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The TRUE purpose of Assistants?

  • Lenikus
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    Guys.... guyz.... guize....

    Crowns are for bragging rights. pure and simple.
    Just go and throw Zeni all your disposable income, then you'll be one of the coolkids in town
    ... Mai cave. >:3
  • Volkodav
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    @Volkodav demonstrates my point perfectly...
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Plus,..the Hero costume only costs 2000 crowns,the assistants cost 5000 crowns.There is a whole lot of difference in pricing there.

    This is the important word here... ONLY. Did we say "The Nord Costume ONLY costs 2000 Crowns"? No... and THAT is the point I'm making. Will we at some point say the Assistants ONLY costs 5000 Crowns because something has come out that is 8000 Crowns?

    I was merely pointing out the difference in pricing since both items you compared in that manner.I do think that the price of the Hero costume was a bit over priced,but to compare it to the privee of the assistants doesnt work,as one thing does more than the other.
    I can understand what you mean though regarding the "ONLY" word.
  • Gidorick
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @Volkodav demonstrates my point perfectly...
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Plus,..the Hero costume only costs 2000 crowns,the assistants cost 5000 crowns.There is a whole lot of difference in pricing there.

    This is the important word here... ONLY. Did we say "The Nord Costume ONLY costs 2000 Crowns"? No... and THAT is the point I'm making. Will we at some point say the Assistants ONLY costs 5000 Crowns because something has come out that is 8000 Crowns?

    I was merely pointing out the difference in pricing since both items you compared in that manner.I do think that the price of the Hero costume was a bit over priced,but to compare it to the privee of the assistants doesnt work,as one thing does more than the other.
    I can understand what you mean though regarding the "ONLY" word.

    I agree that is an important distinction to make when discussing the value of an item. For me I have previously considered Crown items falling into 3 categories:

    1: DLC
    2: Consumables
    3: Cosmetics

    I was thinking of the Assistants being "pets" but they do more then pets so they aren't really a cosmetic... I guess there is a 4th category

    4: Utilities

    So perhaps comparing the value of any item in one category to an item in another category is quite literally like comparing apples to oranges.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • Volkodav
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @Volkodav demonstrates my point perfectly...
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Plus,..the Hero costume only costs 2000 crowns,the assistants cost 5000 crowns.There is a whole lot of difference in pricing there.

    This is the important word here... ONLY. Did we say "The Nord Costume ONLY costs 2000 Crowns"? No... and THAT is the point I'm making. Will we at some point say the Assistants ONLY costs 5000 Crowns because something has come out that is 8000 Crowns?

    I was merely pointing out the difference in pricing since both items you compared in that manner.I do think that the price of the Hero costume was a bit over priced,but to compare it to the privee of the assistants doesnt work,as one thing does more than the other.
    I can understand what you mean though regarding the "ONLY" word.

    I agree that is an important distinction to make when discussing the value of an item. For me I have previously considered Crown items falling into 3 categories:

    1: DLC
    2: Consumables
    3: Cosmetics

    I was thinking of the Assistants being "pets" but they do more then pets so they aren't really a cosmetic... I guess there is a 4th category

    4: Utilities

    So perhaps comparing the value of any item in one category to an item in another category is quite literally like comparing apples to oranges.

    Yeah,kinda like apples and oranges. Utilities are to me worth a lot more than anything that is cosmetic.However,these assistants arent really worth 5000 crowns at all.Since their abilities are quite limited.Personally,I would never even think of forking over that amount for anything the crown store could offer. Not unless they put the entirety of Vvardenfell as a DLC. Now,THAT would be worth me buying a ton of crowns for.Something I would go out of my way to buy.Just not a 5000 assistant who just buys stuff stuff,or one that lets you into your bank and nothing more.Those should be the 2000 crown items,not the costume.
    I'm just glad I didnt have to buy the fence/smuggler assistant.She doesnt let you launder anything,nor will she let you pat off your bounty.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @Volkodav demonstrates my point perfectly...
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Plus,..the Hero costume only costs 2000 crowns,the assistants cost 5000 crowns.There is a whole lot of difference in pricing there.

    This is the important word here... ONLY. Did we say "The Nord Costume ONLY costs 2000 Crowns"? No... and THAT is the point I'm making. Will we at some point say the Assistants ONLY costs 5000 Crowns because something has come out that is 8000 Crowns?

    I was merely pointing out the difference in pricing since both items you compared in that manner.I do think that the price of the Hero costume was a bit over priced,but to compare it to the privee of the assistants doesnt work,as one thing does more than the other.
    I can understand what you mean though regarding the "ONLY" word.

    I agree that is an important distinction to make when discussing the value of an item. For me I have previously considered Crown items falling into 3 categories:

    1: DLC
    2: Consumables
    3: Cosmetics

    I was thinking of the Assistants being "pets" but they do more then pets so they aren't really a cosmetic... I guess there is a 4th category

    4: Utilities

    So perhaps comparing the value of any item in one category to an item in another category is quite literally like comparing apples to oranges.
    Using "literally" with "like" makes the literally meaningless.

    I agree though. I buy DLC. I would consider buying utility items. I have no interest in cosmetics. I would only consider consumables if it was an emergency in group content and it would keep my group from suffering for my lack of preparation.
  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    if the merchant had the ability to FRACKING REPAIR my gear, it would be worth it

    grumble grumble grumble

    wasted my money
  • Volkodav
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @Volkodav demonstrates my point perfectly...
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Plus,..the Hero costume only costs 2000 crowns,the assistants cost 5000 crowns.There is a whole lot of difference in pricing there.

    This is the important word here... ONLY. Did we say "The Nord Costume ONLY costs 2000 Crowns"? No... and THAT is the point I'm making. Will we at some point say the Assistants ONLY costs 5000 Crowns because something has come out that is 8000 Crowns?

    I was merely pointing out the difference in pricing since both items you compared in that manner.I do think that the price of the Hero costume was a bit over priced,but to compare it to the privee of the assistants doesnt work,as one thing does more than the other.
    I can understand what you mean though regarding the "ONLY" word.

    I agree that is an important distinction to make when discussing the value of an item. For me I have previously considered Crown items falling into 3 categories:

    1: DLC
    2: Consumables
    3: Cosmetics

    I was thinking of the Assistants being "pets" but they do more then pets so they aren't really a cosmetic... I guess there is a 4th category

    4: Utilities

    So perhaps comparing the value of any item in one category to an item in another category is quite literally like comparing apples to oranges.
    Using "literally" with "like" makes the literally meaningless.

    I agree though. I buy DLC. I would consider buying utility items. I have no interest in cosmetics. I would only consider consumables if it was an emergency in group content and it would keep my group from suffering for my lack of preparation.

    No,...using "Literally" and "Like" in this instance is not meaningless.
    Literally here is meant as if you are saying "really" "like" as in "as if".So the sentence Gidorick is saying
    "It is as if you are really comparing apples to oranges."
    A perfectly fine way to put it.
  • Volkodav
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    if the merchant had the ability to FRACKING REPAIR my gear, it would be worth it

    grumble grumble grumble

    wasted my money

    You actually paid the 5000 crowns after all the groaning about them here,..without checking to see all it's functions first?
    Oh,ouch. I am soo sorry.
  • Thornen
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    Speak with your wallet cause Zos is clearly deaf dumb and blind when it comes to pricing complaints on their forum. It will be interesting to see how many more complaints turn up once ESO+ has the crowns removed from it.
  • Volkodav
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    Thornen wrote: »
    Speak with your wallet cause Zos is clearly deaf dumb and blind when it comes to pricing complaints on their forum. It will be interesting to see how many more complaints turn up once ESO+ has the crowns removed from it.

    Even if everyone here in the forums "spoke with their wallets",ZOS wouldnt care.They'll still make tons of money.We Forum members are a minority in ESO. Most of the people who play it never even come here.
    Oh,and ESO+ Will never have our crowns removed,as that is what entices people to pay monthly.That and we dont have to pay for every DLC that comes out.
    In actuality,I pay nothing for ESO. I give them $14.99,and they give it back to me in crowns every month.
    Edited by Volkodav on April 9, 2016 4:19AM
  • Gidorick
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @Volkodav demonstrates my point perfectly...
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Plus,..the Hero costume only costs 2000 crowns,the assistants cost 5000 crowns.There is a whole lot of difference in pricing there.

    This is the important word here... ONLY. Did we say "The Nord Costume ONLY costs 2000 Crowns"? No... and THAT is the point I'm making. Will we at some point say the Assistants ONLY costs 5000 Crowns because something has come out that is 8000 Crowns?

    I was merely pointing out the difference in pricing since both items you compared in that manner.I do think that the price of the Hero costume was a bit over priced,but to compare it to the privee of the assistants doesnt work,as one thing does more than the other.
    I can understand what you mean though regarding the "ONLY" word.

    I agree that is an important distinction to make when discussing the value of an item. For me I have previously considered Crown items falling into 3 categories:

    1: DLC
    2: Consumables
    3: Cosmetics

    I was thinking of the Assistants being "pets" but they do more then pets so they aren't really a cosmetic... I guess there is a 4th category

    4: Utilities

    So perhaps comparing the value of any item in one category to an item in another category is quite literally like comparing apples to oranges.
    Using "literally" with "like" makes the literally meaningless.

    I agree though. I buy DLC. I would consider buying utility items. I have no interest in cosmetics. I would only consider consumables if it was an emergency in group content and it would keep my group from suffering for my lack of preparation.

    No,...using "Literally" and "Like" in this instance is not meaningless.
    Literally here is meant as if you are saying "really" "like" as in "as if".So the sentence Gidorick is saying
    "It is as if you are really comparing apples to oranges."
    A perfectly fine way to put it.

    Either way... using "literally" and "like" together makes me read it with this attitude:
    taylor-hair-flip.gif
    Edited by Gidorick on April 9, 2016 4:20AM
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • Volkodav
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @Volkodav demonstrates my point perfectly...
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Plus,..the Hero costume only costs 2000 crowns,the assistants cost 5000 crowns.There is a whole lot of difference in pricing there.

    This is the important word here... ONLY. Did we say "The Nord Costume ONLY costs 2000 Crowns"? No... and THAT is the point I'm making. Will we at some point say the Assistants ONLY costs 5000 Crowns because something has come out that is 8000 Crowns?

    I was merely pointing out the difference in pricing since both items you compared in that manner.I do think that the price of the Hero costume was a bit over priced,but to compare it to the privee of the assistants doesnt work,as one thing does more than the other.
    I can understand what you mean though regarding the "ONLY" word.

    I agree that is an important distinction to make when discussing the value of an item. For me I have previously considered Crown items falling into 3 categories:

    1: DLC
    2: Consumables
    3: Cosmetics

    I was thinking of the Assistants being "pets" but they do more then pets so they aren't really a cosmetic... I guess there is a 4th category

    4: Utilities

    So perhaps comparing the value of any item in one category to an item in another category is quite literally like comparing apples to oranges.
    Using "literally" with "like" makes the literally meaningless.

    I agree though. I buy DLC. I would consider buying utility items. I have no interest in cosmetics. I would only consider consumables if it was an emergency in group content and it would keep my group from suffering for my lack of preparation.

    No,...using "Literally" and "Like" in this instance is not meaningless.
    Literally here is meant as if you are saying "really" "like" as in "as if".So the sentence Gidorick is saying
    "It is as if you are really comparing apples to oranges."
    A perfectly fine way to put it.

    Either way... using "literally" and "like" together makes me read it with this attitude:
    taylor-hair-flip.gif

    Well,it was YOU who said it,ya know. XD
    NOT ME! LOL!
    (Pssst,..I was defending you.)
    Edited by Volkodav on April 9, 2016 4:23AM
  • Gidorick
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Thornen wrote: »
    Speak with your wallet cause Zos is clearly deaf dumb and blind when it comes to pricing complaints on their forum. It will be interesting to see how many more complaints turn up once ESO+ has the crowns removed from it.

    Even if everyone here in the forums "spoke with their wallets",ZOS wouldnt care.They'll still make tons of money.We Forum members are a minority in ESO. Most of the people who play it never even come here.
    Oh,and ESO+ Will never have our crowns removed,as that is what entices people to pay monthly.That and we dont have to pay for every DLC that comes out.
    In actuality,I pay nothing for ESO. I give them $14.99,and they give it back to me in crowns every month.

    SO true @Volkodav ... when I "speak with my wallet" it's mostly for me... not ZOS. It's so I feel like I'm standing behind my own principals and setting standards for myself.

    I know whatever I say with my wallet is drowned out by throngs of hordes of masses of people who will just buy ANYTHING that is put up in the Crown Store.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • Gidorick
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @Volkodav demonstrates my point perfectly...
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Plus,..the Hero costume only costs 2000 crowns,the assistants cost 5000 crowns.There is a whole lot of difference in pricing there.

    This is the important word here... ONLY. Did we say "The Nord Costume ONLY costs 2000 Crowns"? No... and THAT is the point I'm making. Will we at some point say the Assistants ONLY costs 5000 Crowns because something has come out that is 8000 Crowns?

    I was merely pointing out the difference in pricing since both items you compared in that manner.I do think that the price of the Hero costume was a bit over priced,but to compare it to the privee of the assistants doesnt work,as one thing does more than the other.
    I can understand what you mean though regarding the "ONLY" word.

    I agree that is an important distinction to make when discussing the value of an item. For me I have previously considered Crown items falling into 3 categories:

    1: DLC
    2: Consumables
    3: Cosmetics

    I was thinking of the Assistants being "pets" but they do more then pets so they aren't really a cosmetic... I guess there is a 4th category

    4: Utilities

    So perhaps comparing the value of any item in one category to an item in another category is quite literally like comparing apples to oranges.
    Using "literally" with "like" makes the literally meaningless.

    I agree though. I buy DLC. I would consider buying utility items. I have no interest in cosmetics. I would only consider consumables if it was an emergency in group content and it would keep my group from suffering for my lack of preparation.

    No,...using "Literally" and "Like" in this instance is not meaningless.
    Literally here is meant as if you are saying "really" "like" as in "as if".So the sentence Gidorick is saying
    "It is as if you are really comparing apples to oranges."
    A perfectly fine way to put it.

    Either way... using "literally" and "like" together makes me read it with this attitude:
    taylor-hair-flip.gif

    Well,it was YOU who said it,ya know. XD
    NOT ME! LOL!
    (Pssst,..I was defending you.)

    LOL. I know man... and I appreciate it @Volkodav ... all those likes and literallys made me giggle. like... literally. :lol:
    Edited by Gidorick on April 9, 2016 4:25AM
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • Volkodav
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Thornen wrote: »
    Speak with your wallet cause Zos is clearly deaf dumb and blind when it comes to pricing complaints on their forum. It will be interesting to see how many more complaints turn up once ESO+ has the crowns removed from it.

    Even if everyone here in the forums "spoke with their wallets",ZOS wouldnt care.They'll still make tons of money.We Forum members are a minority in ESO. Most of the people who play it never even come here.
    Oh,and ESO+ Will never have our crowns removed,as that is what entices people to pay monthly.That and we dont have to pay for every DLC that comes out.
    In actuality,I pay nothing for ESO. I give them $14.99,and they give it back to me in crowns every month.

    SO true @Volkodav ... when I "speak with my wallet" it's mostly for me... not ZOS. It's so I feel like I'm standing behind my own principals and setting standards for myself.

    I know whatever I say with my wallet is drowned out by throngs of hordes of masses of people who will just buy ANYTHING that is put up in the Crown Store.

    Yup.They will buy it all,which is why ZOS put it there.They arent as stupid as people here whine they are. I havent bought everything,and have no plans to,..unless I like what is offered.However,I have no illusions as to my wallet being of any import to ZOS.
    Anyone who does has a puffed up sense of their own importance.
    I am but one tiny drop in the Sea of Life. Should you remove me,the Sea will continue.
  • Volkodav
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @Volkodav demonstrates my point perfectly...
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Plus,..the Hero costume only costs 2000 crowns,the assistants cost 5000 crowns.There is a whole lot of difference in pricing there.

    This is the important word here... ONLY. Did we say "The Nord Costume ONLY costs 2000 Crowns"? No... and THAT is the point I'm making. Will we at some point say the Assistants ONLY costs 5000 Crowns because something has come out that is 8000 Crowns?

    I was merely pointing out the difference in pricing since both items you compared in that manner.I do think that the price of the Hero costume was a bit over priced,but to compare it to the privee of the assistants doesnt work,as one thing does more than the other.
    I can understand what you mean though regarding the "ONLY" word.

    I agree that is an important distinction to make when discussing the value of an item. For me I have previously considered Crown items falling into 3 categories:

    1: DLC
    2: Consumables
    3: Cosmetics

    I was thinking of the Assistants being "pets" but they do more then pets so they aren't really a cosmetic... I guess there is a 4th category

    4: Utilities

    So perhaps comparing the value of any item in one category to an item in another category is quite literally like comparing apples to oranges.
    Using "literally" with "like" makes the literally meaningless.

    I agree though. I buy DLC. I would consider buying utility items. I have no interest in cosmetics. I would only consider consumables if it was an emergency in group content and it would keep my group from suffering for my lack of preparation.

    No,...using "Literally" and "Like" in this instance is not meaningless.
    Literally here is meant as if you are saying "really" "like" as in "as if".So the sentence Gidorick is saying
    "It is as if you are really comparing apples to oranges."
    A perfectly fine way to put it.

    Either way... using "literally" and "like" together makes me read it with this attitude:
    taylor-hair-flip.gif

    Well,it was YOU who said it,ya know. XD
    NOT ME! LOL!
    (Pssst,..I was defending you.)

    LOL. I know man... and I appreciate it @Volkodav ... all those likes and literallys made me giggle. like... literally. :lol:

    We could have added "totally" in there too.I almost did too. It would have fit. LOL!
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Madness1 wrote: »
    Yeah I know what you mean, it's one of the reasons why in some countries using fake currency is illegal. This is why companies like MS stopped using their old MS point systems to be on the safe side. The problem is as of right now the law hasn't quite caught up to digital products like MMOs completely yet.

    So no it's not just you, people are psychologically prone to spend more when they don't comprehend the price accurately. It's one of the reasons why tax is not added to price tags in the US, and why companies tend to use their fake currency systems (when and where they can get away with it). It's all to take advantage.

    I've always thought the fake currencies in mmo games (or cellphone games, facebook games, etc) would be a great way for criminal organizations to launder money. In fact, my gut tells me it already happens at the very least in the Asian markets. If I were in the Treasury Department (or possibly FBI) I would probably scrutinize these industries now and again for this very reason.
    Edited by dodgehopper_ESO on April 9, 2016 4:41AM
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
    <And plenty more>
  • Volkodav
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    Madness1 wrote: »
    Yeah I know what you mean, it's one of the reasons why in some countries using fake currency is illegal. This is why companies like MS stopped using their old MS point systems to be on the safe side. The problem is as of right now the law hasn't quite caught up to digital products like MMOs completely yet.

    So no it's not just you, people are psychologically prone to spend more when they don't comprehend the price accurately. It's one of the reasons why tax is not added to price tags in the US, and why companies tend to use their fake currency systems (when and where they can get away with it). It's all to take advantage.

    I've always thought the fake currencies in mmo games (or cellphone games, facebook games, etc) would be a great way for criminal organizations to launder money. In fact, my gut tells me it already happens at the very least in the Asian markets. If I were in the Treasury Department (or possibly FBI) I would probably scrutinize these industries now and again for this very reason.

    Careful,the Mods here do not like conspiracy theories.I got warned for it some time back.I cant say why,but it was jusr an innocent comment.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    I went to the Crown Store showcase (http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/03/30/crown-store-showcase--march-30th-2016) to get the name of the armor, which says "Elven Hero Armor". Does it say something different in-game? (not in a position to check myself)

    So you don't think the recent release of the 5K assistants had any impact on your willingness to soften your hard stance on costumes that cost more than 1K crowns @NewBlacksmurf ? What do you attribute to your willingness to pay double what you deemed to be an acceptable ceiling for costume cost?

    I'm 100% sure it had no impact.
    Why did I buy the new costume....well other than having 20k in crowns left over.....I thought it would look good when I previewed it but soon after, maybe 5 mins, I regretted the purchase

    But oh well I still have over 17k in crowns (I bought exp scrolls for the exp cake stacking)

    So an abundance of Crowns is the reason @NewBlacksmurf ... I would bet ZOS is pricing items to be Crown Sinks. So that those who are ESO+ subscribers think exactly like you are thinking. "Eh... I have a bunch of crowns... might as well."

    Interesting.

    No....don't skim read

    I was one of those who asked for the costume waaaaaay back.
    It finally came out so I'm like YyyEeeeSssss and I previewed it and was like....well it's aight.

    Then after I purchased....meh, shoulda passed.
    Having an abundance of crowns didn't make me upset about the purchase

    I didn't skim... I was using your previous statement. Perhaps I'm putting focusing too much on the phrase:
    I'm hard against costumes of any type for more than 1k crowns.

    I was taking that just wanting the costume isn't enough to make you go against your hard stance against costumes of any type being more than 1k crowns... or maybe it is. That's why I asked for clarification. If you have this list of costumes in your head that you're willing to pay more than 1k for then I wouldn't think you'd use the phrasing you used... a hard stance that has a list of exceptions isn't a hard stance. While desire was a contributing factor for you wanting the costume, I didn't think that was what convinced you to pay twice your ceiling.

    That's why the abundance of Crowns stood out to me as being the deciding factor.

    From what you said, though, I take it that you would have bought crown packs to buy the costume if your Crown purse was empty.

    And that's fine... like you said previously, we all have our own motivations for our purchases and we can't apply one person's reasoning to another. That's why I made this thread... to discuss these things. :wink:

    Like for me, the perceived cost of the costumes went down in, what I feel, a direct response to the 5K assistants. Previously my "wow... that's expensive" ceiling was 3000 Crowns... now it's 5000 crowns.

    I do admit that having over 5K crowns myself I have bought some things that I wouldn't have otherwise. Money burns when it's in pocket. :lol:
    Honestly to me I believe it's a business strategy to get rid of the excess crowns thus making players buy more when future content/crown store items come out. Remember we had that crowns half off day?

    This is an interesting thought. I wonder if ZOS ever looks at "Crown purse amounts" when they're pricing items. If there are a LOT of players sitting on a LOT of crowns, maybe they're willing to charge more.


    Hmmm makes sense how you read that.
    I should just say that for me buying crowns is.....buying crowns.
    I will spend $24.99 for 5500 or less only. I'll buy $50 worth and keep the crowns until I see something of value.

    So the price in crowns matters little as I often have at min of 10-20k in crowns.
    The value of the item matters as well as the quality and use.
    The assistants, and this new hero costume all have little value but I did really want it until I saw it on my outside of the preview.
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Madness1 wrote: »
    Yeah I know what you mean, it's one of the reasons why in some countries using fake currency is illegal. This is why companies like MS stopped using their old MS point systems to be on the safe side. The problem is as of right now the law hasn't quite caught up to digital products like MMOs completely yet.

    So no it's not just you, people are psychologically prone to spend more when they don't comprehend the price accurately. It's one of the reasons why tax is not added to price tags in the US, and why companies tend to use their fake currency systems (when and where they can get away with it). It's all to take advantage.

    I've always thought the fake currencies in mmo games (or cellphone games, facebook games, etc) would be a great way for criminal organizations to launder money. In fact, my gut tells me it already happens at the very least in the Asian markets. If I were in the Treasury Department (or possibly FBI) I would probably scrutinize these industries now and again for this very reason.

    Careful,the Mods here do not like conspiracy theories.I got warned for it some time back.I cant say why,but it was jusr an innocent comment.

    Its not a conspiracy theory. I don't think ESO would be a good game for this strategy, its too 'out there'. I do think a lot of those Korean grindfests on the other hand would be perfect for it (or facebook games).
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    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
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    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
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  • Volkodav
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Madness1 wrote: »
    Yeah I know what you mean, it's one of the reasons why in some countries using fake currency is illegal. This is why companies like MS stopped using their old MS point systems to be on the safe side. The problem is as of right now the law hasn't quite caught up to digital products like MMOs completely yet.

    So no it's not just you, people are psychologically prone to spend more when they don't comprehend the price accurately. It's one of the reasons why tax is not added to price tags in the US, and why companies tend to use their fake currency systems (when and where they can get away with it). It's all to take advantage.

    I've always thought the fake currencies in mmo games (or cellphone games, facebook games, etc) would be a great way for criminal organizations to launder money. In fact, my gut tells me it already happens at the very least in the Asian markets. If I were in the Treasury Department (or possibly FBI) I would probably scrutinize these industries now and again for this very reason.

    Careful,the Mods here do not like conspiracy theories.I got warned for it some time back.I cant say why,but it was jusr an innocent comment.

    Its not a conspiracy theory. I don't think ESO would be a good game for this strategy, its too 'out there'. I do think a lot of those Korean grindfests on the other hand would be perfect for it (or facebook games).

    No,I know you didnt mean it as one of those theories,just as I didnt either.I was just mentioning that some things here get taken out of context and misunderstood.
    Not by me,..
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Madness1 wrote: »
    Yeah I know what you mean, it's one of the reasons why in some countries using fake currency is illegal. This is why companies like MS stopped using their old MS point systems to be on the safe side. The problem is as of right now the law hasn't quite caught up to digital products like MMOs completely yet.

    So no it's not just you, people are psychologically prone to spend more when they don't comprehend the price accurately. It's one of the reasons why tax is not added to price tags in the US, and why companies tend to use their fake currency systems (when and where they can get away with it). It's all to take advantage.

    I've always thought the fake currencies in mmo games (or cellphone games, facebook games, etc) would be a great way for criminal organizations to launder money. In fact, my gut tells me it already happens at the very least in the Asian markets. If I were in the Treasury Department (or possibly FBI) I would probably scrutinize these industries now and again for this very reason.

    Careful,the Mods here do not like conspiracy theories.I got warned for it some time back.I cant say why,but it was jusr an innocent comment.

    Its not a conspiracy theory. I don't think ESO would be a good game for this strategy, its too 'out there'. I do think a lot of those Korean grindfests on the other hand would be perfect for it (or facebook games).

    No,I know you didnt mean it as one of those theories,just as I didnt either.I was just mentioning that some things here get taken out of context and misunderstood.
    Not by me,..

    I was just commenting on the main reason why I think some countries have abandoned it. Its just an obvious and easy way for such bad organizations to clean their ill gotten gains. Although I do think many games are pretty abusive as well in their pricing.
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
    <And plenty more>
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