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Death of the NA Haderus Campaign

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So for the past couple weeks in Haderus (PC NA), The lovely Dominion has been doing this to the campaign:

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Taking the map to get the scrolls is one thing, but to keep the other 2 factions at their gates is killing the campaign. No one wants to do pvp there because they can't do anything without being killed stepping out of their gates. This is beginning to look like Trueflame before the Thieves Guild update.
I'm not going to say their name, but the current emperor of Haderus keeps gate-pushing and will not let up. Y'all in AD are going to wonder where all the action went in Haderus...well just look at the map.
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  • Rylana
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    I seem to remember the EP there saying they didnt need us. Guess when we moved to Azuras two weeks ago things really went south for yall.

    Sorry bout that. Not really, i find it funny considering many of the other guilds there were pretty damn rude all the time.

    In fact I remember having an argument with one regarding EP gatecamping AD and DC three-four weeks ago, saying "we are bored what do you expect us to do?" Dont gatecamp yourselves. Hypocrisy is rampant in Haderus NA EP, seriously. Given the opportunity you do it just as bad.

    But please do have fun jockeying for leaderboard position while hamstringing the rest of the faction, with 4 guilds trying to make "their guy" the emp, and refusing to cooperate, this is the result. EP has always been the check and balance of AD on Had, and frankly, this was EP's failure, especially when one of the main guilds moved servers because we were sick of the lagfests and epeening/arguing in zone.
    Edited by Rylana on April 8, 2016 6:40PM
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  • HoloYoitsu
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    AD tends to do that to campaigns whenever they are able to. Been like that since launch. Hue.
  • HoloYoitsu
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    Rylana wrote: »
    I seem to remember the EP there saying they didnt need us. Guess when we moved to Azuras two weeks ago things really went south for yall.

    Sorry bout that. Not really, i find it funny considering many of the other guilds there were pretty damn rude all the time.
    If u think EP guilds are rude, you ain't seen DC /zone yet.
  • booksmcread
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    EP's doing the same thing to TF almost every night.
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    @wolfninja101b14_ESO honestly if you don't like it, do something about it. There are only 2 cp vet campaigns and 1 non-cp vet campaign right now. If the number of PvPers has dropped so low that they can't support 3 full vet campaigns anymore, maybe it's time to drop down to 1 or maybe 2 PvP campaigns now.
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  • Minnesinger
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    Unfortunately, it works the same way who ever is in the pole position. The day I started Hade all map was red. I feel sad for Hade. I try to pvp but we end up with the situation that there isn´t much action. Hope the map would be more balanced to create action. I just don´t think there will be much. Looks like the strongest faction takes the opportunity and claims the whole map.
    Edited by Minnesinger on April 8, 2016 6:47PM
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    If EP is doing that, I'll call em out on it. I'm not going stand idle if my own faction is ruining other campaigns.
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  • Rylana
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    @wolfninja101b14_ESO honestly if you don't like it, do something about it. There are only 2 cp vet campaigns and 1 non-cp vet campaign right now. If the number of PvPers has dropped so low that they can't support 3 full vet campaigns anymore, maybe it's time to drop down to 1 or maybe 2 PvP campaigns now.

    Jesus christ no, we need to add about three more. The lag on True and Had has reached nearly critical mass in primetime, with massive queues on the weekends.

    You kidding?
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  • Dreyloch
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    Rylana wrote: »
    @wolfninja101b14_ESO honestly if you don't like it, do something about it. There are only 2 cp vet campaigns and 1 non-cp vet campaign right now. If the number of PvPers has dropped so low that they can't support 3 full vet campaigns anymore, maybe it's time to drop down to 1 or maybe 2 PvP campaigns now.

    Jesus christ no, we need to add about three more. The lag on True and Had has reached nearly critical mass in primetime, with massive queues on the weekends.

    You kidding?

    It could be done if ZoS could fix the lag. But we all know how that's going =/
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    I'm surprised they got rid of Axe. People who were in there or in Azura's moved to Had or TF, which causes terrible lag.
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  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    Rylana wrote: »
    @wolfninja101b14_ESO honestly if you don't like it, do something about it. There are only 2 cp vet campaigns and 1 non-cp vet campaign right now. If the number of PvPers has dropped so low that they can't support 3 full vet campaigns anymore, maybe it's time to drop down to 1 or maybe 2 PvP campaigns now.

    Jesus christ no, we need to add about three more. The lag on True and Had has reached nearly critical mass in primetime, with massive queues on the weekends.

    You kidding?

    Actually I agree with you here, there should be 2 or 3 more campaigns to reduce lag, etc. And if 1 or 2 of those campaigns end up being PvE quest camaigns during the week days, so be it. At least you'll have some overflow campaigns for the weekends when things get really crowded on the 2 or 3 main ones, (ie. Had, TF, AZ). Problem was that when we had 5+ campaigns, "hardcore" PvPers whinned about the lack of action during the week and requested the numbers of campaigns be lowered. Now they complain about the unending lag and que times because of too few campaigns. You can't have it both ways. Personally I think the too many campaigns situtation is better then too few.
    As for the issue of one faction taking over each objective on a map and then gate camping,.... I've been playing for 2 years now, every faction takes there turn engaging this activity at one time or another. Learn to adapt and overcome, coordenate with your faction leaders and guildmates and go on the offensive instead of running to the next empty campaign.

    Edited by starlizard70ub17_ESO on April 8, 2016 7:05PM
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  • Rylana
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    Rylana wrote: »
    @wolfninja101b14_ESO honestly if you don't like it, do something about it. There are only 2 cp vet campaigns and 1 non-cp vet campaign right now. If the number of PvPers has dropped so low that they can't support 3 full vet campaigns anymore, maybe it's time to drop down to 1 or maybe 2 PvP campaigns now.

    Jesus christ no, we need to add about three more. The lag on True and Had has reached nearly critical mass in primetime, with massive queues on the weekends.

    You kidding?

    Actually I agree with you here, there should be 2 or 3 more campaigns to reduce lag, etc. And if 1 or 2 of those campaigns end up being PvE quest camaigns during the week days, so be it. At least you'll have some overflow campaigns for the weekends when things get really crowded on the 2 or 3 main ones, (ie. Had, TF, AZ). Problem was that when we had 5+ campaigns, "hardcore" PvPers whinned about the lack of action during the week and requested the numbers of campaigns be lowered. Now they complain about the unending lag and que times because of too few campaigns. You can't have it both ways. Personally I think the too many campaigns situtation is better then too few.
    As for the issue of one faction taking over each objective on a map and then gate camping,.... I've been playing for 2 years now, every faction takes there turn engaging this activity at one time or another. Learn to adapt and overcome, coordenate with your faction leaders and guildmates and go on the offensive instead of running to the next empty campaign.

    Correction: The multiraid stacking zerg guilds with 60+ people stacked in one place asked for this, because all their opponents left due to lag and went elsewhere. I can tell you flat out the competitive 8-20 man groups did NOT want us condensed further. God if I could get Chillrend back and just a couple competitive guilds in there from each faction id be elated. Its when the massive zergblobs show up and lag things out people move.

    Hell I feel for the smallman too, ive taken my zergdiver templar out for a few spins on trueflame this week and omg i cannot even use abilities half the time.

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  • Minalan
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    Switch campaigns. Let the night capping basement dwellers have their fun. Daytime TF usually takes all that back by prime time.

    I will say that it's usually AD doing this..
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    Opening more campaigns won't solve the problem because the factions will just the extras into PvE land and nobody will be able to find fights. Think back to when the game launched: there were 10(?) campaigns, but only one of them was competitive for the entire duration of the campaign cycle. As somebody else said in another thread, but the solution is for Zose to open campaigns that just last for the weekend to handle those peak population periods.
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  • Xexpo
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    So for the past couple weeks in Haderus (PC NA), The lovely Dominion has been doing this to the campaign:

    Screenshot_20160408_130348.png

    Taking the map to get the scrolls is one thing, but to keep the other 2 factions at their gates is killing the campaign. No one wants to do pvp there because they can't do anything without being killed stepping out of their gates. This is beginning to look like Trueflame before the Thieves Guild update.
    I'm not going to say their name, but the current emperor of Haderus keeps gate-pushing and will not let up. Y'all in AD are going to wonder where all the action went in Haderus...well just look at the map.

    funny part is they can only do it when everyone logs off... otherwise they get farmed
    they might be the worst bunch of bananas in the history of AD
    Edited by Xexpo on April 8, 2016 8:17PM
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Well they already own Azergas and no one plays on that cause well they own it and it's non-CP so that only leave Haderus and trueflame
  • Minnesinger
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    kaer426 wrote: »
    So for the past couple weeks in Haderus (PC NA), The lovely Dominion has been doing this to the campaign:

    Screenshot_20160408_130348.png

    Taking the map to get the scrolls is one thing, but to keep the other 2 factions at their gates is killing the campaign. No one wants to do pvp there because they can't do anything without being killed stepping out of their gates. This is beginning to look like Trueflame before the Thieves Guild update.
    I'm not going to say their name, but the current emperor of Haderus keeps gate-pushing and will not let up. Y'all in AD are going to wonder where all the action went in Haderus...well just look at the map.

    funny part is they can only do it when everyone logs off... otherwise they get farmed
    they might be the worst bunch of bananas in the history of AD

    I must say this AD is much better than what was a year ago when many of the top AD guilds went inactive. For example, I am used to none having siege or rezzing others but it happens now. I don´t know if you play AD but I wouldn´t call Hade AD the worst. If you think that taking the map shows AD weaknesses think about the AD who didn´t even defend their own keeps for weeks. DC and EP pretty much farmed AD who were disorganized in all but where Crown led.

    The map looks this when AD actually comes online. The off peak hours is the window when EP usually starts taking the keeps. For a small moment there is more EP than AD or DC. This way EP was succesful and they almost took Alessia. This happens daily. When there is more players online EP retreats. I don´t agree with taking all keeps but I disagree that nightcapping is something AD is solely doing. I think it is the best chance for EP to take something and they often run a raid then.

    Anyways, more competition would be welcome or I see many pvpers leaving the campaign when the cycle ends.
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  • GorraShatan
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    I play AD, and I moved from Trueflame to Haderus because TF had become an EP buff campaign. Not sure where I'll go now that Haderus has become an AD buff campaign. I'd like to just find somewhere with good action. Don't care if that action is at Bloodmayne or Farragut.
  • hammayolettuce
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    It's everyday since the first week of thieves guild launch on Haderus. First 2 weeks or so was EP doing this everyday and now it's AD doing it everyday. It's either bare through this lovely mess or deal with the lag on TF if you want to play with CP. how lovely this game has become.

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  • WuffyCerulei
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    Generally if people are consantly killed just trying to take a home resource, they're not going to want to play anymore. Just kills the spirit of pvp.
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  • tonemd
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    EP's doing the same thing to TF almost every night.

    This. If AD is doing this to Had and EP is doing this to TrueFlame, where is DC!



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    Noticed a lot of streamers, like Fengrush, have been playing Paragon lately.
    And that is a good question about DC. Where'd yall go??
    Edited by WuffyCerulei on April 8, 2016 9:05PM
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  • Lyar09
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    K-hole is still on Had. Only so much we can do with those with the numbers EP and AD have
    Edited by Lyar09 on April 8, 2016 9:07PM
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    Been trying to keep EP from bothering DC on there too much. AD's been the main pain in the rear there, if you couldn't tell already.
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  • hammayolettuce
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    Last i checked with an alt DC had less than 130 people homed on Haderus .. The population there is like nonexistent.
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  • booksmcread
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    If people really wanted to add another campaign, I liked the idea posted on the forums by @dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO a while back for a weekend only campaign.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2840669/
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    For some reason, there was an AD exodus from TF to Haderus this past week, the server is constantly pop-locked and primetime queues approach 70+. I don't think it has to do anything with specific guilds pushing gates, mostly just a ton of AD play on that server as opposed to playing on TF.

    Arcane has been on haderus for months now and around 2+ weeks ago, the campaign was dead in terms of AD, there were only a few guilds like us and Fantasia rolling, but now it seems to have become the most popular AD camp.
  • Lucky28
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    EP's doing the same thing to TF almost every night.

    no actually they're not. the map typically goes red in the day not the night as far as i know. i don't know where the DC and AD went. there used to be better PvP early day.
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  • Elong
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    Lucky28 wrote: »
    EP's doing the same thing to TF almost every night.

    no actually they're not. the map typically goes red in the day not the night as far as i know. i don't know where the DC and AD went. there used to be better PvP early day.

    At the same time EP need to seriously stop camping AD on Trueflame, they have no organised guilds on at the moment and are leaving in droves because of us. It'll be pvdoor by the end of the week.
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    I will never gate camp and will always call out players who do... but at the same time these AD gate camping might just be a little mad that they got gate camped by EP and are returning the favor. It sucks that honest players who don't do any of that got caught up in it but unfortunately some EP guilds kind of pissed on the electric fence on that one.

    On a side note... DC has that low of a population? Wow, maybe I should make a DC alt instead of an EP one.
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