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I Think It is Time for a 10hr Horse Training Timer!

Conquistador
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I think we're in the point of the game where 20 hour horse training is unfair to newer players. Yes, I know you have your crownstore books, but don't exhaust their money so rapidly.

Let's make the upgrades 10 hours in between "feeding" your horse now.
Edited by Conquistador on April 5, 2016 7:49PM
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Never understood why they put riding skills on sale just before experience week when they knew people would be making alts.
  • Runs
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    Unfair?

    By having to put in the same work everyone else did?


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  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Runs wrote: »
    Unfair?

    By having to put in the same work everyone else did?


    Ah the classic fools argument. "You can't have it easy because I didn't have it easy".
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Id rather just have options like the bag upgrade for horses....without a timer.

    Now I see that this would impact possible crown sales so the gold would.should work similar in bundles but.....no one that I've seen has even suggested a simple option such as a provisioning recipe...gold one that can be crafted @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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  • daemonios
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    Runs wrote: »
    Unfair?

    By having to put in the same work everyone else did?


    If that's what you think, then we should AT LEAST be able to purchase 20 riding lessons in each category for 47k (the price of the old pre-leveled horses), and we should be able to train each category once a day.

    The way it used to work is everybody I know would have a bags horse and a speed horse, sometimes also a stam horse. That way you only had to level 30 days (lvl 20 to 50) and you could level each horse separately.

    They changed it so that new players will start at zero and can only train one riding ability per day instead of 3 (albeit on different horses), so in reality new players have to put in 6x the effort (180 days vs. 30 days).
  • Reevster
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    Runs wrote: »
    Unfair?

    By having to put in the same work everyone else did?


    Ah the classic fools argument. "You can't have it easy because I didn't have it easy".

    Classic whiners argument. I don't want to put the time in like others had to, give it to me "now".
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Reevster wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    Unfair?

    By having to put in the same work everyone else did?


    Ah the classic fools argument. "You can't have it easy because I didn't have it easy".

    Classic whiners argument. I don't want to put the time in like others had to, give it to me "now".

    Well this is awkward since I have maxed 2 different chars just from daily upgrades
  • Conquistador
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    Runs wrote: »
    Unfair?

    By having to put in the same work everyone else did?


    Why you mad tho

    I have 2 max level mounts that took me since I bought the game last April. The process is primitive to date, but it's none of your business and I do not have to explain myself to you. Don't be so salty my boy.
  • Eshelmen
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    Hahahahahhaha noobs crack me up.

    Deal with it
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  • Conquistador
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    Eshelmen wrote: »
    Hahahahahhaha noobs crack me up.

    Deal with it

    but im richer than you in-game bro; why you mad tho?
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Eshelmen wrote: »
    Hahahahahhaha noobs crack me up.

    Deal with it

    LOL.
  • Ackwalan
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    Why stop there, just have sell a scroll that automatically upgrade you and your horse to max level. After all, it is only fair to people who just started.















    I also want a scroll that play the game for me.
  • waterfairy
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    I don't even understand the 20 hour mark as if someone will do more then 1 upgrade each day.

    I agree that 1 train per day is too long but I doubt they'll change it.
  • Nestor
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    Vigarr wrote: »
    I don't even understand the 20 hour mark as if someone will do more then 1 upgrade each day.

    Timer Creep. You see this with Hirelings. Log to your Alts one night to collect mails at 6PM, the next night you have to log at 6:05, then the next at 6:10 etc. No matter how hard you try to get the timing right, you end up gathering your mails later and later in the gaming session each night. If you have multiple Alts it gets even worse. Especially if you do writs with the hirelings, yes you can log twice to the alts for this, but that is a royal pain. Which is why we have been asking for a 20 hour timer on hirelings since Beta.




    Edited by Nestor on April 5, 2016 10:34PM
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  • ElliottXO
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    20 hours is fine as most people have jobs, but they could add more trains per day for additional gold.

    1st lesson 250 gold
    2nd lesson 500 gold
    3rd lesson 1000 gold

    Good gold sink as well if you are impatient. But I'm afraid it would compete with their cash shop lessons, so they'll never do it.
    Edited by ElliottXO on April 5, 2016 10:50PM
  • MasterSpatula
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Vigarr wrote: »
    I don't even understand the 20 hour mark as if someone will do more then 1 upgrade each day.

    Timer Creep. You see this with Hirelings. Log to your Alts one night to collect mails at 6PM, the next night you have to log at 6:05, then the next at 6:10 etc. No matter how hard you try to get the timing right, you end up gathering your mails later and later in the gaming session each night. If you have multiple Alts it gets even worse. Especially if you do writs with the hirelings, yes you can log twice to the alts for this, but that is a royal pain. Which is why we have been asking for a 20 hour timer on hirelings since Beta.




    See, I always thought that was the point of the 12-hour unlock. Unless you're unemployed, you're never going to be able to get hireling mails every 12 hours. But having them available every 12 hours is pretty convenient.
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    I think it is time for no timers!

    Lump sum payments for groups of 10-20% improvements.

    1% improvement or 1 Inventory upgrade every 20 hours is not fun nor rewarding.
  • Phinix1
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    Fair would be to have a way to instantly buy 10-day upgrade packages with gold the same way you can with Crowns.

    I guess they have to make their money somehow, though I won't buy them until they go on 50% sale again.

    Perhaps the option to buy for gold only if you are an ESO Plus member?
    Edited by Phinix1 on April 5, 2016 10:57PM
  • Curtdogg47
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    I just wish you could set the horse training on auto. Cause I forget to do this for days at a time. This post just reminded me that I forgot to do this last night before logging off!!!
  • Conquistador
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    I think it is time for no timers!

    Lump sum payments for groups of 10-20% improvements.

    1% improvement or 1 Inventory upgrade every 20 hours is not fun nor rewarding.

    I like that!
  • RebornV3x
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    yeah I agree its especially tedious for alts to level there horses
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Personally I feel like if you have the 40k Gold. You should be able to fully upgrade on the spot.
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  • Acrolas
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    It's like people don't understand what "training" is.
    It's small, incremental steps toward a larger goal.

    The system is arguably too fast. Basic trail horse training is about 60-90 days, and competitive training can take 1 to 5+ years.
    But nobody wants to train a game horse for 5 years, so 60 sessions per trait is a good compromise for the payoff.

    Just because you want to progress faster doesn't mean you can be a *** to your digital animal. Maybe learn to treat it with respect for all it does for you.
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    Reevster wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    Unfair?

    By having to put in the same work everyone else did?


    Ah the classic fools argument. "You can't have it easy because I didn't have it easy".

    Classic whiners argument. I don't want to put the time in like others had to, give it to me "now".

    It's like an older brother arguing with the younger. Forgive us for not doing things exactly when you did them. I think you forget if they made something easier for players now, it gets easier for YOU too, if you choose to partake.
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    Everyone calling logging in every 20 hours putting in work needs to get out of their moms basement and go get a real job.

    This forums definition of work is pathetic.
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    It's like people don't understand what "training" is.
    It's small, incremental steps toward a larger goal.

    The system is arguably too fast. Basic trail horse training is about 60-90 days, and competitive training can take 1 to 5+ years.
    But nobody wants to train a game horse for 5 years, so 60 sessions per trait is a good compromise for the payoff.

    Just because you want to progress faster doesn't mean you can be a *** to your digital animal. Maybe learn to treat it with respect for all it does for you.

    but i can wield a weapon as a master and goldy magical powers in under a week?
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    It's like people don't understand what "training" is.
    It's small, incremental steps toward a larger goal.

    The system is arguably too fast. Basic trail horse training is about 60-90 days, and competitive training can take 1 to 5+ years.
    But nobody wants to train a game horse for 5 years, so 60 sessions per trait is a good compromise for the payoff.

    Just because you want to progress faster doesn't mean you can be a *** to your digital animal. Maybe learn to treat it with respect for all it does for you.

    Did you just tell me to respect my digital animal?
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    Reevster wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    Unfair?

    By having to put in the same work everyone else did?


    Ah the classic fools argument. "You can't have it easy because I didn't have it easy".

    Classic whiners argument. I don't want to put the time in like others had to, give it to me "now".

    Time?

    Go to stables > Press "+" sign on appropriate resource > leave. Repeat 24 hours later.

    Not very much effort involved. Its just extremely tedious thats all.
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  • DaveMoeDee
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    Vigarr wrote: »
    I don't even understand the 20 hour mark as if someone will do more then 1 upgrade each day.

    I agree that 1 train per day is too long but I doubt they'll change it.

    The 20 hour mark is to allow you to do 1 a day. If you make it exactly 24, you end up later and later each day until you end up missing one day.
  • a1x23
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    Curtdogg47 wrote: »
    I just wish you could set the horse training on auto. Cause I forget to do this for days at a time. This post just reminded me that I forgot to do this last night before logging off!!!

    This right here. They could make it similar to hirelings, you have to log on everyday to get it.
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