NA PC dead compare to EU PC

phairdon · April 2016

Non vet zones are still busy on NA/PC. Outside of new players or players running low level alts, veteran players could be in places like Wrothgar, Hew's Bane & Cyrodiil.

ElderBugOffline · April 2016

BlueViolet wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

We were discussing this last night, whilst raiding in IC and sewers and regularly running into large groups of opposing players.

The group I was in had several members who had transferred from NA to EU and what I found interesting was their reasoning. They pretty unanimously stated they had tried EU after becoming fed up with the lack of community feel on NA and had ended up staying because of how friendly they found the EU server population to be.

I love the EU server for this reason.
I find it much calmer, quieter and a lot friendlier when people do start chatting in zone. People seem far more willing to help. Compared to NA zone which, sadly, I've found to be horribly rude and abusive rather than anything else.

and this maybe true
when i writting some1 about invite to the trading guild on EU - i usually get a nice answer almost every time

on na most reaction is ignore
few days ago one guy calling me moron and start arguin he cannot invite me because we need be at the same side
even if i told him it doesna matter whe nwe using @name to invite
and when i try to ask him to use my @id he put me to ignore list

never happend same to me on EU server, tho

AzraelKrieg · April 2016

I think one of the other reasons why EU seems more active is that the overall population of the EU server is generally online at the same time because of the timezones whereas the NA server is populated by people in North America but also by people in Australia and New Zealand which causes a split in the population at certain times.

Saturn · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Saturn wrote: »

I don't know where you get your numbers from, but NA seems perfectly active to me. Sure, a lot of people left for consoles, but I've never thought to myself that there weren't enough people playing the game.

As for traders, you want to look at Rawl'ka for the most expensive ones, those usually go for a few million each week. Reason why Rawl'ka is the nr.1 spot on NA is because it used to be a farming spot for purple motifs.

I would say calling the PC NA megaserver dead is an enormous overstatement. Also, a lot of people are returning to the game as well as new players joining in. Had you called the game dead a year ago around the content drought then I might have agreed, but that's definitely not the case now.

Nah there are three reasons Rawlkha became the main hub.

1. AD vastly out populated the factions at launch (i recall a pie chart from may 2014 that showed fully 60 percent of the playerbase was AD). In fact to this day youll notice the majority of the trade guilds are still AD guilds as a result of this.

2. The town services are very tightly packed and convenient. In fact its the only town in all of AD land that doesnt have everything scattered to the four corners over logs roots trees and water to get to it.

3. Everyone and their mother went there for vamp and werewolf bite buying/selling for the first 3 months of the game. You had to go to Rawl to get one and pay huge prices because of demand.

I mean i suppose motif farming had something to do with it, but there were much much better grind spots than there (that town on the west side of the rift comes to mind)

Hm, yes that explains why AD goes there, but DC and EP also frequent the spot which is why the traders are so lucrative and I remember my first time there being because there were a lot of containers with a high chance of recipes and motifs.

SteveCampsOut · April 2016

Well I play both servers and have since about 3 months out of Beta when I started playing EU during NA Patch times. I too find the EU player base to be much friendlier and sociable. I do see how you could mistake the NA server for having a smaller population based on the PVP. EU still has Four 30 day PVP campaigns along with 1 non vet and 1 7 day campaign while NA has just 4 campaigns in total! You can't have a guest campaign in all three factions on either server but on EU you can have at least 2 factions with 2 campaigns.

However I will say, my NA guild that I run has more members than my EU guild of the same name. NA has around 480 and EU around 325ish. Don't know what that means at all...

ElderBugOffline · April 2016

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

However I will say, my NA guild that I run has more members than my EU guild of the same name. NA has around 480 and EU around 325ish. Don't know what that means at all...

it means nothing
because its not an online numbers

Joy_Division · April 2016

Callous2208 wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

ElderBugOffline wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

my trade guild has 400+ on at primetime. Hell, my RP hub guild has 200-400 on regularly.

screens plz?

At work and it's not primetime here anyway. Furthermore, why? Why do you require such evidence? What is your point in all this and what are you trying to prove?
Edit: I'm on pc, I have no clue what console numbers look like.

Because having 400+ active at the same time in a guild that has a max of 499 players is exactly the sort of highly improbable occurrence that requires evidence to make the claim credible.

Sorta like claiming Na Pc is dead cuz I don't see the people's, huh? On a side note, you must not be in any major trade guilds. Join up with one in Rawl'ka, Mournhold or Wayrest if you require this evidence. This thread serves no purpose and makes a bold claim with nothing to back it up. Why does the burden of proof fall to me then? Stop, I'll answer for you, it doesn't.

No. Other posters have opted not to use the OP's exaggerated title and anecdotal reasoning to argue his/her contention. You could have done this. Instead, you just posted a nonsensical lie. I'm not exactly sure why you think you do not have to provide evidence to disprove someone's claim, but that's not the way debate/discussions goes.

And the trade guilds in Wayrest are not the same level as those in Rawl.

Paulington · April 2016

freespirit wrote: »

We were discussing this last night, whilst raiding in IC and sewers and regularly running into large groups of opposing players.

The group I was in had several members who had transferred from NA to EU and what I found interesting was their reasoning. They pretty unanimously stated they had tried EU after becoming fed up with the lack of community feel on NA and had ended up staying because of how friendly they found the EU server population to be.

I've only played on EU so I cannot judge for myself but the one thing I can say is it is never hard to find people to group with on EU and of those people 95% end up becoming regular contacts.

I still don't know how to put people on my ignore list but would be very happy if I could use all those empty slots to increase the size of my friends list!

Having had a few NA friends come over to EU recently it is startling how many of them say the exact same thing. Groups are easier to find, people are generally friendlier and much happier to help. Some of them mention the diversity too as when they hop on TS they might find a German, a Pole or even a Finnish-Russian-Pakistani living in the Middle East. Diversity of people leads to an enjoyable game.

Honestly I am not entirely sure why some people say EU is better and I don't think it matters. The servers are different but as long as everyone is happy and enjoying the game we have a good thing going on.

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ElderBugOffline · April 2016

Callous2208 wrote: »

Sorta like claiming Na Pc is dead cuz I don't see the people's, huh? On a side note, you must not be in any major trade guilds. Join up with one in Rawl'ka, Mournhold or Wayrest if you require this evidence. This thread serves no purpose and makes a bold claim with nothing to back it up. Why does the burden of proof fall to me then? Stop, I'll answer for you, it doesn't.

@Callous2208 you arent read first post arent you?

i am in 15 trading guild on NA with 3 accounts

only one more or less top guild with closest numbers to a list of EU top prading guilds - its ETU
and only two good cities - Rawlkha and Mournhold
Orsinium was nice but last week two big trading guilds left Orsinium - Loot R Us and BBC2, because of very low profit

Wayrest? LOL
wayret its poor the same as Elden Root

at the same time on EU much more guilds better by online statistic than ETU on NA, and much more profitable cities - more crowded obviously

IrishGirlGamer · April 2016

I generally play EU when I get fed up with the annoying entitled players screaming at each other on NA. Or the ignorant political discussions in zone chat. Or the wow-my-stupid-sex-comments-are-the-funniest-thing-you've-ever-seen zone chats.

I find EU to generally be more polite and helpful. And sometimes I get to improve my Russian!

That said, NA is really hopping this morning.

Cadbury · April 2016

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

I generally play EU when I get fed up with the annoying entitled players screaming at each other on NA. Or the ignorant political discussions in zone chat. Or the wow-my-stupid-sex-comments-are-the-funniest-thing-you've-ever-seen zone chats.

I find EU to generally be more polite and helpful. And sometimes I get to improve my Russian!

That said, NA is really hopping this morning.

I find this pretty much true in most modern MMOs today. But, if a game has a JP server, they always win in terms of competitiveness, politeness, and camaraderie.

captainwolfos · April 2016

I've been playing EU for the past couple'a days in order to get at least one EU character to vet16, and I've noticed that there definitely seems to be more people in Cadwell's Gold and Silver zones on the EU server than on NA.

SanTii.92 · April 2016

I wouldn't say Na is dying whatsoever but it's true that Eu has a substantially larger population. I wonder why

Lexxypwns · April 2016

I thought it was generally accepted as fact that EU PC was the highest pop server. I don't know why people get upset at this, it doesn't mean other servers are dying. There's always going to be a server with the highest pop, it doesn't matter which and it doesn't mean the other servers are going to die.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · April 2016

Paulington wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

We were discussing this last night, whilst raiding in IC and sewers and regularly running into large groups of opposing players.

The group I was in had several members who had transferred from NA to EU and what I found interesting was their reasoning. They pretty unanimously stated they had tried EU after becoming fed up with the lack of community feel on NA and had ended up staying because of how friendly they found the EU server population to be.

I've only played on EU so I cannot judge for myself but the one thing I can say is it is never hard to find people to group with on EU and of those people 95% end up becoming regular contacts.

I still don't know how to put people on my ignore list but would be very happy if I could use all those empty slots to increase the size of my friends list!

Having had a few NA friends come over to EU recently it is startling how many of them say the exact same thing. Groups are easier to find, people are generally friendlier and much happier to help. Some of them mention the diversity too as when they hop on TS they might find a German, a Pole or even a Finnish-Russian-Pakistani living in the Middle East. Diversity of people leads to an enjoyable game.

Honestly I am not entirely sure why some people say EU is better and I don't think it matters. The servers are different but as long as everyone is happy and enjoying the game we have a good thing going on. .

I live in Europe myself but play on the NA server just because of so many different languages on the EU server. I've tried EU servers before on other games, but I always end up running to the NA ones as it's mostly english there that I can understand, lol.

DisgracefulMind · April 2016

ElderBugOffline wrote: »

i told EU has Craglord with 3-5 million bids and Rawlkha with 1-2 million bids

its top1 and top2

NA has Rawlkha with 3-4 million bids only from ETU, other rawl guilds bid alot less like 1-2 millions
ans Mournhold with 700k-1.5 million bids

OBVIOSLY on EU trading guilds has alot more ppl, and in general more tradingguild with bigger profits

Trade guilds seem pretty healthy imo.

NA is not dead.

Docmandu · April 2016

Rylana wrote: »

2. The town services are very tightly packed and convenient. In fact its the only town in all of AD land that doesnt have everything scattered to the four corners over logs roots trees and water to get to it.

AFAIK it's the ONLY town in the entire game with everything in close proximity. It's probably a design fluke, since they sure like to make you run around and waste time.

Artificially inflating content's play time.. Buy now! New DLC with 50 hours of content! (*)

(*) 20 hours spend running from A to B

ElderBugOffline · April 2016

Docmandu wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

2. The town services are very tightly packed and convenient. In fact its the only town in all of AD land that doesnt have everything scattered to the four corners over logs roots trees and water to get to it.

AFAIK it's the ONLY town in the entire game with everything in close proximity. It's probably a design fluke, since they sure like to make you run around and waste time.

Artificially inflating content's play time.. Buy now! New DLC with 50 hours of content! (*)

(*) 20 hours spend running from A to B

Betnikh has almost the same, just crafting stations abit far away from bank
but i wonder why its not so popular
because there is only 1 guild trader i suppose

Izay · April 2016

Most of the games I've played EU tends to have more servers so it's not that surprising tbh. That being said, that doesn't NA is dead or horrible, I come across plenty of players.