished off with Radiant. The DC Templar suddenly appeared from off screen where I couldn't see her and she skillfully took me out. I had absolutely nothing to complain about because I was not paying any attention to where she was and it was my fault I died.It can and should be used just like that. And I hope she continues to beat face like that, because she did everything right to take me out.
Edited by Takes-No-Prisoner on April 11, 2016 1:38PM2 -
Ballzy321✭✭✭YesEver see Templar with vicious death spamming radiant. One button hero in a group. Such a joke move.0
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MaxwellCrystal wrote: »Yeah because this is balanced
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/16437566
Bruh..... you're fighting 1v1 and u let the Temp stay inside of his heals and circles and cast DPS, weapon swap and didn't stun or bash.
What did u expect.
Sorry its not that nerfs are needed cause if ur going against a sorc, DK or NB and u mimic those same actions...it will end in death of another spell.
U gotta mix it up and balance urself as this Templar is healing, DPS and stunning, etc. U HAVE to make the Templar class move out of his beneficial circles and any comfort zones.Edited by NewBlacksmurf on April 11, 2016 1:41PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
PS. I'm a templar but I won't take part is the biased poll. lolLone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord1 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »MaxwellCrystal wrote: »Yeah because this is balanced
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/16437566
Bruh..... you're fighting 1v1 and u let the Temp stay inside of his heals and circles and cast DPS, weapon swap and didn't stun or bash.
What did u expect.
Sorry its not that nerfs are needed cause if ur going against a sorc, DK or NB and u mimic those same actions...it will end in death of another spell.
U gotta mix it up and balance urself as this Templar is healing, DPS and stunning, etc. U HAVE to make the Templar class move out of his beneficial circles and any comfort zones.
Yep...he didn't even use CC on cooldown....and he is a Nb with the best CC ingame...so clearly a l2p-issue ^^Noobplar4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »
lol I can't... stop... laughing
Calm down buddy, take some deep deep breaths so you can get some health back.
Fun and jokes aside though, I need to point out something. And I ain't even mad when I say this. But the last time I honestly died to Radiant was when I got combo'ed by Toppling + Magic Det + Sweeps then finished off with Radiant. The DC Templar suddenly appeared from off screen where I couldn't see her and she skillfully took me out. I had absolutely nothing to complain about because I was not paying any attention to where she was and it was my fault I died.
This!!-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Inarre✭✭✭✭✭
✭the thing is balanced but the scale % isn't, needs to be inline with other executes especially since it's ranged and hard hitting
Zos has confirmed it is in line with other executes.MaxwellCrystal wrote: »@Yusuf
Genius I would've been able to dodge-roll an execute and it wouldn't have 1 shotted me a 10k plus my HP in cyrodiil is 21k RD hits 10.2k (Self heals is why the damage is 10.2k) if you look at it that way I'm at a 50% margin. The range is long + it can 1 shot you, yup that's balance alright. I'm only asking for this ability to be dodge-able as it should be.
@Destruent
Sorry what can a DK counter aside from the use of his wings (might I add that they're currently bugged)? Everyone looks at a DK and feel it's some immovable force of unpredictable nature that sustains so much incoming damage because of 1 passive that gives us resources back upon using an ultimate like serious get real.
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✭✭YesMaxwellCrystal wrote: »@Yusuf
Genius I would've been able to dodge-roll an execute and it wouldn't have 1 shotted me a 10k plus my HP in cyrodiil is 21k RD hits 10.2k (Self heals is why the damage is 10.2k) if you look at it that way I'm at a 50% margin. The range is long + it can 1 shot you, yup that's balance alright. I'm only asking for this ability to be dodge-able as it should be.
@Destruent
Sorry what can a DK counter aside from the use of his wings (might I add that they're currently bugged)? Everyone looks at a DK and feel it's some immovable force of unpredictable nature that sustains so much incoming damage because of 1 passive that gives us resources back upon using an ultimate like serious get real.
Wings counter:
- Destro Skills
- Dark Flare
- javelin
- Sun Fire
Deep Breath counters:
- Jabs
- dark Flare (when in meelee range)
- radiant (when in meelee range)
- BoL (when in meelee range)
- healing ritual (when in meelee range)
Skills not beeing countered:
- radiant (from range)
- spearshards
- toppling charge (counters itself sometimes )
- Heals when in safe distance
So a templar can do:
- get in meelee-range and get interrupted while the DK heals itself
- stay at range and get his attacks reflected
- stay at range and use radiant (boring...)
Please do not post when you do not know how the skills work. Deep breath cannot interrupt Jabs and BoL. BoL doesn't have cast time neither is channel.Because I can!0 -
Hazethemadman✭✭✭YesI wonder who the nerf community will target next.
I mean, its always got to be something. Until every single ability does the same damage and has the same exact effect something is going to be "unfair."
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WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I play Templar BTW as well as 2 NB and a Stam DK, I still haven't died 1v1 from RD. Died plenty of times to Mages Wrath and Burning Light passives though
and bash executioner and also Take Flight executioner.
As someone pointed out above, in that video, don't let a Templar get to full health when fighting them. That allows them to come out of defence mode and into dps mode. Apply pressure and constant CC. If you getting zerged with J beam spammers tagging along behind, well that's just tough ****. It could be any ability that kills you, Det, Torgaydo, who really cares? Makes some people cry though cos a 3 second channel whilst you're getting rekt can amount to 24K total damage, then they're like OMG J beam OP AF, not the 2 Meteors, Dets and Dawnbreaker you just took to your face and didn't show up on death recap.PC EU3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »I play Templar BTW as well as 2 NB and a Stam DK, I still haven't died 1v1 from RD. Died plenty of times to Mages Wrath and Burning Light passives though and bash executioner and also Take Flight executioner.
As someone pointed out above, in that video, don't let a Templar get to full health when fighting them. That allows them to come out of defence mode and into dps mode. Apply pressure and constant CC. If you getting zerged with J beam spammers tagging along behind, well that's just tough ****. It could be any ability that kills you, Det, Torgaydo, who really cares? Makes some people cry though cos a 3 second channel whilst you're getting rekt can amount to 24K total damage, then they're like OMG J beam OP AF, not the 2 Meteors, Dets and Dawnbreaker you just took to your face and didn't show up on death recap.
since you brought that up.....yep...basically the player needs to change up and learn some different strategies but overall I need ppl to realize, the game is not set for 1v1. Especially if anyone is using a cookie-cutter build because experience players know ur skills and abilities and will react accordingly.
Fun is fun....we all are gonna die and for periods of time, not be able to stop another player cause....the reality is this. Some players are better than us. Its not even skill always but just use and circumstance-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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