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Daggerfall Cheaters

smokey13a
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hi,

I was just wondering if anything is being done about the cheaters, to be more specific today me and a group of reds worked our way across the top of the map and took the scroll of Ni-Mohk, then later a blue uses their red character to take the scroll and run it back and there was no way for us to stop him, I mean its ridiculous.
  • phillyboy7897
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    He must be hacking to make it that far w/o bluescreening. Next time bring 40 ppl next to him and spam aoe's that will make him crash and drop the scroooollllllll
  • Karamis_Vimardon
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    While it's considered foul play among players, ZOS has stated in the past this is an aspect of the game they won't get involved in. It happens on all factions, all platforms, and you just have to move on as it will continue to occur.
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  • smokey13a
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    so not only are the skill lines nerfed and I have to put up with all the t-bagging idiots that are all like "I just killed you and now I'm going to be a d@#! about it and t-bag you" but now I also now have to put up with cheaters as well, awesome:wink:, of course if ZOS don't want to get involved with such things it does make me wonder why they don't just ask one of their coders to take all of what 10 mins and add a game mechanic that kicks the player carrying the scroll.
  • Humphie
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    It is not really cheating. It is just being an as*hole!
  • ataggs
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    The best you can do is call it out on zone. There are some players who feel they are above playing the objectives for just one faction. Not much you can do.
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  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    It has happened since beta that I know and I have seen every faction do it. It is only going to be worse now that they have removed the faction restrictions on campaigns.
  • Rhandee235
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    Sorry to hear this occurred. It is pathetic, and I hope there weren't any organized DC guilds on at the time. You can't do much in this game about the instances where someone rips everyone off, just because they can.

    I put this behavior at the same level as a guildmate who empties the guild bank in the middle of the night.
  • DjSolJAH
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    Humphie wrote: »
    It is not really cheating. It is just being an as*hole!

    Um... It is definitely cheating
    Zee blues are coming!!!! Always.... Always coming...
  • eVuGOD
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    DjSolJAH wrote: »
    Humphie wrote: »
    It is not really cheating. It is just being an as*hole!

    Um... It is definitely cheating

    If ZOS allows it, it's not cheating. Just some scrub who can't get the scroll on his dc toon so he infiltrates on his alt.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    There really needs to be a place for public shaming of such people.
  • kevlarto_ESO
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    Yea that's the problem when you are able to have multiple factions in the same campaign, that should have never been part of the game, one faction one campaign, you want to play with your friends be in the same campaign, want to fight against them use your guest campaign, the willy nilly faction flopping in this game has made the whole three faction warfare a joke, and does as much harm to the game as the lag, nothing worse in my opinion than fighting along side some one and 15 minutes later they are on their other faction trying to kill you, there is no campaign pride or faction pride in this game, I really wish they had followed the DAOC model a little closer when it comes to pvp.

    If Camelot Unchained makes it to market, there will be no having multiple factions in the same campaign, it will be Three faction Warefare as it should be.
  • Humphie
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    Humphie wrote: »
    It is not really cheating. It is just being an as*hole!

    Um... It is definitely cheating
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    No, if ZOS allows it. No cheating. Sorry.
    Edited by Humphie on April 6, 2016 5:46PM
  • DHale
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    That is not considered cheating happens all the time on PC.
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  • Humphie
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    DHale wrote: »
    That is not considered cheating happens all the time on PC.

    That.

    Otherwise you consider it cheating too if I make potions for other factions they use on my faction? Cheating too? ;)
    (someone actually acused me of that being cheating ingame. Rofl)
  • Idinuse
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    Humphie wrote: »
    Humphie wrote: »
    It is not really cheating. It is just being an as*hole!



    No, if ZOS allows it. No cheating. Sorry.

    So if Zos allows, or does not address something that is against the ToS, it's not against the ToS? Just asking. How do you think Zos views this?

    The level of self-deception to justify cheats and or exploits in this game is amazing. ;)
    Edited by Idinuse on April 6, 2016 6:05PM
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  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    That's actually pretty clever.
  • tonemd
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    This falls ino the same camp as people logging in on an enemy faction toon and giving away movement and location information.

    It's unsportsmanlike but calling it cheating means you have actual defined rules that are being violated. Hacking code is cheating. Exploiting bad design even though ZOS has said it is unintended AND undesired is cheating. Everything else is allowed.

    Unless ZOS takes a stand, it's just a d*** move.
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    Happens on all servers and all platforms unfortunately. Nothing can be done that won't be even more egregiously abused.

    Maybe have your own counter spy, to switch and gank the traitor. I am a big fan of the lag them off the server though.
  • Humphie
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    Idinuse wrote: »
    Humphie wrote: »
    Humphie wrote: »
    It is not really cheating. It is just being an as*hole!



    No, if ZOS allows it. No cheating. Sorry.

    So if Zos allows, or does not address something that is against the ToS, it's not against the ToS? Just asking. How do you think Zos views this?

    The level of self-deception to justify cheats and or exploits in this game is amazing. ;)

    ZoS stated somewhere clearly that it is not against any rule regarding gameplay.
    My personal opinion? I think it is being a ***.
  • HoloYoitsu
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    Idinuse wrote: »
    Humphie wrote: »
    Humphie wrote: »
    It is not really cheating. It is just being an as*hole!



    No, if ZOS allows it. No cheating. Sorry.

    So if Zos allows, or does not address something that is against the ToS, it's not against the ToS? Just asking. How do you think Zos views this?

    The level of self-deception to justify cheats and or exploits in this game is amazing. ;)
    ZOS has a term for this, they call a grey area. :joy:
  • WillhelmBlack
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    Nerds with no life, why so bothered that you have to cheat like that? It's 1 scroll lol.
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  • Talcyndl
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    Submit a harassment ticket and claims the person called you mean names. That's about the only way to get someone banned. Extra credit if you whisper them and can goad them into actually calling you mean names. :)
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  • MercTheMage
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    While it may be annoying and a really dickish, it's not cheating I'd say. At least, not in the sense that it goes against ZOS' Ts&Cs.
    It fits well within the game's rules and limitations. There's no hacking so It's not an unfair advantage, red can do the same to the other factions. If anything, it adds to immersion. Spies infiltrating the opposition has been happening since the dawn of time.
    As they say, All's fair in love and war :wink:

    And I don't mean to offend, but red aren't exactly strangers to playing dirty. Zerg Zerg Zerg which is technically spam hahaha
    So getting upset over the other factions getting down and dirty for once isn't gonna help lol.

    And at the end of the day, it's just a game. Have fun, play with your friends. Don't lose sleep over something trivial lol
    You just going to stand there like a lemon?
  • EdmundTowers
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    I would like to have the option for factions to kill their own scroll runners. In fact, carrying scroll makes the runner no longer immune to friendly fire. Would make defending a runner more interesting, allow factions to kill traitors, and allow traitors to betray their faction in a more interesting way.
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  • zyk
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    Of course it's a form of cheating. It's pretty obvious. The only reason ZOS doesn't do anything about it is the same reason Cyrodiil hasn't been fixed: ZOS is unwilling to pay for it. The same goes for exploiters.

    If you do things like this, you're part of the reason this game is turning into a cesspool.
    Edited by zyk on April 7, 2016 4:38AM
  • Lord-Stien
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    Its been like this forever.....


    How long did it take us to yell about scroll temple exploiting ? 1.5 year
    s.... then it was fixed ...


    No its not cheating per say.. according to ZOS...

    But it is underhanded, and highly frowned upon..

    The only thing you can really do is harass said player so much that they quite the game....... and or they pull a nervana .. and end it forever....

    90% of all ESO guilds do not do crap like that .... its a code of honor....

    But then you have the 10% that just makes everyone else look bad . because ZOS allows then be be a worm in your apple..



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  • Van_0S
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    DC cheaters!!!

    Come to Trueflame EU, over there DC and AD always cheats that is EP as to fight with green alliance.... like always.
    Edit:
    The good thing about green alliance is that we (EP) can get a good fight and AP.
    Edited by Van_0S on April 7, 2016 5:34AM
  • xboxone1Q
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    Yep that's the price of being pact for life. Blue and yellow hates us. I see it all the time all you can do is call it out on zone. Have a group follow where he goes and take it back. I've done it before it's not fun to do but players that hate the pact makes alt just to do that. :/
  • _Chaos
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    Lord-Stien wrote: »
    and or they pull a nervana .. and end it forever....



    It was Courtney! The whole thing was staged!
    /tinfoilhat
    'Chaos
  • HeroOfNone
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    This is a tactic DC has been using for a while. We had similar incidents in the past where they tried to defend it saying others were cheating, it didn't really effect the campaign, and other BS.

    The thread eventually got closed for "naming and shaming", but honestly if this is a valid tactic now why couldn't we just list out the names? Did they do anything shameful? Or is it we're just ignoring the issue by saying it's a valid tactic.
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